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Slim Node Si7021 sensor example

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  • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

    The most SI7021 coming from ebay are with voltage regulator and level shifter. I searched for a raw version and there are only very few... If you are not sure, post a link or a foto.

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    m26872
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    @rollercontainer Thanks! You're absolutely right. I feel rather stupid not thinking of this. :(

    So @rsachoc, if you're have some GY-21 like boards still not yet modded like described in first post of this thread, then they should work excellent with your Uno.

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      Thanks both, I have the "pre-modded" si7021, so it's the one that should operate at between the 1.9 and 3.3v. I the Arduino I used to burn the Atmega is a knockoff, so it has both 3.3v and 5v. Let me do some research and see if I can test the si7021 using it.

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        Some pictures anyway!

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        • rsachocR rsachoc

          Some pictures anyway!

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          m26872
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          #70

          @rsachoc Great with pictures! It looks like you haven't enabled the pull-up resistors by filling the solder jumpers in the middle of the board? Like this: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/3/f/6/5/a/52855764757b7f06478b4567.jpg

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          • m26872M m26872

            @rsachoc Great with pictures! It looks like you haven't enabled the pull-up resistors by filling the solder jumpers in the middle of the board? Like this: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/3/f/6/5/a/52855764757b7f06478b4567.jpg

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            @m26872 oh! I didn't realise I needed to do that, could that be the problem? Do I just need to fill with solder the bit just below where the DA and "-" is?

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            • rsachocR rsachoc

              @m26872 oh! I didn't realise I needed to do that, could that be the problem? Do I just need to fill with solder the bit just below where the DA and "-" is?

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              m26872
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              @rsachoc It's probably it. And yes, it's rigth there. Make sure all of the three small pads interconnect.

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              • m26872M m26872

                @rsachoc It's probably it. And yes, it's rigth there. Make sure all of the three small pads interconnect.

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                @m26872 thanks! No time tonight, but a job for testing tomorrow.

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                  You could also use the 328 pullups! I had an unwilling Chinese light sensor (MAX44099) that drew a lot of power either with the VCC on or off. Since it's battery powered that is undesireable.

                  I used digitalWrite(SDA, LOW); digitalWrite(SCL, LOW); to tie the bus to ground. When the sensor wakes up, it writes HIGH to those pins and the bus is back online. Used a 500ms wait after this to let the sensors stabilise.

                  That sensor is now on a 6µA sleep current and a average 128µA over 2 hours measured with a 2 minute sleep cycle.

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                    #75

                    Tried it this evening, still no luck, let me see what I can get up to over the weekend.

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                    • D DavidZH

                      You could also use the 328 pullups! I had an unwilling Chinese light sensor (MAX44099) that drew a lot of power either with the VCC on or off. Since it's battery powered that is undesireable.

                      I used digitalWrite(SDA, LOW); digitalWrite(SCL, LOW); to tie the bus to ground. When the sensor wakes up, it writes HIGH to those pins and the bus is back online. Used a 500ms wait after this to let the sensors stabilise.

                      That sensor is now on a 6µA sleep current and a average 128µA over 2 hours measured with a 2 minute sleep cycle.

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                      @DavidZH True, internal pull-ups (20k?) should probably be enough for the normal i2c use (short wires, low speed, etc). But I wonder if pull-ups are consuming any significant power during passive state like sleeping sensor. Of course it's a good solution in case there're issues preventing the bus from beeing silent. Or worse, pulled down continuously.
                      What was your current before the change?
                      I think 500ms awake is a lot.

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                      • rsachocR rsachoc

                        Tried it this evening, still no luck, let me see what I can get up to over the weekend.

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                        @rsachoc Crap. Maybe it's something else then.:disappointed:

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                          I switch them off with a LOW write before the sensor goes to sleep and you're absolutely right about the wait time being very long. In this case I didn't mind because the sensor is powered by a solar panel.
                          I can't really remember what the exact value but it was an order of magnitude... I also used the voltage divider way to measure voltage because the Moteino has a regulator on board, so that upped the sleep current a little (10M resistor to keep the current low).

