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  • tbowmoT tbowmo

    @alexsh1

    So gateway with nrf and W5100 is working as it should as an ethernet gateway? Then the W5100 is working with the gateway.

    What is the hardware configuration that you can't get to work? Rfm69 and W5100? Together with the samd GW?

    (just trying to figure out what is going on :))

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    @tbowmo No, sensebender GW is working with nrf24l01+ as a serial GW, but not with W5100 as ethernet GW.

    Interesting observation - I cannot ping the IP any more if I load the ethernet sketch. For your understanding the sensebender GW was never working with W5100 with either nrf or rfm69. Something going wrong around W5100.

    I'll hook up W5100 shield to Arduino nano to test it - I have a suspicion about it. However, even without W5100 connected, sensebender GW is showing IP as 0.0.0.0 (I set IP 10.1.1.150). Why?

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      If the ethernet library can't initialize the W5100, it will just write IP address as 0.0.0.0.

      Can you please turn on verbose compile logging in arduino? (file -> Settings, set a checkmark at show verbose output during compilation, and choose "all" in Compiler warnings)

      I just want to make sure that it is using the correct ethernet library.

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      • tbowmoT tbowmo

        If the ethernet library can't initialize the W5100, it will just write IP address as 0.0.0.0.

        Can you please turn on verbose compile logging in arduino? (file -> Settings, set a checkmark at show verbose output during compilation, and choose "all" in Compiler warnings)

        I just want to make sure that it is using the correct ethernet library.

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        @tbowmo I have verbose on already.
        I think you hit the nail on the head:

        Linking everything together...
        "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\arm-none-eabi-gcc\4.8.3-2014q1/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc"  "-LC:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079" -Os -Wl,--gc-sections -save-temps  "-TC:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MySensors\hardware\samd\1.0.5\variants\mysensors_gw/linker_scripts/gcc/flash_with_bootloader.ld" "-Wl,-Map,C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.map" --specs=nano.specs --specs=nosys.specs -mcpu=cortex-m0plus -mthumb -Wl,--cref -Wl,--check-sections -Wl,--gc-sections -Wl,--unresolved-symbols=report-all -Wl,--warn-common -Wl,--warn-section-align -o "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.elf" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\sketch\GatewayW5100.ino.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\Dhcp.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\Dns.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\Ethernet.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\EthernetClient.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\EthernetServer.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\EthernetUdp.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\utility\socket.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Ethernet\utility\w5100.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\Wire\Wire.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\libraries\SPI\SPI.cpp.o" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079\core\variant.cpp.o" -Wl,--start-group "-LC:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\CMSIS\4.5.0/CMSIS/Lib/GCC/" -larm_cortexM0l_math -lm "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/core\core.a" -Wl,--end-group
        "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\arm-none-eabi-gcc\4.8.3-2014q1/bin/arm-none-eabi-objcopy" -O binary  "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.elf" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.bin"
        "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\arm-none-eabi-gcc\4.8.3-2014q1/bin/arm-none-eabi-objcopy" -O ihex -R .eeprom  "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.elf" "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_753079/GatewayW5100.ino.hex"
        Multiple libraries were found for "Ethernet.h"
         Used: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MySensors\hardware\samd\1.0.5\libraries\Ethernet
         Not used: C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\libraries\Ethernet
        Using library Ethernet at version 1.1.2 in folder: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\MySensors\hardware\samd\1.0.5\libraries\Ethernet 
        Using library MySensors at version 2.2.0-beta in folder: C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Arduino\libraries\MySensors 
        Using library Wire at version 1.0 in folder: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\hardware\samd\1.6.12\libraries\Wire 
        Using library SPI at version 1.0 in folder: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\hardware\samd\1.6.12\libraries\SPI 
        Sketch uses 45512 bytes (17%) of program storage space. Maximum is 262144 bytes.```
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          wrote on last edited by
          #265

          It is using "our" ethernet driver, which it should be.. The default arduino ethernet driver is hardwired to SERCOM0 for SPI, while we have it on SERCOM1.

          I'll try to bring up one of my own gateways with W5100 later today.

