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    kr0815
    wrote on last edited by kr0815
    #3

    Hello Hek,

    thanks a lot for your answer, i hopefully wasn´t to harsh ?

    When do you expect 2.0.0 to come out ? Maybe it makes more sense for me to wait and put the project aside till then?

    I didn´t want to change to the developer version, no need for the extra features, all i wanted was one / some wifi gateways because i have some positions in the house i couldn´t cover with wired gateways - and especially for the wifi gateway many people here said go with the dev version, it solves a lot of problems.
    That´s where the problems started then, the mixture between old and new doesn´t work well in the arduino IDE.
    Also some older examples here in the forum, i can´t use because i get compiling errors with the new developer version

    I try to investigate further - so are the 1.5 version and the 2.0 dev compatible regarding already existing sensors ?
    ( I have to confess Arduino IDE makes it even worse, even when installing the portable version, it uses files from wherever...)

    As you are speaking about stabilty problems regarding the Wifi-Gateway - i was thinking i made some faults, tried almost everything, but as i have many of the ESP8266 running without any problems with ESP-Easy, i couldn´t make that much faults regarding power supply and such things
    (Easy thing to try , dev. Wifi Gateway, just connected to a putty sesion, dev relais sketch, as soon as powering the relais node on, it will crash)

    So would you or others here suggest to use the wifi client at the moment, or better wait ?

    At the moment, at germen FHEM Forum, some ordered about 100 PCBs to build Wifi Gateways, at the moment they are sending the first out, sounds stupid but i´d be lucky if they all work and i know a have to find the fault in my doing

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      hek
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      #4

      Mostly a structural thing left before the release of 2.0 (so the library can be downloaded directly from the Arduino Library Manager).
      So I suggest you try to use it.

      1.5 and 2.0 sensors should be compatible over the air.

      If the relays are connected directly to gateway it sounds like a powering issue. Do you have the same problem if you try removing the relay and run the same command?

      If the relay is attached to some other node and the gateway crash when you try to turn it on over the air, it sounds like a bug.

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        kr0815
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        #5

        Not really something for feature request, more trouble shooting...

        But the relay sensor was just an example, not connected to the gateway, node by itself.
        I don´t even have to switch the relay - just the Wifi Gateway running, connected to putty
        As soon as a sensor sends his startup message, Wifi Gateway crashes, no longer reachable

        I´d be really happy if someone could try it, maybe it´s still my fault:
        Power Up Wifi Gateway, then power up relay node ( both dev version) , i think it has something to do because relay node is also a repeater ?

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          hek
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          #6

          Ok, I just verified your setup on the latest dev branch.

          • Uploaded the relay sketch on a node (unmodified).
          • Flashed an esp with attached NRF-radio (static ip).
          > telnet 192.168.178.87 5003
          Trying 192.168.178.87...
          Connected to 192.168.178.87.
          Escape character is '^]'.
          0;255;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
          2;255;0;0;18;2.0.0-beta
          2;255;3;0;6;0
          2;255;3;0;11;Relay
          2;255;3;0;12;1.0
          2;1;0;0;3;
          

          And the same time on the gateway while powering up the relay node.

          ip:192.168.178.87,mask:255.255.255.0,gw:192.168.178.1
          .IP: 192.168.178.87
          0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0
          pm open,type:2 0
          0;255;3;0;9;Client 0 connected
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
          0;255;3;0;9;send: 0-0-2-2 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0:2.0.0-beta
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,sg=0:Relay
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0:1.0
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=255,c=2,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=1,c=3,t=8,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:23.5
          0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=2,l=2,sg=0:40
          

          No crashes or nothing. It even picked up another sensebender module reporting temperature.

          The only difference I can see is that you use putty to connect.

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          • hekH hek

            Ok, I just verified your setup on the latest dev branch.

            • Uploaded the relay sketch on a node (unmodified).
            • Flashed an esp with attached NRF-radio (static ip).
            > telnet 192.168.178.87 5003
            Trying 192.168.178.87...
            Connected to 192.168.178.87.
            Escape character is '^]'.
            0;255;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
            2;255;0;0;18;2.0.0-beta
            2;255;3;0;6;0
            2;255;3;0;11;Relay
            2;255;3;0;12;1.0
            2;1;0;0;3;
            

            And the same time on the gateway while powering up the relay node.

            ip:192.168.178.87,mask:255.255.255.0,gw:192.168.178.1
            .IP: 192.168.178.87
            0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0
            pm open,type:2 0
            0;255;3;0;9;Client 0 connected
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
            0;255;3;0;9;send: 0-0-2-2 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=10,sg=0:2.0.0-beta
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,sg=0:Relay
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0:1.0
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=255,c=2,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:75
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=1,c=3,t=8,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:23.5
            0;255;3;0;9;read: 4-4-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=2,l=2,sg=0:40
            

            No crashes or nothing. It even picked up another sensebender module reporting temperature.

            The only difference I can see is that you use putty to connect.

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            martinhjelmare
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            wrote on last edited by martinhjelmare
            #7

            @hek

            The second and third lines from the end of the last log don't make sense to me. Sensor 255 requests temperature, payload 75? Sensor 1 internal message parent response 23.5?

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              hek
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              #8

              @martinhjelmare said:

              The second and third lines from the end of the last log don't make sense to me. Sensor 255 requests temperature, payload 75? Sensor 1 internal message parent response 23.5?

              Yes, strange. I suspect it is some trace of my "production" serial gateway (on the same freq) that is doing hardware acks while the esp node is listening to all of this (and also acks the same message). Hmm.. I should probably have turned the serial gw off before the test to get a cleaner log.

