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In wall light switch node - Custom PCB

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    Samuel235
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    I'm currently researching into capacitive touch sensing. I'm very tempted to create face plates from a 3DPrinter and enable it to have multiple capacitive sensors behind this plate to allow the use as a light switch. This will be an additional option, not necessary for this PCB to work. You will still be able to use a normal switch connected to the PCB. Just would be different software, potentially.

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      Project has been uploaded to https://www.openhardware.io/view/48/Homini-In-Wall-Battery-Powered-Light-Switch-Module

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        Project has been uploaded to https://www.openhardware.io/view/48/Homini-In-Wall-Battery-Powered-Light-Switch-Module

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        @Samuel235 Any news regarding the new revision?

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          @Samuel235 Any news regarding the new revision?

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          @Sefi-Ninio said:

          @Samuel235 Any news regarding the new revision?

          I'm struggling with time at the monent due to my full time job. I'm currently working on the upload issues. I feel that its the bootloader not matching the avr settings correctly with the upload speeds. @GertSanders has given a couple of bootloader examples for me to try which i will start testing tonight on that for you guys.

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            Currently experiencing some issues with what we speculate to be a fuse burning issue. I'll be troubleshooting further today. Will keep updates coming.

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              Is that related to the circuit for battery level? Or something else?
              What are the differences between the current rev. and what you are working on now?

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                Is that related to the circuit for battery level? Or something else?
                What are the differences between the current rev. and what you are working on now?

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                @Sefi-Ninio said:

                Is that related to the circuit for battery level? Or something else?
                What are the differences between the current rev. and what you are working on now?

                It is concerning the serial upload issues i was having. The current revision doesn't include a bootloader and then therefor we can't upload via serial adapter. This in turn makes it unable to program anything once the radio is soldered directly to the board. I'm currently in discussions with GertSanders to try and figure out the issues with my bootloaders. Once this is sorted i will be able to program and debug the node through the serial interface/monitor.

                The next step will be to include a basic voltage divider method of reading the battery level i think. I did do various tests about a month ago and i will re-evaluate the situation on that. I may be a simple voltage divider solution or i may go for some exotic method. Even though the power consumption is slightly more heavy on the voltage divider method, i think i will go ahead and choose this method because of its simplicity for new users to just solder a couple of resistors on board. We will see.

                I do have another project/module in the design phases and a topic thread located here.

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                  I have a problem finding the right wall switch. Normally they are all laid out for 230 volts, making them really big and requiring a lot of depth. Does anyone have experience with low voltage switches, which look nice and can be used for such projects ?
                  Thanks !

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                    I have a problem finding the right wall switch. Normally they are all laid out for 230 volts, making them really big and requiring a lot of depth. Does anyone have experience with low voltage switches, which look nice and can be used for such projects ?
                    Thanks !

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                    @Sander-Teunissen, I have these running on a coin cell battery and the sizes for the overall board are: Height: 16mm, Width: 26mm, Length: 48mm. Please note that these sizes are that of the module without insulation. My current working node has its back covered with some fabric to stop it shorting out on the metal backbox. I need to come up with a solution for this. When i order my 3D Printer i'm hoping to fashion some sort of shielding for the rear.

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                      I'm currently waiting on some more components to get this module up and running with thanks to @GertSanders providing the bootloader. All being well we will have it completed in the next month to be running with the radio and allowing ISP and FTDI/Serial uploads with the radio all connected.

                      Does anyone have any feature requests for this module other than simple battery monitoring?

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                        Just wondering, any of you guys looked into touch switches like below 0_1461627979698_HT1j2QTFGhXXXagOFbXh.jpg

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                          Just wondering, any of you guys looked into touch switches like below 0_1461627979698_HT1j2QTFGhXXXagOFbXh.jpg

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                          @jeylites, i was going to make a thread on these exact switches soon to discuss the possibility of interfacing them as they run on RF. Keep your eyes open for the thread asap ;).

                          I would like to make my own switch front with pressure capacitance at some point but thats for another day.

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                            UPDATE - Feature upgrades

                            I have had the materials arrive to attempt to get the latest fixes sorted for this board. Hopefully this will allow us to serial upload while the radio is soldered permanently onto the board. I will update soon as i have attempted this. Keep you posted!

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                              @jeylites, i was going to make a thread on these exact switches soon to discuss the possibility of interfacing them as they run on RF. Keep your eyes open for the thread asap ;).

                              I would like to make my own switch front with pressure capacitance at some point but thats for another day.

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                              @Samuel235 said:

                              @jeylites, i was going to make a thread on these exact switches soon to discuss the possibility of interfacing them as they run on RF. Keep your eyes open for the thread asap ;).

                              I would like to make my own switch front with pressure capacitance at some point but thats for another day.

                              I didn't read this. interesting..one of my current project in progress is exactly this! Designing a special shield for glass plate etc :) the same for controlling one switch or more ;)
                              I have few Livolo that I have disassembled and looked how it works inside. but I'm not fan of 433mhz radio (or that would need some rflink). I'm actually trying to decidde the best way, if I want to hack it, or if I will do my own switch with glass plate I found. because I would like dimming, rfm69, authentication and my shield...

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                                @Samuel235 said:

                                @jeylites, i was going to make a thread on these exact switches soon to discuss the possibility of interfacing them as they run on RF. Keep your eyes open for the thread asap ;).

                                I would like to make my own switch front with pressure capacitance at some point but thats for another day.

                                I didn't read this. interesting..one of my current project in progress is exactly this! Designing a special shield for glass plate etc :) the same for controlling one switch or more ;)
                                I have few Livolo that I have disassembled and looked how it works inside. but I'm not fan of 433mhz radio (or that would need some rflink). I'm actually trying to decidde the best way, if I want to hack it, or if I will do my own switch with glass plate I found. because I would like dimming, rfm69, authentication and my shield...

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                                @scalz, If i'm honest I would like to see both. I love to see hacks being perfected, especially in products with such a clean finish as these but then again i also love seeing brand news products being brought to life. Either one you do, i'll be sure to support your ideas!

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                                  Having some very intermittent issues regarding uploading to this board using an FTDI adapter, 2 in fact. I have tried two adapters now and neither are giving me solid results. I have checked all solder joints and all seems fine. Time to start troubleshooting further. I'm uploading to this board using fuse settings of Low: E2 and High: DE, with a brownout detection point of 1v8. The error that i get 9/10 times is just that the programmer is out of sync. I will report back with my findings.

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                                    UPDATE

                                    We have a working node. We're now able to serial upload and monitor the module with thanks to @GertSanders and his bootloader.

                                    So the node currently has 2 switch inputs and that would be the maximum for the hardware interrupt, i may do some investigating to get another port for interrupt to enable us to have 3 switches on the one node.

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                                      UPDATE

                                      We have a working node. We're now able to serial upload and monitor the module with thanks to @GertSanders and his bootloader.

                                      So the node currently has 2 switch inputs and that would be the maximum for the hardware interrupt, i may do some investigating to get another port for interrupt to enable us to have 3 switches on the one node.

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                                      @Samuel235

                                      Well, lets all thank the lead designer of the Optiboot boot loader: Bill Westfield !
                                      Without his code and repository my compilations would not give any results.

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                                        @Samuel235

                                        Well, lets all thank the lead designer of the Optiboot boot loader: Bill Westfield !
                                        Without his code and repository my compilations would not give any results.

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                                        Samuel235
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                                        @GertSanders, get him here and lets all buy him cake and beer!

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                                          For more than two switches see: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11091
                                          I would add a hardware debouncing (R/C) to avoid the problems mentioned in the article.

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