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            @alexsh1

            Below is the startup log from my Gateway with W5100 and RFM69 attached:

            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RRNGS--,VER=2.2.0-beta
            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:LRT:OK
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
            0;255;3;0;9;TSF:WUR:MS=0
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:GW MODE
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
            IP: 192.168.1.66
            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
            0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
            

            As seen, the W5100 is initialized with ip address,

            Telnet to the Gateway is also working:

            thomas at thomas-ThinkPad-L450 in ~ 
            >telnet 192.168.1.66 5003
            Trying 192.168.1.66...
            Connected to 192.168.1.66.
            Escape character is '^]'.
            200;255;4;0;0;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0300
            200;255;0;0;17;2.2.0-beta
            200;255;3;0;6;0
            200;255;3;0;11;Sensebender Micro
            200;255;3;0;12;1.4
            200;1;0;0;6;
            200;2;0;0;7;
            200;1;1;0;0;23.3
            200;2;1;0;1;46
            200;255;3;0;0;81
            

            The above is with the stock example sketch from mysensors (right now latest development branch though). The only things I changed, was to enable RFM69, instead of NRF24, and set a different IP address, to match my network settings.

            Everything else is running as is, delivered from the mysensors examples..

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            • tbowmoT tbowmo

              @alexsh1

              Below is the startup log from my Gateway with W5100 and RFM69 attached:

              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RRNGS--,VER=2.2.0-beta
              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:LRT:OK
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
              0;255;3;0;9;TSF:WUR:MS=0
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:TSP OK
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:GW MODE
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
              IP: 192.168.1.66
              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
              0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
              

              As seen, the W5100 is initialized with ip address,

              Telnet to the Gateway is also working:

              thomas at thomas-ThinkPad-L450 in ~ 
              >telnet 192.168.1.66 5003
              Trying 192.168.1.66...
              Connected to 192.168.1.66.
              Escape character is '^]'.
              200;255;4;0;0;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0300
              200;255;0;0;17;2.2.0-beta
              200;255;3;0;6;0
              200;255;3;0;11;Sensebender Micro
              200;255;3;0;12;1.4
              200;1;0;0;6;
              200;2;0;0;7;
              200;1;1;0;0;23.3
              200;2;1;0;1;46
              200;255;3;0;0;81
              

              The above is with the stock example sketch from mysensors (right now latest development branch though). The only things I changed, was to enable RFM69, instead of NRF24, and set a different IP address, to match my network settings.

              Everything else is running as is, delivered from the mysensors examples..

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              wrote on last edited by
              #267

              @tbowmo if you take off the W5100 shield, does it still come up with IP please:

              255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
              IP: 192.168.1.66
              
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                @alexsh1

                This log is without ethernet shield attached

                0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RRNGS--,VER=2.2.0-beta
                0;255;3;0;9;TSF:LRT:OK
                0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
                0;255;3;0;9;TSF:WUR:MS=0
                0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:GW MODE
                0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
                0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
                IP: 0.0.0.0
                0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                
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                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                  @alexsh1

                  This log is without ethernet shield attached

                  0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RRNGS--,VER=2.2.0-beta
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSF:LRT:OK
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSF:WUR:MS=0
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT:GW MODE
                  0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
                  0;255;3;0;9;MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
                  IP: 0.0.0.0
                  0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:STP
                  0;255;3;0;9;MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                  
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                  #269

                  @tbowmo Thanks - I am assuming that I have a faulty W5100 shield in this case. Unfortunately, I have received a wrong replacement shield enc28j60 instead of W5100. Do you know if Sensebender GW would work with

                  #define MY_GATEWAY_ENC28J60
                  

                  The one I have does not have AMS1117-3.3 on board and must be fed with 3.3V instead of 5v

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                    #270

                    @tbowmo The problem has been identified. I have used a hot fan to re-sit W5100 on the network shield.
                    AND

                    0;255;3;0;9;2430 MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RNNGS---,VER=2.2.0-beta
                    0;255;3;0;9;2477 TSF:LRT:OK
                    0;255;3;0;9;2487 TSM:INIT
                    0;255;3;0;9;2497 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                    0;255;3;0;9;2512 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                    0;255;3;0;9;2522 TSM:INIT:GW MODE
                    0;255;3;0;9;2532 TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
                    0;255;3;0;9;2542 MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
                    IP: 10.1.1.200
                    0;255;3;0;9;3852 MCO:BGN:STP
                    0;255;3;0;9;3862 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                    

                    Still cannot ping it, which means there is still a problem with the shield.
                    It is of a poor quality and does have multiple bridges around W5100 like this:
                    0_1495292173685_HTB1VJAfNFXXXXaGXFXXq6xXFXXXF.jpg

                    I found a similar problem here:
                    https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/156147/are-solder-bridges-on-chips-always-bad

                    At least I know where the problem is.
                    Thanks @tbowmo

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                      wrote on last edited by tbowmo
                      #271

                      @alexsh1

                      Great, that we found the problem, and thanks for reporting back here on the forum :)

                      I haven't tried with other ethernet controllers, than the W5100, And the socket for W5100 is supplied with 5V directly.

