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Solar Pannel and LiOn or Lipo

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  • epierreE Offline
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    epierre
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    wrote on last edited by epierre
    #36

    @ceech do you mean on SW or HW side ?

    HW:

    • I cannot plug the standard radio in one, only amplified works with it
    • same solar pannel 1W
    • different batteries, one is LiPo, the other is LiOn, but same behavior on delay/sleep seen on both
    • same lux sensor

    SW: they run the same software

    any idea ?

    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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    • epierreE epierre

      @ceech do you mean on SW or HW side ?

      HW:

      • I cannot plug the standard radio in one, only amplified works with it
      • same solar pannel 1W
      • different batteries, one is LiPo, the other is LiOn, but same behavior on delay/sleep seen on both
      • same lux sensor

      SW: they run the same software

      any idea ?

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      ceech
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #37

      @epierre Not enough power for the amplified radio, probably. Try adding bigger capacitor. In the hundreds of uF region.

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        epierre
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        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        @ceech are the radio 3.3V or not ? why should I need a capacitor and between what parts ?

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • epierreE epierre

          @ceech are the radio 3.3V or not ? why should I need a capacitor and between what parts ?

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          AWI
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          wrote on last edited by
          #39

          @epierre I quess what @ceech meant is that the on board power supply is not equiped to power the amplified radio. I you put a large capacitor on the power lines (near to the radio) it will handle the power better.

          I am still confused as to the problem you are having with the delay. I am able to reproduce your > 30second problem and it is driving me nuts. When I execute the 'original' sketch (including MySensors) it is working fine with gw.sleep() and times longer than 30 secs.

          i will do some additional measurements...

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            wrote on last edited by
            #40

            @AWI @ceech I have tried this:
            -I have removed the mysensor debug mode on the sensor

            • I have removed the 4 x gw.send in the sendVoltage

            For a sleep time of 31-32 this is fine , start to fail at 33...

            Batt: 4.07V ; 0.00A 
            Solar: 0.84V ; 0.00 A; charge: No
            BattPct: 81% 
            
            

            @AWI the one with amplified has a 4000mAh Lipo and the radio is perfect. Anyway simple radio does not work with it.

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              epierre
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              @AWII @ceech any advancement on this ?

              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              • epierreE epierre

                @AWII @ceech any advancement on this ?

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                ceech
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                #42

                @epierre Nope, sorry.

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                  epierre
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                  wrote on last edited by epierre
                  #43

                  @ceech I've ordered the wrong boards so without the solar panel... what should I do to complete the missing here ?

                  rq: your page https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ceech is not present anymore in hardware @hek an error ?

                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                    #44

                    I asked @ceech to add it to the openhardware.io site instead. Guess he hasn't had time to do it yet.

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                    • epierreE epierre

                      @ceech I've ordered the wrong boards so without the solar panel... what should I do to complete the missing here ?

                      rq: your page https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/ceech is not present anymore in hardware @hek an error ?

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                      @epierre said:

                      @ceech I've ordered the wrong boards so without the solar panel... what should I do to complete the missing here ?

                      @ceech would adding these on the either ext or batt do the trick enough ?
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-5V-1A-USB-18650-Lithium-Battery-Charging-Board-Charger-Module-Protection/221533778016?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D3aab1c92f1544168b6c5a3033e5d60fc%26pid%3D100085%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D300376371464%26clkid%3D3316748233453320960&_qi=RTM2247626

                      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        #46

                        @ceech should I put the power on Vin / Gnd as I guess ?

                        I have started graphing the solar / lipo one here:
                        https://thingspeak.com/channels/89944

                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        • epierreE epierre

                          @ceech should I put the power on Vin / Gnd as I guess ?

                          I have started graphing the solar / lipo one here:
                          https://thingspeak.com/channels/89944

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                          @epierre Yes, Vin is the right choice. Nice graphs :)

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                            wrote on last edited by epierre
                            #48

                            @ceech actually the Particle Photon is doing less well than yours: https://thingspeak.com/channels/88622

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #49

                              Hello guys,

                              @ceech

                              I have a load of the 18650 charging boards with the protection circuit (from Aliexpress). I also have a few 18650 batteries and solar panels hanging around.... Can I use the code above to get readings (batt, solar, charge, pct) or do I need something else?

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                                #50

                                The code above is for dedicated boards with on-board charger IC. Like the one from the following page:
                                http://www.ebay.com/itm/331838940273?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

                                This board uses LTC4079 and has voltage dividers on battery and solar cell connectors. They allow for voltage readings. Current is measured on one of the LTC4079 pins.

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                                  #51

                                  HI @ceech

                                  The boards look great, sadly I have a ton of spares around I need to use first. I wondered if the code could be adopted, or if there was perhaps a way to get the readings off the solar input and battery using the 18650 charge module alone...

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                                    wrote on last edited by ceech
                                    #52

                                    Of course you can. Use voltage dividers to scale down voltages that you would like to measure if they are above your VCC. And you can also read the current from TP4056 charger board. Tap to Prog pin (pin 2) and measure its voltage. Here is the correlation between voltage and current:
                                    Ibat = (Vprog /Rprog) x 1200
                                    Adapt the above code with your hardware values, current formula and measure away.

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