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💬 MySensors Stable Node

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  • Sander TeunissenS Sander Teunissen

    @Koresh I guess I already know the answer, but this board works with 3.3 volts ? If I want to connect something like this:
    https://www.mysensors.org/build/motion ,which works only on 5V I'd need to add a step up converter ?

    Sander.

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    Koresh
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    wrote on last edited by Koresh
    #86

    @Sander-Teunissen said:

    @Koresh I guess I already know the answer, but this board works with 3.3 volts ? If I want to connect something like this:
    https://www.mysensors.org/build/motion ,which works only on 5V I'd need to add a step up converter ?

    Sander.

    Board contains two 3.3v LDO. You can change one of them to 5v (do not forget check schematic).

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      #87

      @Sander-Teunissen you can modify the motion sensor to work on 3.3V (see http://www.instructables.com/id/Convert-a-5v-PIR-Motion-Sensor-to-33v-for-ESP8266/)

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        hensing
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        #88

        @Koresh can you give us an ETA of the sensor? I'm looking forward to buy some :)

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          Tigroenot
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          #89

          Hi,
          I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
          60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
          60112 TSM:INIT
          60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
          60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
          60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

          Any suggestions?

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          • TigroenotT Tigroenot

            Hi,
            I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
            60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            60112 TSM:INIT
            60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
            60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
            60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

            Any suggestions?

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            Koresh
            Contest Winner
            wrote on last edited by
            #90

            @Tigroenot said:

            Hi,
            I aasembled your node, but the radio chip version is not the + one. After burning the MYS bootloader is prints the debug in serial:
            60110 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            60112 TSM:INIT
            60119 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
            60123 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
            60125 TSM:FAIL:PDT

            Any suggestions?

            For not the + version you should mount 1M resistor (R21). And check all soldering points of course.

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              #91

              I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

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              • TigroenotT Tigroenot

                I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

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                Koresh
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                wrote on last edited by
                #92

                @Tigroenot said:

                I checked everything twice of course. I don't have 0402 1M resistor, the smallest I have is 0805 :)

                You can easily solder THD resistor in parallel with Q2 ;)

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #93

                  @Koresh Did that. No luck.

                  0 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RNNNA--,VER=2.1.0-beta
                  4 TSM:INIT
                  4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                  12 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                  14 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                  16 TSM:FAIL:PDT

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                    Tigroenot
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #94

                    Allright, I have replaced the nrf chips to those with + and... that was it, everything is working very well now :)
                    Here they are, freshly handmade :)
                    0_1482501760704_IMG_20161223_58958.jpg

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                    • TigroenotT Tigroenot

                      Allright, I have replaced the nrf chips to those with + and... that was it, everything is working very well now :)
                      Here they are, freshly handmade :)
                      0_1482501760704_IMG_20161223_58958.jpg

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                      Koresh
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                      wrote on last edited by Koresh
                      #95

                      @Tigroenot
                      I'm really happy to see your success with these boards. Congratulations! :thumbsup:

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                        qqlapraline
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #96

                        Very nice design ! I wish it was available for sale !

                        I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

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                        • qqlapralineQ qqlapraline

                          Very nice design ! I wish it was available for sale !

                          I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

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                          Koresh
                          Contest Winner
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #97

                          @qqlapraline Thanks for your attention to this project. A small batch of these boards is ready. Boards are under tests (individually) and almost ready for sale. Unfortunatelly I have "small" technical troubles with ebay :anguished: but hope to solve them soon. Otherwise you will be able to buy them via paypal directly soon :wink:
                          0_1492811175813_IMG_2017-04-21_094942_r.jpg

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                            #98

                            @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                            I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                            (I love to quote myself :grin: )

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                            • qqlapralineQ qqlapraline

                              @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                              I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                              (I love to quote myself :grin: )

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                              #99

                              @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                              @qqlapraline said in 💬 MySensors Stable Node:

                              I have a question, though. Would it make sense to mutualize the Crystal between the NRF and the Atmel ?

                              (I love to quote myself :grin: )

                              I saw your question the first time, but it is a relatively hard question so I read documentation before writing the answer. I think this is a not good idea, very many inconsistencies. First, NRF24L01+ chip has a requirement:

                              Input crystal amplitude and current consumption
                              The input signal should not have amplitudes exceeding any rail voltage. Exceeding rail voltage excites the
                              ESD structure and consequently, the radio performance degrades below specification. You must use an
                              external DC block if you are testing the nRF24L01+ with a reference source that has no DC offset (which is
                              usual with a RF source).

                              If you want to be able to share atmega's crystal you must use Full Swing Crystal Oscillator mode (by default arduino uses Low Power Crystal Oscillator mode). You can set this mode without any problems via fuses, but in this case you can't power atmega from 5V (according nrf24L01+ requirement).

                              However in this case you can't use 16Mhz crystal because 3.3v/16Mhz is overclocked mode for the atmega 328p (I do not say your device will not work, I say atmel do not garantee stability in this case)

                              As you can see on the latest photo, I didn't solder atmega328p crystals at all and the chip uses an internal oscillator and is powered from 5V :)

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                                Koresh
                                Contest Winner
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #100

                                Unfortunately I can't open my ebay shop right now. While I'm trying to open it, you can buy this board here: https://www.ebid.net/eu/for-sale/arduino-ide-compatible-controller-with-the-nordic-nrf24l01-radio-transceiver-156695123.htm

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                                • KoreshK Koresh

                                  Unfortunately I can't open my ebay shop right now. While I'm trying to open it, you can buy this board here: https://www.ebid.net/eu/for-sale/arduino-ide-compatible-controller-with-the-nordic-nrf24l01-radio-transceiver-156695123.htm

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #101

                                  @koresh is it still possible to purchase this board? The ebid link doesn't work anymore.

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                                    deepak
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #102

                                    @koresh is it still available for purchase? I tried the link that you posted i couldn't find there

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                                      #103

                                      I'm wondering what the minimum input voltage is. The description only says max. 6.5V input voltage from the battery, but does not say what the minimum is. Both the nrf24l01+ as well as the atmega328P work with 3.3V, so if I use three AA batteries, that should be fine, right? I suppose using two AA batteries is not enough?

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