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Battery based atmega328p sensor with SMD nrf24l01+

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  • alexsh1A alexsh1

    @GertSanders Can you please summarise the difference between V3 and V4 please?

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    @alexsh1
    In V3 I had two optional pull up resistors for pins D2 and D3.
    In V4 I only have 1 pull up resistor for D2. But I gained space to add extra pins so that I have the 6 pin ISP layout included in the extention connector.
    All the rest remained the same.
    I uploaded the schematic to Openhardware.io (I think).

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      I have just noticed you have the INT solderpad. What is it for please?

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      • alexsh1A alexsh1

        I have just noticed you have the INT solderpad. What is it for please?

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        @alexsh1
        This is in the V3 version only.
        That solderpad allows you to connect the INT pin on the NRF24L01+ to pin 2 of the ATMEGA328p. IF the software would allow it, you could then have the radio wake up the atmega328 via a hardware interrupt.

        This is not used in MySensors, but could be used for direct communication via the RF24 library.

        This solderpad is available in v3, but I removed it from v4, because I also do not use this interrupt capability in my sensors (all based on MySensors library).

        It would make sense if the connector would allow an RF6x radio, but the SMD version has a specific connector layout, so no point to cater for possible INT use in my view.

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          alexsh1
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          @GertSanders Thanks - I was wondering why you had it as it is not supposed by MySensors, but knowing your "board style" this hardly should come as a surprise - you really try to account for any eventuality. :+1:

          EDIT: Was just browsing the boards looking for a new board for the GW.
          I think its time to publish your board under the name of Gertino or something :)
          Just an idea

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            @GertSanders Did you try EEPROM or ATSHA204a? I have got AT25512N-SH-T SOIC-8 which is slightly different one compare to your BOM and I wonder if this would be fine.

            I also have a few 8 pins ATSHA204a, but they are not suitable for MySensors and 3 pin version is in post.

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @GertSanders Did you try EEPROM or ATSHA204a? I have got AT25512N-SH-T SOIC-8 which is slightly different one compare to your BOM and I wonder if this would be fine.

              I also have a few 8 pins ATSHA204a, but they are not suitable for MySensors and 3 pin version is in post.

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              @alexsh1

              Nope, I did not yet try the Flash memory, nor the ATSHA204. I did received some three-pin versions recently, so I could try. But my gateways is directly a raspberry, not an atmega328 based one, so signed messages are not (yet) supported. For flash memory I'm in the same predicament as other contributors here. I can buy them from Mouser , but 20 USD for transport kills the idea of buying only 5 pcs.

              I would like to participate in a group buy. Maybe an idea for the meetup in Breda next month.

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                @alexsh1

                Nope, I did not yet try the Flash memory, nor the ATSHA204. I did received some three-pin versions recently, so I could try. But my gateways is directly a raspberry, not an atmega328 based one, so signed messages are not (yet) supported. For flash memory I'm in the same predicament as other contributors here. I can buy them from Mouser , but 20 USD for transport kills the idea of buying only 5 pcs.

                I would like to participate in a group buy. Maybe an idea for the meetup in Breda next month.

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                @GertSanders Count me in for a group buy - excellent idea :+1:

                Do you think the IC I have (AT25512N-SH-T SOIC-8) would be working with your board?

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @GertSanders Count me in for a group buy - excellent idea :+1:

                  Do you think the IC I have (AT25512N-SH-T SOIC-8) would be working with your board?

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                  @alexsh1
                  Really no idea. Someone with knowledge of the dual-optiboot workings should be able to confirm this.
                  I have some Winbond flash memory, but did not yet have time to do a test yet (other projects are asking for priority).

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                    @GertSanders ATSHA204A is working fine on your node. I finally have built a full node with ATSHA204A and SPI EEPROM.

                    Starting sensor (RNONAA, 2.0.0-beta)
                    Radio init successful.
                    Pressure Sensor1.1isMetric: 1
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.40
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:114
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=4,t=0,pt=6,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0300
                    Signing required
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                    Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
                    Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                    read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
                    Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
                    Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                    Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                    read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                    Signing backend: ATSHA204
                    SHA256: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B5-�¶
                    Transmittng nonce
                    send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,-�ÖÖ139
                    Current nonce: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B54D5B963B84E9AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                    HMAC: 78E50639CF4048466816DD0CD92E3B21BF--�j-�]
                    Signature OK
                    
                    
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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @GertSanders ATSHA204A is working fine on your node. I finally have built a full node with ATSHA204A and SPI EEPROM.

                      Starting sensor (RNONAA, 2.0.0-beta)
                      Radio init successful.
                      Pressure Sensor1.1isMetric: 1
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.40
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:114
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=4,t=0,pt=6,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0300
                      Signing required
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                      Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
                      Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                      read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
                      Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
                      Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                      Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                      read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                      Signing backend: ATSHA204
                      SHA256: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B5-�¶
                      Transmittng nonce
                      send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,-�ÖÖ139
                      Current nonce: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B54D5B963B84E9AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                      HMAC: 78E50639CF4048466816DD0CD92E3B21BF--�j-�]
                      Signature OK
                      
                      
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                      @alexsh1
                      Excellent !!!

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @GertSanders ATSHA204A is working fine on your node. I finally have built a full node with ATSHA204A and SPI EEPROM.

                        Starting sensor (RNONAA, 2.0.0-beta)
                        Radio init successful.
                        Pressure Sensor1.1isMetric: 1
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=2,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,st=ok:3.40
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:114
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=4,t=0,pt=6,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0300
                        Signing required
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0,st=ok:
                        Waiting for GW to send signing preferences...
                        Skipping security for command 3 type 15
                        read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=0,l=2,sg=0:
                        Mark node 0 as one that do not require signed messages
                        Mark node 0 as one that do not require whitelisting
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=10,sg=0,st=ok:2.0.0-beta
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,st=ok:0
                        Skipping security for command 3 type 16
                        read: 0-0-12 s=255,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                        Signing backend: ATSHA204
                        SHA256: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B5-�¶
                        Transmittng nonce
                        send: 12-12-0-0 s=255,-�ÖÖ139
                        Current nonce: A8457C04B9E7BAD1DC89908CB0127583D783B54D5B963B84E9AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                        HMAC: 78E50639CF4048466816DD0CD92E3B21BF--�j-�]
                        Signature OK
                        
                        
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                        @alexsh1 Can you please publish your full node design (SCH+BRD) or/and PDFs with ATSHA204A and SPI EEPROM? I am really interested in checking it out! Also the relevant sketch to understand how the battery operations are really supported esp. with interrupt handler et al.

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                          @alexsh1 Can you please publish your full node design (SCH+BRD) or/and PDFs with ATSHA204A and SPI EEPROM? I am really interested in checking it out! Also the relevant sketch to understand how the battery operations are really supported esp. with interrupt handler et al.

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                          @vikasjee
                          Alex used the hardware described at the start of this thread.
                          You will find all design documents on Openhardware.io

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