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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    wrote on last edited by
    #251

    @Matt-Pitts You can find a BOM for the board here:

    https://www.openhardware.io/view/10/My-Slim-2AA-Battery-Node

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    • SoloamS Offline
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      Soloam
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      #252

      A nice additions would be a place to solder a ATSHA204A on board like the Sensebender! I'll try to make the change in KiCad!

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      • SoloamS Soloam

        A nice additions would be a place to solder a ATSHA204A on board like the Sensebender! I'll try to make the change in KiCad!

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        #253

        @Soloam
        and a flash module for OTA Sketch Uploads :-)

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        • Matt PittsM Offline
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          #254

          Thanks @GertSanders for showing me the BOM I hadn't realised it was there, but do I need everything listed there to get it working properly?

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          • Matt PittsM Matt Pitts

            Thanks @GertSanders for showing me the BOM I hadn't realised it was there, but do I need everything listed there to get it working properly?

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            GertSanders
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            wrote on last edited by GertSanders
            #255

            @Matt-Pitts
            I'm assuming that if a designer goes through the trouble of listing items on a bom, they are needed.

            But you are right, that is not always the case. I'm not at my Mac (using a miniscreen now), so i can not multitask.

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            • Tom71T Offline
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              #256

              Hello,
              I have problems to upload the scatch to the bare Amtel. I use an USB-TTL FTL Adaper and connect, RX/TX and Reset Pin with 100n->DTR. But I got always errors on uploading.

              The bootloader I have successfull burned with an raspberry pi and gpio (http://www.lxccu.com/hb-raspberry-bootloader-update):

              sudo bin/avrdude -Cbin/avrdude.conf -p m328p -P gpio -c gpio -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xde:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m -e -Uflash:w:1443392692398-atmega328_1a.hex:i
              avrdude: safemode: Fuses OK

              How can I got it working?
              Thank you

              Thomas

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              • bjacobseB Offline
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                #257

                Have you tried to upload a standard arduino bootloader?, are you using correct baud settings for uploading?

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                • Tom71T Offline
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                  @bjacobse No, used the bootloader from here (http://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1443392692398-atmega328_1a.hex). This is an bootloader for the internal clock.
                  Baud settings to upload the sketch or the bootloader?

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                  • Tom71T Tom71

                    @bjacobse No, used the bootloader from here (http://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1443392692398-atmega328_1a.hex). This is an bootloader for the internal clock.
                    Baud settings to upload the sketch or the bootloader?

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                    m26872
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                    #259

                    @Tom71 I think the question was if you have been successful with programming a standard bootloader to a standard Arduino board and then uploading and running a sketch?

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                    • Tom71T Offline
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                      #260

                      @m26872 Sure, but not with an bootloader (optiboot with intenal clock) on an bare Atmega. Later I will try this: http://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1454449901412-7.png
                      I build some MySensors with an Arduino Micro, but not with only an Atmega.

                      Update: I don't know what's different, but this works. Perhaps I forget to connect Reset from FDL -> Pin 1.
                      Now I can upload simple sketches.

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                      • bjacobseB Offline
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                        #261

                        I have not had success to upload a sketch via FTDI on an Arduino ProMini using Optiboot. When I flash an ordinary bootloader (Taken from the Arduino IDE), I can easily upload a sketch via FTDI.
                        so that's why I recommend to flash a standard bootloader and check if you then can upload a sketch afterwards.

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                        • bjacobseB bjacobse

                          I have not had success to upload a sketch via FTDI on an Arduino ProMini using Optiboot. When I flash an ordinary bootloader (Taken from the Arduino IDE), I can easily upload a sketch via FTDI.
                          so that's why I recommend to flash a standard bootloader and check if you then can upload a sketch afterwards.

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                          #262

                          @bjacobse Witch bootloader you have taken?

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                          • Matt PittsM Offline
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                            #263

                            Hi I'm just about to start ording parts of the slim node. Looking through the thread I'm thinking based on my limited knowledge of arduino, I might be better off buying chips which already have a bootloader installed?

                            Can people advise, how difficult is it to upload the boot loader? Thanks

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                              @Matt-Pitts - Not that hard if you read about it. Here are some good links:

                              • https://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/Bootloader?from=Tutorial.Bootloader
                              • https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoISP
                              • https://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard

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                              • Tom71T Tom71

                                @bjacobse Witch bootloader you have taken?

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                                @Tom71
                                well I have not yet started to use the Mysensor specific bootloader. When I use the optiboot, I upload sketch with my USBtiny (so no FTDI), and when I use FTDI for uploading sketch I used the "Arduino Pro or pro mini (3,3V, 8MHz) w/ATmega328"

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                                  @Tom71
                                  well I have not yet started to use the Mysensor specific bootloader. When I use the optiboot, I upload sketch with my USBtiny (so no FTDI), and when I use FTDI for uploading sketch I used the "Arduino Pro or pro mini (3,3V, 8MHz) w/ATmega328"

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #266

                                  @bjacobse I thought the USBtiny is only to upload the bootloader, not the mysensors software.
                                  I did two things:

                                  1. Burn the bootloader atmega328_1a.hex to an bare Atmega328p with an Arduino as ISP
                                  2. Upload an simple scetch to the Atmega with an RX/TX uploader (I used an USB to TTL with an FTDI and also an Ardunino Uno without the Atmega chip, like here http://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1454449901412-7.png) Both are working.

                                  I'm still waiting for the PCB. After receiving I want to build the motion sensor.

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                                  • Tom71T Tom71

                                    @bjacobse I thought the USBtiny is only to upload the bootloader, not the mysensors software.
                                    I did two things:

                                    1. Burn the bootloader atmega328_1a.hex to an bare Atmega328p with an Arduino as ISP
                                    2. Upload an simple scetch to the Atmega with an RX/TX uploader (I used an USB to TTL with an FTDI and also an Ardunino Uno without the Atmega chip, like here http://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1454449901412-7.png) Both are working.

                                    I'm still waiting for the PCB. After receiving I want to build the motion sensor.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #267

                                    @Tom71
                                    USBtiny is a programmer, and can both burn (upload) sketch + burn bootloader

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #268

                                      Difference is that if you use a ISP programmer you will use the complete memory. You can use ISP to upload a bootloader which is required to burn a sketch with ftdi into remaining memory but its possible to use a ISP to flash a sketch without bootloader as well.

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                                      • Matt PittsM Matt Pitts

                                        Hi I'm just about to start ording parts of the slim node. Looking through the thread I'm thinking based on my limited knowledge of arduino, I might be better off buying chips which already have a bootloader installed?

                                        Can people advise, how difficult is it to upload the boot loader? Thanks

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #269

                                        @Matt-Pitts
                                        Depending of your Arduino, the USBtiny is easy to use. Maybe your Aeduino have the pinheader so then only click the cable and burn bootloader. I use Arduino Pro Mini and have an adapter ZIF socket that fits my Arduino ProMini
                                        https://learn.adafruit.com/usbtinyisp

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                                        • bjacobseB bjacobse

                                          @Tom71
                                          USBtiny is a programmer, and can both burn (upload) sketch + burn bootloader

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #270

                                          @bjacobse I'm out of fucus. What was the problem? Can you burn the bootloader+sketch with an USBtiny on an bare Atmgea328p? Connected on MISO/MOSI/SCK/RESET/VCC/GND?
                                          The Arduino Pro Mini is different from the Atmgea328p. On the arduino is an external clock.

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