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Yet another PCB to address (nearly) all Arduino pins

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  • GertSandersG Offline
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    GertSanders
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    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    A7 is an analog input only pin. So connecting a LED will not work. In the MySensor library the atsha204a is expected on A3.

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      #5

      Does the layout survive a design rule check ?

      The pads of the 1.27" pinheaders seem very close to each other.

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        phil83
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        #6

        Hey guys,

        many thanks so far, I will incorporate TD's ideas tomorrow.
        For the A7, many thanks to Gert! Only A0-A5 can be used as digital pins so I will change this!
        Design rule check was fine.

        Thanks again and have a nice evening,
        Philipp

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          phil83
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          #7

          So this could be an updates pin assignment:

          Arduino Pin/ Function/ Pinhead
          0/ RXI/ not used
          1/ TXO/ not used
          2/ D2/ NRF24 / Pinhead 1 / Button (via jumper)
          3/ D3/ Pinhead 1
          4/ D4/ Pinhead 2
          5/ D5/ Pinhead ISP
          6/ D6/ LED
          7/ D7/ LED
          8/ D8/ 25AA256
          9/ D9/ NRF24
          10/ D10/ NRF24
          11/ MOSI/ Pinhead ISP
          12/ MISO/ Pinhead ISP
          13/ SCK/ Pinhead ISP
          A0/ A0/ Voltage divider
          A1/ A1/ Dallas 18B20
          A2/ A2/ Pinhead 2
          A3/ A3/ Pinhead ISP
          A4/ SDA/ Pinhead I2C
          A5/ SCL/ Pinhead I2C
          A6/ A6/ Pinhead 2
          A7/ A7/ Pinhead 1

          What do you think?
          Best regards,
          Philipp

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          • tbowmoT Offline
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            #8

            like @mfalkvidd asked.. Have you seen the MYSX connector? A "standardized" connector for mysensors platform..

            https://github.com/mysensors-kicad/documentation/blob/master/TheMYSXconnector.pdf

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              #9

              Regarding the MYSX connector, I have seen the specification before but for me the 2.54mm pinheads are way to big since I wanted to have a really small board that I can also use for quite small sensors (window open for example). I changed some connections and came up with that scheme now:
              0_1456052963816_mini sensor v6.png

              I added the caps for the ICs, many thanks again for the hint!
              Philipp

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                Hi there,

                I had some more time to work on it and I rearranged the parts on the board. One question for me is how big to make the drill holes for mounting? Is 2mm ok?

                0_1456510649033_v6.1.png
                0_1456510664572_v6.1scheme.png

                I will clean up the silk screen writings the weekend and then send it out to China :-)

                Many thanks so far,
                best regards,
                Philipp

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                • TD22057T Offline
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                  #11

                  You can find Eagle parts for M2, M2.5, M3 drill holes with tight and loose clearance in my Eagle parts library. I created the parts from this blog page.

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                    phil83
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    Hi TD,
                    many thanks for the library, I incorporated the drill holes and it looks much better now!

                    0_1456571043915_mini sensor v6.2.png

                    Best regards,
                    Philipp

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                    • P phil83

                      Hi TD,
                      many thanks for the library, I incorporated the drill holes and it looks much better now!

                      0_1456571043915_mini sensor v6.2.png

                      Best regards,
                      Philipp

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                      vikasjee
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                      #13

                      @phil83 said:

                      Hi TD,
                      many thanks for the library, I incorporated the drill holes and it looks much better now!

                      0_1456571043915_mini sensor v6.2.png

                      Best regards,
                      Philipp

                      HI Philipp,

                      Will you like to share your files with this final version of your PCB? This is an excellent stuff. Appreciate your design skills...

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                      • P phil83

                        Hi TD,
                        many thanks for the library, I incorporated the drill holes and it looks much better now!

                        0_1456571043915_mini sensor v6.2.png

                        Best regards,
                        Philipp

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                        GertSanders
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @phil83 If small is the target, use the SMD version of the NRF24L01+. Here is a small NRF24 library.

                        0_1456596545540_NRF24L01plus.lbr

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                          tbowmo
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                          #15

                          @phil83

                          Nice board, but still would suggest MYSX.. It's got different variants, with more / less pins available..

                          I'm playing around with a boardlayout that's 18x30mm, with MYSX connector, and nrf24 (SMD) the NRF will protrude over one end of the board with ~5-7mm (Antenna area). so total length will be 18x37mm (or something in that area).

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                            TD22057
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                            #16

                            One more tip: If you want to order a full 10x10 cm board, you can panelize them yourself and use https://github.com/p12tic/eagle-brd-merge to get around the 10x8 limit in the free version of Eagle. Worked great for my mother/daughter board order.

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                              phil83
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                              #17

                              Hi all,
                              many thanks for all the valuable input!
                              I will share my files after having tested the board by myself for the first time!

                              @GertSanders: I've never thought about using the SMD version of NRF24L01, it really looks interesting!

                              @tbowmo: Your board size is really impressive, are you also using the EEPROM and ATSHA on that small size board?

                              The smallest and still (hopefully) manufacturable for me seems to be around 44x21mm...
                              0_1456693207843_micro sensor v1.1.png
                              Right now I'm waiting for all of the parts of my reflow oven, I have some boards for testing here and in case I'm successful with reflowing, I will order new boards in China.

                              Best regards,
                              Philipp

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                                phil83
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                                #18

                                @TD22057: My dealer in China does some panelization for me as well, last time I ordered 20 board (size about 25x45mm) and I received 42... That was more than fine for me. But thanks for the link!

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                                  tbowmo
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @phil83

                                  It's complete with external flash (for OTA), atsha204, voltage regulator, 2 led's and a Si7021. Using 0603 smd components though.. (And it only got components on one side..)

                                  Still working on some details, before publishing it though...

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                                    phil83
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                                    @tbowmo: Sounds very impressive, chapeau! I'm looking forward to seeing your design when it is finished!

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                                      @tbowmo I have been working on a similar board. The matter of external connections for switches and external sensors keeps me busy. The 1,27 mm spaced headers seem like a possible solution. But I have not found any female headers with wires (Dupont style) to go with the male versions. How do you solve the connection problem ?

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                                        @GertSanders: On aliexpress you can find sets of male and female 1.25mm connectors, do you think about something like that:
                                        http://de.aliexpress.com/item/20sets-Micro-1-25mm-5pin-Cable-JST-1-25-5-Pin-Male-Female-Connector-plug-with/32464250609.html?spm=2114.010208.3.2.BMcTZF&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_9,searchweb201644_5_505_506_503_504_301_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10006_10011_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_2,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6448&btsid=8ded8c25-db33-49ed-835b-307cb83c0f47

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                                          #23

                                          As I read your post again, you mean something like this:
                                          http://de.aliexpress.com/item/5-sets-Double-Row-Female-Socket-SMD-2-10-20pin-1-27mm-Pin-Header-connector/32542921161.html?isOrigTitle=true

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