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  • rsachocR rsachoc

    Some pictures anyway!

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    m26872
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    wrote on last edited by m26872
    #70

    @rsachoc Great with pictures! It looks like you haven't enabled the pull-up resistors by filling the solder jumpers in the middle of the board? Like this: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/3/f/6/5/a/52855764757b7f06478b4567.jpg

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    • m26872M m26872

      @rsachoc Great with pictures! It looks like you haven't enabled the pull-up resistors by filling the solder jumpers in the middle of the board? Like this: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/3/f/6/5/a/52855764757b7f06478b4567.jpg

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      @m26872 oh! I didn't realise I needed to do that, could that be the problem? Do I just need to fill with solder the bit just below where the DA and "-" is?

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      • rsachocR rsachoc

        @m26872 oh! I didn't realise I needed to do that, could that be the problem? Do I just need to fill with solder the bit just below where the DA and "-" is?

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        m26872
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        @rsachoc It's probably it. And yes, it's rigth there. Make sure all of the three small pads interconnect.

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        • m26872M m26872

          @rsachoc It's probably it. And yes, it's rigth there. Make sure all of the three small pads interconnect.

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          #73

          @m26872 thanks! No time tonight, but a job for testing tomorrow.

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            You could also use the 328 pullups! I had an unwilling Chinese light sensor (MAX44099) that drew a lot of power either with the VCC on or off. Since it's battery powered that is undesireable.

            I used digitalWrite(SDA, LOW); digitalWrite(SCL, LOW); to tie the bus to ground. When the sensor wakes up, it writes HIGH to those pins and the bus is back online. Used a 500ms wait after this to let the sensors stabilise.

            That sensor is now on a 6µA sleep current and a average 128µA over 2 hours measured with a 2 minute sleep cycle.

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              #75

              Tried it this evening, still no luck, let me see what I can get up to over the weekend.

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              • D DavidZH

                You could also use the 328 pullups! I had an unwilling Chinese light sensor (MAX44099) that drew a lot of power either with the VCC on or off. Since it's battery powered that is undesireable.

                I used digitalWrite(SDA, LOW); digitalWrite(SCL, LOW); to tie the bus to ground. When the sensor wakes up, it writes HIGH to those pins and the bus is back online. Used a 500ms wait after this to let the sensors stabilise.

                That sensor is now on a 6µA sleep current and a average 128µA over 2 hours measured with a 2 minute sleep cycle.

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                m26872
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                @DavidZH True, internal pull-ups (20k?) should probably be enough for the normal i2c use (short wires, low speed, etc). But I wonder if pull-ups are consuming any significant power during passive state like sleeping sensor. Of course it's a good solution in case there're issues preventing the bus from beeing silent. Or worse, pulled down continuously.
                What was your current before the change?
                I think 500ms awake is a lot.

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                • rsachocR rsachoc

                  Tried it this evening, still no luck, let me see what I can get up to over the weekend.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #77

                  @rsachoc Crap. Maybe it's something else then.:disappointed:

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                    I switch them off with a LOW write before the sensor goes to sleep and you're absolutely right about the wait time being very long. In this case I didn't mind because the sensor is powered by a solar panel.
                    I can't really remember what the exact value but it was an order of magnitude... I also used the voltage divider way to measure voltage because the Moteino has a regulator on board, so that upped the sleep current a little (10M resistor to keep the current low).

                    I went searching because the current went UP when I switched the power to the sensor off before sleep. Gammon.co.au is a very useful source, but I can't remember where I dug this hack up.
                    I will be making other battery sensors for inside with a HTU21d and I will post more on those in a 'My Project' mega gallery including measurements. (And dig around in the HTU datasheet for the start up time....)

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                      According to the datasheet the absolute maximum time to get ready is 80ms.

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                        Thanx! Saves me a trip! :grin:

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                          RTFM :-P

                          https://www.silabs.com/Support Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7021-A20.pdf

                          Page 5

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                            Ok, so I messed up my previous sensor trying to solder the bridge (don't ask...) I have now (I think) soldered it and reconnected it, am now getting the following:

                            Serial started
                            Voltage: 3359 mV
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=fail:1.5.4
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=fail:0
                            sensor started, id=132, parent=0, distance=1
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=15,sg=0,st=fail:EgTmpHumBat5min
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:1.0 151106
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                            find parent
                            send: 132-132-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
                            send: 132-132-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                            Node and 2 children presented.
                            

