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42v LED dimmer

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  • SweebeeS Offline
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    #2

    The example you posted uses a irlz44n. According the data sheet it can handle 55v, so that should work. To power the arduino you can look for a stepdown module.

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      #3

      But maybe the arduino input on the RAW ports ?
      I think i need some Step Down dc-dc convertor for this

      There's more than meets the eye

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        @the-cosmic-gate said:

        But maybe the arduino input on the RAW ports ?
        I think i need some Step Down dc-dc convertor for this

        Yes - you do. Ardunio can handle 12v on raw (in best cases - clones can fry).

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          @the-cosmic-gate said:

          But maybe the arduino input on the RAW ports ?
          I think i need some Step Down dc-dc convertor for this

          Yes - you do. Ardunio can handle 12v on raw (in best cases - clones can fry).

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          @sundberg84 said:

          @the-cosmic-gate said:

          But maybe the arduino input on the RAW ports ?
          I think i need some Step Down dc-dc convertor for this

          Yes - you do. Ardunio can handle 12v on raw (in best cases - clones can fry).

          Thnx , thnx the layout would be different. Because the LEDs needs 48v

          There's more than meets the eye

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            TheoL
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            I fried a ProMini 3.3V while putting 12V on the raw pin. I suggest you add some power regulator and feed the Arduino with no more than 9V. Better safe than sorry.

            I'm lucky I can still feed the ProMini throught the FDTI pins, but it's not ideally.

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            • TheoLT TheoL

              I fried a ProMini 3.3V while putting 12V on the raw pin. I suggest you add some power regulator and feed the Arduino with no more than 9V. Better safe than sorry.

              I'm lucky I can still feed the ProMini throught the FDTI pins, but it's not ideally.

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              @TheoL said:

              I fried a ProMini 3.3V while putting 12V on the raw pin. I suggest you add some power regulator and feed the Arduino with no more than 9V. Better safe than sorry.

              I'm lucky I can still feed the ProMini throught the FDTI pins, but it's not ideally.

              aaai frying one would cost you €5 :) i already ordered some power regulators to set the input on this raw ports.
              But the re-think the design a bit

              There's more than meets the eye

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              • the cosmic gateT the cosmic gate

                @TheoL said:

                I fried a ProMini 3.3V while putting 12V on the raw pin. I suggest you add some power regulator and feed the Arduino with no more than 9V. Better safe than sorry.

                I'm lucky I can still feed the ProMini throught the FDTI pins, but it's not ideally.

                aaai frying one would cost you €5 :) i already ordered some power regulators to set the input on this raw ports.
                But the re-think the design a bit

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                @the-cosmic-gate I think I order 5 ProMini's for around 8 dollars. So the damage wasn't too big ;-)

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                  I'm in the process of building a 34V LED dimmer (waiting for my dirtypcbs to be delivered). I'm doing a 34V -> 12V (I plan to also control a 12V cpu fan) -> 3.3V

                  I've been using http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/281/dms-78xxsr-47233.pdf (12V version) on my breadboard but 5V and 3.3V versions are also available.
                  These modules are awesome, no heat, very stable, well filtered, available on mouser for ~$9. Usually overpriced on ebay (~$30)
                  Technically the datasheet say it should be able to handle 40V for low currents even up to 45V maximum.
                  If you only power the arduino / radio this step down module at 5 or 3.3V may be a good option for you.

                  Another option is http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Terminal-12V-1A-Switching-Voltage-Regulator-Power-Supply-/251971614470
                  I bought 2 of these to be on my final PCB. Max is supposed to be 40V but it may be worth testing at 42V. Seller is the maker, he is very friendly and should be able to tell you if 42V is fine.

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                    #10

                    i just recieved the voltage regulator and tried it without result :(
                    The LED light i;'ve got lphilips InStyle

                    In the spec's i read that i have to use for dimming : phase cutting dimmers , that's something different the PWM i think ;S ?

                    Is there oneother solution i can try / use ?

                    There's more than meets the eye

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                      @the-cosmic-gate
                      That should be a leading edge (Triac based, relatively cheap) or trailing edge (expensive) dimmer I suppose.

                      a leading edge dimmer is discussed in this thread: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3953/4-channel-ac-dimer/2

                      Is there anyone here that combined a mysensors-sketch with a trailing edge dimmer?

                      BR,

                      Boozz

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