                          I went searching because the current went UP when I switched the power to the sensor off before sleep. Gammon.co.au is a very useful source, but I can't remember where I dug this hack up.
                          I will be making other battery sensors for inside with a HTU21d and I will post more on those in a 'My Project' mega gallery including measurements. (And dig around in the HTU datasheet for the start up time....)

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                            According to the datasheet the absolute maximum time to get ready is 80ms.

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                              Thanx! Saves me a trip! :grin:

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                                RTFM :-P

                                https://www.silabs.com/Support Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7021-A20.pdf

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                                  Ok, so I messed up my previous sensor trying to solder the bridge (don't ask...) I have now (I think) soldered it and reconnected it, am now getting the following:

                                  Serial started
                                  Voltage: 3359 mV
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=fail:1.5.4
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=fail:0
                                  sensor started, id=132, parent=0, distance=1
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=15,sg=0,st=fail:EgTmpHumBat5min
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:1.0 151106
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                                  find parent
                                  send: 132-132-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
                                  send: 132-132-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                                  Node and 2 children presented.
                                  

                                  I'm going to try get everything on a breadboard, but now I see fails, what's that all about?

                                  PS will upload some pics of the soldered bridge...

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                                  • rsachocR rsachoc

                                    Ok, so I messed up my previous sensor trying to solder the bridge (don't ask...) I have now (I think) soldered it and reconnected it, am now getting the following:

                                    Serial started
                                    Voltage: 3359 mV
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=fail:1.5.4
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=fail:0
                                    sensor started, id=132, parent=0, distance=1
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=15,sg=0,st=fail:EgTmpHumBat5min
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:1.0 151106
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                                    find parent
                                    send: 132-132-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
                                    send: 132-132-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                                    Node and 2 children presented.
                                    

                                    I'm going to try get everything on a breadboard, but now I see fails, what's that all about?

                                    PS will upload some pics of the soldered bridge...

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                                    @rsachoc google "mysensors st fail"

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                                      I am currently trying to use that red 3.3v module too and it doesn't seem to work. I have the sketch from above running with the "normal" blue module where I remove the voltage converter so that it works at 3.3V without a problem.
                                      Then I switched to the red one (with these small 3 solderpads connected) and the scl/sda lines switched (the order is different form the blue one) but the program gets stuck at the same position as above (without the st=fail's though). So I assume that

                                      si7021_env data = humiditySensor.getHumidityAndTemperature();
                                      

                                      fails. Does anyone have one of these sensors up and running? Any ideas where the error is? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the blue ones.

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                                        I am currently trying to use that red 3.3v module too and it doesn't seem to work. I have the sketch from above running with the "normal" blue module where I remove the voltage converter so that it works at 3.3V without a problem.
                                        Then I switched to the red one (with these small 3 solderpads connected) and the scl/sda lines switched (the order is different form the blue one) but the program gets stuck at the same position as above (without the st=fail's though). So I assume that

                                        si7021_env data = humiditySensor.getHumidityAndTemperature();
                                        

                                        fails. Does anyone have one of these sensors up and running? Any ideas where the error is? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the blue ones.

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                                        @LastSamurai
                                        The red ones are HTU21D and need another library (they are different from the SI7021).
                                        Use the Adafruit library for this module (look on their site for HTU21D).

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                                          @LastSamurai
                                          The red ones are HTU21D and need another library (they are different from the SI7021).
                                          Use the Adafruit library for this module (look on their site for HTU21D).

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                                          @GertSanders hmmm I think I'm using that same one as @LastSamurai so I suspect that's the issue? It's the one linked in the first post

                                          I guess if that's the problem it should have been obvious to me, it even says HTU21D on mine! Silly me!

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