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                kr0815
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                Hello Hek,

                thanks a lot for all the effort trying to help me

                Thats what the relay node gives me when plugging in power:

                Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                Radio init successful.
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                read: 0-0-100 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:Relay
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,st=ok:1.0
                send: 100-100-0-0 s=1,c=0,t=3,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,st=ok:
                Init complete, id=100, parent=0, distance=1
                

                Thats what the Gateway logs, after that it´s unreachable

                0;255;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
                100;255;0;0;17;2.0.0-beta
                100;255;3;0;6;0
                

                That´s the serial output of the gateway, 111 is another node:

                0;255;3;0;9;Radio init successful.
                ....scandone
                state: 0 -> 2 (b0)
                .state: 2 -> 3 (0)
                state: 3 -> 5 (10)
                add 0
                aid 7
                pm open phy_2,type:2 0 0
                cnt 
                
                connected with Power-LAN, channel 6
                dhcp client start...
                chg_B:-60
                ...ip:192.168.178.90,mask:255.255.255.0,gw:192.168.178.1
                .IP: 192.168.178.90
                0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 111-111-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:0
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 111-111-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:1
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 111-111-0 s=1,c=1,t=16,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:0
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 100-100-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
                0;255;3;0;9;send: 0-0-100-100 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=fail:
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 100-100-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0:2.0.0-beta
                0;255;3;0;9;read: 100-100-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                0;255;3;0;9;read and forward: 0-0-100 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0
                

                strange you don´t have this "read and forward" message ?

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                  hek
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                  wrote on last edited by hek
                  #10

                  Looks like the second fast consecutive send kills the gateway. What measures have you taken to ensure ESP/radio powering?

                  What type of NRF radio are you using?

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                    kr0815
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                    #11

                    I tried many things regarding power supply, 47uF and 100nF both on the ESP and NRF, even feeded it with a good laboratory power supply (max 3A).
                    I can´t imagine it´s a power problem, but could try tonight to even feed them with different power sources ?

                    But i found a similar thread / same problem:
                    http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3012/packet-freezes-wifi-gateway-esp8266

                    But i don´t use any bootloader

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                      kr0815
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                      #12

                      So just to be totally sure and to help me and hopefully others, i did the following:

                      I feeded ESP and NRF from different power supplys-result is still the same, ESP hangs, no response

                      The Power supply of the ESP is the same as i use for many ESP-Easy-Projects, i even flashed ESP-Easy on these 2 boards i try to get the MySensors-Gateway running, no problems

                      You asked which nRF i use - they are from china :-) different sellers, different looking, some with external antenna, all the same results

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                        #13

                        I've tried to stress test again here but I still cannot reproduce the hangs.

                        Are you using this gateway sketch:
                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development/libraries/MySensors/examples/GatewayW5100

                        And this Relay sketch:
                        https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development/libraries/MySensors/examples/RelayActuator

                        Unmodified (except for WLAN SSID)?

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                          kr0815
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                          #14

                          The second one yes, but the first one, i´m not using a Ethernet Gateway, but a Wifi Gateway with the ESP8266

                          that´s the one i use: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/development/libraries/MySensors/examples/GatewayESP8266
                          nothing modified, even still with DHCP

                          I also have a Ethernet Gateway, which is running since months, the problems started with the Wifi / ESP Gateway

                          Could you maybe have a look at the link above ? In this thread, Yveaux asked you for some help, maybe tha´t the point the problem comes from ?

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                            #15

                            Yes, I meant GatewayESP8266 ;)

                            I don't get the "read and forward" print at all. Even when sending out a command to the node (from telnet/nc).

                            I guess you've updated library to the latest and ESP as well in Board Manager?

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                              kr0815
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                              #16

                              Yes, i erased and downloaded everything new 2 days ago

                              Did you see the other forum post ?

                              Really strange problem, i´d say i have a fake chip or something, but as it´s working with ESPEasy, i can´t imagine...

                              In Board manager, i´m using 2.0, should i also go to the developer version ?

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                                #17

                                Yes, really strange. Just wish I could reproduce. Make things much easier to debug!

                                I'm using 2.1.0-rc2 of the esp.

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                                  kr0815
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                                  #18

                                  Could maybe someone upload the compiled binary ? Just to check all possible faults ?
                                  The needed settings are:

                                  • With DHCP
                                  • SSID Power-LAN
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                                    drock1985
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                                    #19

                                    Hi @hek

                                    Thank you again for all the work you and the team do for the MySensors community - maybe we can help back? I read your post, and understand the family and full time job - it's two careers. Maybe if there was a community Wiki that we all could help maintain - this way when things change they are instantly updated?

                                    Just throwing it out there.

                                    My Projects
                                    2 Door Chime Sensor
                                    Washing Machine Monitor

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                                      kr0815
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                                      #20

                                      Hello Hek,

                                      i just saw in the german FHEM Forum, somebody has exactly the same Problems as me - but when switching back to the old / regular version, it works as expected, except the other problem with the long values.
                                      SO it musst be a software thing, nothing hardware related

                                      But as it is really strange you don´t get this problen, did any body else see it ?

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                                        hek
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                                        #21

                                        If you can reproduce this, It would be helpful if you could start adding debug prints in the library code to locate where it hangs to narrow down things.

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                                          kr0815
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                                          #22

                                          Hello Hek,

                                          thank you so much to try to help me - i found the problem now and i guess it´s the same problem many others have here:
                                          On almost all ESP12 GPIO 4 and 5 are labeled wrong
                                          I didn´t use a NodeMCU, but one of the other available boards

                                          As the CE pin is then connected to the wrong GPIO, it seems to work, Radio init ok, but as soon as the gateway sends something, it crashes

                                          Here are some interesting posts about that:
                                          https://github.com/esp8266/Arduino/issues/437

                                          Maybe you should ad this notice to the build-section for the wifi gateway ?

                                          Best regards

                                          Klaus

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