                      Also, I do not know if they are pin compatible?

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                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                        @alexsh1

                        Great, that we found the problem, and thanks for reporting back here on the forum :)

                        I haven't tried with other ethernet controllers, than the W5100, And the socket for W5100 is supplied with 5V directly.

                        Also, I do not know if they are pin compatible?

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                        #272

                        @tbowmo I think they are pin compatible but unfortunately take different voltage. On arduino board, somebody told me that enc28j60 can tolerate 5V. It seems to be the case, as mine survived w5100 socket

                        EDIT: From the enc28j60 datasheet

                        • Operating Voltage of 3.1V to 3.6V (3.3V typical)
                        • 5V Tolerant Input
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                        • tbowmoT tbowmo

                          @alexsh1

                          Great, that we found the problem, and thanks for reporting back here on the forum :)

                          I haven't tried with other ethernet controllers, than the W5100, And the socket for W5100 is supplied with 5V directly.

                          Also, I do not know if they are pin compatible?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #273

                          @tbowmo I can confirm now that everything is working fine after I tested the Sensebender GW with the third (yes, third!!!) shield. Thanks Thomas for your help!

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                            #274

                            @tbowmo The pinout is identical.

                            W5100
                            alt text

                            ENC28J60
                            alt text

                            I can modify ENC28J60 shield (reduce voltage to 3.3V) and test it with the sensebender GW, but it does require hardware mod

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                              #275

                              Question,
                              "To use the serial port in the mysx connector, you should use Serial1 in your sketches, as the default Serial is connected to the USB serial device"

                              What pins is the serial port in the mysx connector, I see no mention of it other than that line. I want to mirror the serial data sent to my controller via the USB port to the the serial port in the mysx connector that will then be attached to a bluetooth SPP device. Just want another way to view the radio traffic.

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                                wrote on last edited by tbowmo
                                #276

                                @nitroburn

                                Have you seen the documentation for MysX connector: https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/mysx?

                                (hint, look for Data To Module, and Data From Module :))

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                                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                  @nitroburn

                                  Have you seen the documentation for MysX connector: https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/mysx?

                                  (hint, look for Data To Module, and Data From Module :))

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                                  Contest Winner
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                                  #277

                                  @tbowmo @nitroburn
                                  Actually, it is even more clearly specified than that as DTM and DFM means Data To MCU and Data From MCU. "module" is not explicitly defining what "side" you mean. The MCU is clearly defined so DTM and DFM leavs no doubt on the direction and function of the pin.

                                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #278

                                    @tbowmo @Anticimex Thanks, I was stupidly searching for the wrong combination of terms and hadn't seen DTM DFM used so I was naively looking for the word serial or UART rather than USART when I did a search. Thought I was missing something and didn't read the mysx page close enough after briefly searching it.

                                    Thanks for clearing that up. #define MYSX_D1_DFM (00ul) & #define MYSX_D2_DTM (01ul) didn't stand out to me as serial connections.

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                                    • scalzS scalz

                                      @alexsh1
                                      woops, yes i made it but forgot the upload. it's now uploaded here https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway#design-files

                                      Enjoy :)

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                                      zboblamont
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                                      #279

                                      @scalz Can somebody edit the descriptive text for this Gateway. Under 'Secure IiT Radio Network' is quoted 'Hope RF RFM69HCW' whereas under 'Setup and use' is correctly quoted RFM69(H)W.
                                      Guess who had ordered the incorrect 'CW' module for this Gateway....

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                                      • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                        @scalz Can somebody edit the descriptive text for this Gateway. Under 'Secure IiT Radio Network' is quoted 'Hope RF RFM69HCW' whereas under 'Setup and use' is correctly quoted RFM69(H)W.
                                        Guess who had ordered the incorrect 'CW' module for this Gateway....

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                                        tbowmo
                                        Admin
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #280

                                        @zboblamont

                                        Sorry about that, it sneaked through the reviews.. I have updated the page, so others don't fall into the same pitfall..

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                                          #281

                                          Is it really correct that orange, green and red led should light constantly when powered on. On some activity from the sensors the leds blink, but goes to full constant light directly.

                                          An other thing, inclusion button. In sketch this is commented out, should it?

                                          // Digital pin used for inclusion mode button
                                          //#define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_BUTTON_PIN  3
                                          
                                          

                                          For me it is like GW is in constant inclusion mode. Gateway seams to work, it shows up in controller, and as soon as a sensor is powered up, it automatically also appears in controller... feels very unsecure. Just give power to a random sensor and it is in my controller.

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