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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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  • AWIA AWI

    Currently this is my favorite board. Minimal size, traditional components and just enough breadboard space. A few variations:
    0_1454859878498_upload-23af4fbe-6938-4079-9fc4-d149c8950370 Soldered an 8 mHz resonator (a 'crystal' which does not need the capacitors) for a more stable clock.

    0_1454860192227_upload-c6f3a164-b5cb-43f5-af82-c556674568f4 0_1454860883223_upload-351808cf-868d-4076-80ce-2e4b05ec4898 Soldered a 3.3v LDO (662k) under the radio to have it powered with a rechargeable Lipo (4.1V max) battery. And added a voltage divider to measure the actual battery voltage.

    0_1454860058592_upload-a677913a-22a8-466d-920d-ae620591088b 0_1454860344864_upload-77335242-a0b4-4371-85f5-4d11731c0868
    With a SMD version of the radio. Needs some creative soldering...

    0_1454860702395_upload-e1af1f72-11c5-409d-9eca-762e3c657183 Compared to an other favourite ( @GertSanders )

    It would even be better if the smd radio could be soldered on the board. Kicad is giving me a headache so if anybody wants to volunteer with a panelized design.... (I will reward you with a free batch of 'dirty' boards, just drop me a pm)

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    @AWI said:

    panelized design

    If you're struggling with panelizing boards I can recommend the excellent gerber tools from Stijn Kuipers.

    It allows you to create designs like this (10x10cm, DirtyPCBs):

    0_1454871223582_20150501-111911.jpg

    Drop him a message and he'll send you a download link.

    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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    • YveauxY Yveaux

      @AWI said:

      panelized design

      If you're struggling with panelizing boards I can recommend the excellent gerber tools from Stijn Kuipers.

      It allows you to create designs like this (10x10cm, DirtyPCBs):

      0_1454871223582_20150501-111911.jpg

      Drop him a message and he'll send you a download link.

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      AWI
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      #238

      @Yveaux Tnhx, but I guess I am not ready for the first step (creating/ adapting a board in Kicad) yet ....

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      • AWIA AWI

        @Yveaux Tnhx, but I guess I am not ready for the first step (creating/ adapting a board in Kicad) yet ....

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        @AWI Sorry, can't help you with that. All Eagle here :sweat_smile:

        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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          @Yveaux I tried to find an email address on the website, but apart from a LinkIn link I could not find anything. Also, in LinkedIn you need a paying version to be able to send InMail, and I do not have a paid account. Would you care to tell me how you were able to send Stijn a message ?

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          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

            A couple of more questions. In one of the pictures at the top the electrulyte 4,.7 uf capacitator is placed closer to the atmel chip and the 0.1 uf (c5) is placed closest to the edge does it matter witch capacitator goes where?

            The 10k resistor should be 1/4 or 1/8 W according to the bom. I had some small 1/6 W 10k resistors can I use them? I also have some bigger blue 10k resistor that I do not know the W rating on.

            Where did you purchase the female pin-header that are used for the chips? I have some atmega chip-sockets that are quite narrow and it is hard to fit the components underneath. I also have some other female pin-headers but they are atleast twice as high than the ones in the pictures.

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            @Cliff-Karlsson You can swap the capacitors and use all resistor dissipation values. The pin headers you can find here for example

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            • GertSandersG GertSanders

              @Yveaux I tried to find an email address on the website, but apart from a LinkIn link I could not find anything. Also, in LinkedIn you need a paying version to be able to send InMail, and I do not have a paid account. Would you care to tell me how you were able to send Stijn a message ?

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              @GertSanders It's been a while, but my first contact was through his Twitter account. Try that first, otherwise ping me.

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @GertSanders It's been a while, but my first contact was through his Twitter account. Try that first, otherwise ping me.

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                @Yveaux I do not have a twitter account, so no joy. And I feel stupid to say so, but how do you ping someone on this forum ?

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @AWI said:

                  panelized design

                  If you're struggling with panelizing boards I can recommend the excellent gerber tools from Stijn Kuipers.

