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Low Power Temperature Sensor

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    ericvdb
    wrote on last edited by ericvdb
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    My 2xAA Nimh or 1 x 18650 Li-Ion battery sensors use a DC-DC boost converter to crank up the voltage to 5V, then with a LDO MCP1702 i step down to 3.3V to power the arduino pro mini, the nRF24L01+ and the DS18B20. First test results show me that over 2 weeks my battery voltage went down with 4%, that should give me theoretically +/- 8 months without charging the batteries.

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8pcs-Very-small-DC-DC-0-9-5V-to-DC-5V-Step-UP-Boost-Voltage-Converter/32268508188.html
    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MCP1702-3302E-TO-IC-REG-LDO-3-3V-25A-TO-92-3-MCP1702-3302E-1702-MCP1702/32225711061.html

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      My 2xAA Nimh or 1 x 18650 Li-Ion battery sensors use a DC-DC boost converter to crank up the voltage to 5V, then with a LDO MCP1702 i step down to 3.3V to power the arduino pro mini, the nRF24L01+ and the DS18B20. First test results show me that over 2 weeks my battery voltage went down with 4%, that should give me theoretically +/- 8 months without charging the batteries.

      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8pcs-Very-small-DC-DC-0-9-5V-to-DC-5V-Step-UP-Boost-Voltage-Converter/32268508188.html
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MCP1702-3302E-TO-IC-REG-LDO-3-3V-25A-TO-92-3-MCP1702-3302E-1702-MCP1702/32225711061.html

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      @ericvdb another theory:
      4% in 2 weeks => 20% in 6 weeks = battery empty
      upload-7d4c6a2a-e02f-44c0-a756-0bf884e63b91

      not to mention the self discharge of NimH cells:
      upload-475bb1c6-5d66-4054-b160-1ff9a688bf90

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        If you're on a small budget there's always the good old fashion thermistor or even cheaper is to use the internal sensor. At least the later requires calibration, on the other hand most people doesn't check their precalibrated DS18B20s or Si7021 which in surprisingly many cases have accuracy out of spec. I've also learned from my experiments that the internal sensor seems to be much better than expected. But, even if it seems useful for lowpower (minimal self heating) applications, I don't know if it's reliable over time.

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        • m26872M m26872

          If you're on a small budget there's always the good old fashion thermistor or even cheaper is to use the internal sensor. At least the later requires calibration, on the other hand most people doesn't check their precalibrated DS18B20s or Si7021 which in surprisingly many cases have accuracy out of spec. I've also learned from my experiments that the internal sensor seems to be much better than expected. But, even if it seems useful for lowpower (minimal self heating) applications, I don't know if it's reliable over time.

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          diggs
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          @m26872 . Yes, I have a couple of K Type thermocouples on the way to do a bit of testing with as well as I will have a requirement for some reasonably extreme temps in some applications, -196 to +150

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            If you're on a small budget there's always the good old fashion thermistor or even cheaper is to use the internal sensor. At least the later requires calibration, on the other hand most people doesn't check their precalibrated DS18B20s or Si7021 which in surprisingly many cases have accuracy out of spec. I've also learned from my experiments that the internal sensor seems to be much better than expected. But, even if it seems useful for lowpower (minimal self heating) applications, I don't know if it's reliable over time.

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            @m26872

            Have you seen that the ds1820 / si7021 is out of spec from the factory? (temperature wise).

            Humidity on the Si7021 can be affected by a lot of factors, such as high humidity for a prolonged period.. But temperature should be within the specification.

            Could also be fake devices..

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              To clearify; NO I have not seen si7072 out of spec. (I only own 2.) But when I compare a lot of DS18B20s with each other I've found some diverge >1.5C in very harmonic conditions. I don't want to publish my setup or results until I've got I class A Pt100 as reference, but research (google) told me others have seen the same. Probably with fake or clone ones.

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                diggs
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                l was just wondering if anyone had a sketch for connecting a K type thermocouple to the mysensors network or could point me in the right direction?

                I received a coupe today and want get them hooked up

                http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400798924042?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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                  To clearify; NO I have not seen si7072 out of spec. (I only own 2.) But when I compare a lot of DS18B20s with each other I've found some diverge >1.5C in very harmonic conditions. I don't want to publish my setup or results until I've got I class A Pt100 as reference, but research (google) told me others have seen the same. Probably with fake or clone ones.

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                  @m26872 I've seen the same with real ones. Two sitting right next to each other and their temperature readings are off by over 1°C.

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                    ahhk
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                    also check HTU21D....

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                      riataman
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                      Check the bmp180. Its a presure sensor, but it includes a fairly accurate temperature sensor and is rated down to 1.8v.

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