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Help converting 24VAC to 5VDC

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  • dbemowskD dbemowsk

    @drock1985 I don't think that an LM7805 regulator will work for him. He mentions that he is getting 34 volts DC out of his bridge rectifier, and the max input voltage for the 7805 is I believe 24 volts. Besides, for those regulators to convert from the max 24v down to 5v, they will dissipate a lot of heat requiring a fair heat sink. IMHO, I think the buck converter is his only choice in this situation.

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    @dbemowsk

    True. Could also down step the voltage twice. LM7812 to LM7805 for example.

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      You might try a 5 volt wall wart. I've found that some of them will actually run off of 24 vac as long as you don't need a lot of load. I've done it and it worked for me.

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        Stepping down the voltage twice I think would be an insane waste of energy. Not that it wouldn't work, but you then have 2 regulators dumping a lot of heat. If you were going to go that route, I would step to 18 volts first with a 7818. I still don't think the 7812 can handle a 34 volt input where the 7818 can.

        As for the wall wart, never tried that, but even if he went with that, the size might be a factor. Besides, I am not sure of the stability. That may also depend on what type of wall wart he used and how low of an input voltage the switching supply will take and still be effective.

        At under $3.00 US, the buck converter is cheap, small, and overall the best solution, IMHO.

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          @petewill If you don't need more than 0.5A you may want to give a try to Murata 7805SR-C switching regulator http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-Power-Solutions/7805SR-C/
          http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/281/dms-78xxsr-47233.pdf

          No heat, very stable, high quality. I use these guys in their 12V version from 34V to power CPU fan and arduino/radio/sensors (with an additional 3.3V linear regulator from the 12V) in a LED control board https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3843/mysgrowled and so far so good.

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            Thanks all for the responses! I do have a few buck converters lying around. They look like this:
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/LM2596S-power-DC-DC-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-5V-3A-LM2596-/182167996468?hash=item2a6a0f0834:g:VxMAAOSw3v5XIvxk

            The LM2596 looks like it's rated to 45V (although the capacitors say 36V). Maybe I'll give that a shot and see if any smoke comes out. :)

            Has anyone played with a LM2596 and a couple of capacitors instead of the module like I posted above? Maybe that would be a good option as it seems to have a 5V output?

            @emc2 That part looks cool although it's a little pricey.

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              @petewill, It seems like it would be easier to just use the module. The LM2596 probably needs that choke that is there. Also, it may be a bit of calculation to figure out the voltage divider to drop you to the 5v, With the module, you at least have some control so if you wanted to bump it up to say 6v-7v to go to the Raw input on the arduino, you would have that flexibility.

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              • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                @petewill, It seems like it would be easier to just use the module. The LM2596 probably needs that choke that is there. Also, it may be a bit of calculation to figure out the voltage divider to drop you to the 5v, With the module, you at least have some control so if you wanted to bump it up to say 6v-7v to go to the Raw input on the arduino, you would have that flexibility.

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                @dbemowsk Thanks. I'll give it a shot.

                If anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear them. I'm sure I'll have more projects like this in the future where space is more of an issue.

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                • petewillP petewill

                  @dbemowsk Thanks. I'll give it a shot.

                  If anyone has any other ideas I'd love to hear them. I'm sure I'll have more projects like this in the future where space is more of an issue.

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                  @petewill I've used these to convert from 24VAC to 5VDC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321472165477. They are a bit more expensive, but allow for a large range of AC/DC input to 5VDC. There's also a similar one for 12VDC.

                  Cheers
                  Al

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                    @petewill I've used these to convert from 24VAC to 5VDC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321472165477. They are a bit more expensive, but allow for a large range of AC/DC input to 5VDC. There's also a similar one for 12VDC.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                    @Sparkman said:

                    @petewill I've used these to convert from 24VAC to 5VDC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321472165477. They are a bit more expensive, but allow for a large range of AC/DC input to 5VDC. There's also a similar one for 12VDC.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                      @petewill I've used these to convert from 24VAC to 5VDC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321472165477. They are a bit more expensive, but allow for a large range of AC/DC input to 5VDC. There's also a similar one for 12VDC.

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      @Sparkman said:

                      @petewill I've used these to convert from 24VAC to 5VDC: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321472165477. They are a bit more expensive, but allow for a large range of AC/DC input to 5VDC. There's also a similar one for 12VDC.

                      Cheers
                      Al

                      Im using those as well for my Ip cameras, works great!

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                        @Sparkman Cool, thanks for sharing! It's always nice to have options.

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