                            I'm going to try get everything on a breadboard, but now I see fails, what's that all about?

                            PS will upload some pics of the soldered bridge...

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                            • rsachocR rsachoc

                              Ok, so I messed up my previous sensor trying to solder the bridge (don't ask...) I have now (I think) soldered it and reconnected it, am now getting the following:

                              Serial started
                              Voltage: 3359 mV
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=2,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:0
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=fail:1.5.4
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=fail:0
                              sensor started, id=132, parent=0, distance=1
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=15,sg=0,st=fail:EgTmpHumBat5min
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=fail:1.0 151106
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                              find parent
                              send: 132-132-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=bc:
                              send: 132-132-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=fail:
                              Node and 2 children presented.
                              

                              I'm going to try get everything on a breadboard, but now I see fails, what's that all about?

                              PS will upload some pics of the soldered bridge...

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                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @rsachoc google "mysensors st fail"

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                                #84

                                I am currently trying to use that red 3.3v module too and it doesn't seem to work. I have the sketch from above running with the "normal" blue module where I remove the voltage converter so that it works at 3.3V without a problem.
                                Then I switched to the red one (with these small 3 solderpads connected) and the scl/sda lines switched (the order is different form the blue one) but the program gets stuck at the same position as above (without the st=fail's though). So I assume that

                                si7021_env data = humiditySensor.getHumidityAndTemperature();
                                

                                fails. Does anyone have one of these sensors up and running? Any ideas where the error is? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the blue ones.

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                                  I am currently trying to use that red 3.3v module too and it doesn't seem to work. I have the sketch from above running with the "normal" blue module where I remove the voltage converter so that it works at 3.3V without a problem.
                                  Then I switched to the red one (with these small 3 solderpads connected) and the scl/sda lines switched (the order is different form the blue one) but the program gets stuck at the same position as above (without the st=fail's though). So I assume that

                                  si7021_env data = humiditySensor.getHumidityAndTemperature();
                                  

                                  fails. Does anyone have one of these sensors up and running? Any ideas where the error is? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the blue ones.

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                                  @LastSamurai
                                  The red ones are HTU21D and need another library (they are different from the SI7021).
                                  Use the Adafruit library for this module (look on their site for HTU21D).

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                                  • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                    @LastSamurai
                                    The red ones are HTU21D and need another library (they are different from the SI7021).
                                    Use the Adafruit library for this module (look on their site for HTU21D).

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #86

                                    @GertSanders hmmm I think I'm using that same one as @LastSamurai so I suspect that's the issue? It's the one linked in the first post

                                    I guess if that's the problem it should have been obvious to me, it even says HTU21D on mine! Silly me!

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                                      @GertSanders hmmm I think I'm using that same one as @LastSamurai so I suspect that's the issue? It's the one linked in the first post

                                      I guess if that's the problem it should have been obvious to me, it even says HTU21D on mine! Silly me!

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                                      @rsachoc
                                      Either one of these libraries will work with the HTU21D modules.

                                      0_1463432234134_Screen Shot 2016-05-16 at 22.55.51.png

                                      Both modules do the same, but have different I2C adresses so you can actually use both at the same time (of you like to compare them), but you need different libraries to call each one.

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                                        @rsachoc
                                        Either one of these libraries will work with the HTU21D modules.

                                        0_1463432234134_Screen Shot 2016-05-16 at 22.55.51.png

                                        Both modules do the same, but have different I2C adresses so you can actually use both at the same time (of you like to compare them), but you need different libraries to call each one.

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                                        #88

                                        @GertSanders Thanks, I don't know why I didn't realize that ;)
                                        I will try that out tomorrow.

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                                        • L LastSamurai

                                          @GertSanders Thanks, I don't know why I didn't realize that ;)
                                          I will try that out tomorrow.

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                                          #89

                                          @LastSamurai I'm having a go as well at updating the .ino file with the different library, but I'm not a coder so I'm "having a hack" - if you have any luck could you post your code?

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