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💬 MySensors Stable Node

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  • hensingH Offline
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    hensing
    wrote on last edited by
    #87

    @Sander-Teunissen you can modify the motion sensor to work on 3.3V (see http://www.instructables.com/id/Convert-a-5v-PIR-Motion-Sensor-to-33v-for-ESP8266/)

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      #88

      @Koresh can you give us an ETA of the sensor? I'm looking forward to buy some :)

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      • TigroenotT Offline
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        #89

        Hi,
        I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
        60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
        60112 TSM:INIT
        60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
        60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
        60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

        Any suggestions?

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        • TigroenotT Tigroenot

          Hi,
          I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
          60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
          60112 TSM:INIT
          60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
          60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
          60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

          Any suggestions?

          KoreshK Offline
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          Koresh
          Contest Winner
          wrote on last edited by
          #90

          @Tigroenot said:

          Hi,
          I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
          60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
          60112 TSM:INIT
          60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
          60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
          60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

          Any suggestions?

          For not the + version you should mount 1M resistor (R21). And check all soldering points of course.

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          • TigroenotT Offline
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            Tigroenot
            wrote on last edited by
            #91

            I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

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            • TigroenotT Tigroenot

              I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

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              Koresh
              Contest Winner
              wrote on last edited by
              #92

              @Tigroenot said:

              I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

              You can easily solder THD resistor in parallel with Q2 ;)

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                wrote on last edited by
                #93

                @Koresh Did that. No luck.

                0 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RNNNA--,VER=2.1.0-beta
                4 TSM:INIT
                4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                12 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                14 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                16 TSM:FAIL:PDT

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                • TigroenotT Offline
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                  Tigroenot
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #94

                  Allright, I have replaced the nrf chips to those with + and... that was it, everything is working very well now :)
                  Here they are, freshly handmade :)
                  0_1482501760704_IMG_20161223_58958.jpg

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                  • TigroenotT Tigroenot

                    Allright, I have replaced the nrf chips to those with + and... that was it, everything is working very well now :)
                    Here they are, freshly handmade :)
                    0_1482501760704_IMG_20161223_58958.jpg

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                    Koresh
                    Contest Winner
                    wrote on last edited by Koresh
                    #95

                    @Tigroenot
                    I'm really happy to see your success with these boards. Congratulations! :thumbsup:

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                    • qqlapralineQ Offline
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                      qqlapraline
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #96

                      Very nice design ! I wish it was available for sale !

                      I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

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                      • qqlapralineQ qqlapraline

                        Very nice design ! I wish it was available for sale !

                        I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

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                        Koresh
                        Contest Winner
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #97

                        @qqlapraline Thanks for your attention to this project. A small batch of these boards is ready. Boards are under tests (individually) and almost ready for sale. Unfortunatelly I have "small" technical troubles with ebay :anguished: but hope to solve them soon. Otherwise you will be able to buy them via paypal directly soon :wink:
                        0_1492811175813_IMG_2017-04-21_094942_r.jpg

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                          wrote on last edited by qqlapraline
                          #98

                          @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                          I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                          (I love to quote myself :grin: )

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                          • qqlapralineQ qqlapraline

                            @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                            I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                            (I love to quote myself :grin: )

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                            Koresh
                            Contest Winner
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                            #99

                            @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                            @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                            I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                            (I love to quote myself :grin: )

                            I saw your question the first time, but it is a relatively hard question so I read documentation before writing the answer. I think this is a not good idea, very many inconsistencies. First, NRF24L01+ chip has a requirement:

                            Input crystal amplitude and current consumption
                            The input signal should not have amplitudes exceeding any rail voltage. Exceeding rail voltage excites the
                            ESD structure and consequently, the radio performance degrades below specification. You must use an
                            external DC block if you are testing the nRF24L01+ with a reference source that has no DC offset (which is
                            usual with a RF source).

                            If you want to be able to share atmega's crystal you must use Full Swing Crystal Oscillator mode (by default arduino uses Low Power Crystal Oscillator mode). You can set this mode without any problems via fuses, but in this case you can't power atmega from 5V (according nrf24L01+ requirement).

                            However in this case you can't use 16Mhz crystal because 3.3v/16Mhz is overclocked mode for the atmega 328p (I do not say your device will not work, I say atmel do not garantee stability in this case)

                            As you can see on the latest photo, I didn't solder atmega328p crystals at all and the chip uses an internal oscillator and is powered from 5V :)

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                              Koresh
                              Contest Winner
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #100

                              Unfortunately I can't open my ebay shop right now. While I'm trying to open it, you can buy this board here: https://www.ebid.net/eu/for-sale/arduino-ide-compatible-controller-with-the-nordic-nrf24l01-radio-transceiver-156695123.htm

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                              • KoreshK Koresh

                                Unfortunately I can't open my ebay shop right now. While I'm trying to open it, you can buy this board here: https://www.ebid.net/eu/for-sale/arduino-ide-compatible-controller-with-the-nordic-nrf24l01-radio-transceiver-156695123.htm

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #101

                                @koresh is it still possible to purchase this board? The ebid link doesn't work anymore.

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                                  deepak
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #102

                                  @koresh is it still available for purchase? I tried the link that you posted i couldn't find there

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                                    reinhold
                                    Hardware Contributor
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                                    #103

                                    I'm wondering what the minimum input voltage is. The description only says max. 6.5V input voltage from the battery, but does not say what the minimum is. Both the nrf24l01+ as well as the atmega328P work with 3.3V, so if I use three AA batteries, that should be fine, right? I suppose using two AA batteries is not enough?

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