                  It allows you to create designs like this (10x10cm, DirtyPCBs):

                  0_1454871223582_20150501-111911.jpg

                  Drop him a message and he'll send you a download link.

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                  @Yveaux i remember once that i read that dirtypcbs does not allow for different designs in their panelized boards. Am i correct ?

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                  • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                    @Yveaux i remember once that i read that dirtypcbs does not allow for different designs in their panelized boards. Am i correct ?

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                    @ahmedadelhosni apparently not :blush:
                    The board above was produced by ditypcb's. In fact they're one of the few (only?) cheap PCB manufacturers that allow panelization.

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                      @ahmedadelhosni apparently not :blush:
                      The board above was produced by ditypcb's. In fact they're one of the few (only?) cheap PCB manufacturers that allow panelization.

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                      @Yveaux aha. I thought that this means multiple (same) design not different. Thanks :)

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                        Updated first post with share stats and info.

                        Feature requests and example links will come asap.

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                            Just ordered my first set of boards; v2.0 in Red; can't wait to try these out!

                            Thanks @m26872

                            My Projects
                            2 Door Chime Sensor
                            Washing Machine Monitor

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                              Hi

                              I've just ordered a set of the PCB boards and looking forward to putting these together mainly into reed switches and motion sensors

                              I have scanned the whole thread and there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive list of exactly which components are required anywhere here, well not all in one place at least.

                              Can I just confirm exactly what is required to build a senor node.

                              1 x PDB board
                              1 x ATMega328p 28pin PDIP
                              1 x NRF24L01+ radio module
                              1 x 4.7uF Decoupling-Capacitor for radio (I assume these are still required??)
                              1 x right angle pin header for connecting to program and connect batteries
                              1 x Length of cable ducting for housing
                              2 x AA batteries
                              Cables for connecting batteries
                              Battery connector
                              1 x senor of choice
                              I notice there seem to be an assortment of capacitors/regulators in most of the photos on this thread, but no definitive list of which are needed. (I am very new to all this so please excuse my ignorance)

                              Extras needed
                              1 x FTDI USB to TTL Serial Adapter

                              Have I missed anything of my list? Also I would be really grateful for links to some of the above components.

                              Sorry these are very basic noob questions, but I feel it would really helpful for people such as myself to have everything clearly listed in one place, as the main mysensors build pages do. So people know exactly what is needed.

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                                @Matt-Pitts You can find a BOM for the board here:

                                https://www.openhardware.io/view/10/My-Slim-2AA-Battery-Node

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                                  A nice additions would be a place to solder a ATSHA204A on board like the Sensebender! I'll try to make the change in KiCad!

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                                  • SoloamS Soloam

                                    A nice additions would be a place to solder a ATSHA204A on board like the Sensebender! I'll try to make the change in KiCad!

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                                    @Soloam
                                    and a flash module for OTA Sketch Uploads :-)

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                                      Thanks @GertSanders for showing me the BOM I hadn't realised it was there, but do I need everything listed there to get it working properly?

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                                      • Matt PittsM Matt Pitts

                                        Thanks @GertSanders for showing me the BOM I hadn't realised it was there, but do I need everything listed there to get it working properly?

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                                        #255

                                        @Matt-Pitts
                                        I'm assuming that if a designer goes through the trouble of listing items on a bom, they are needed.

                                        But you are right, that is not always the case. I'm not at my Mac (using a miniscreen now), so i can not multitask.

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                                          Hello,
                                          I have problems to upload the scatch to the bare Amtel. I use an USB-TTL FTL Adaper and connect, RX/TX and Reset Pin with 100n->DTR. But I got always errors on uploading.

                                          The bootloader I have successfull burned with an raspberry pi and gpio (http://www.lxccu.com/hb-raspberry-bootloader-update):

                                          sudo bin/avrdude -Cbin/avrdude.conf -p m328p -P gpio -c gpio -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xde:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m -e -Uflash:w:1443392692398-atmega328_1a.hex:i
                                          avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK

                                          How can I got it working?
                                          Thank you

                                          Thomas

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