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  • mntlvrM Offline
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    #37

    Thru the plugin just like mt Ethernet W5100 did.

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    • mntlvrM mntlvr

      Thru the plugin just like mt Ethernet W5100 did.

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      #38

      @mntlvr I think you're missing what I am asking. How does your ESP8266 PHYSICALLY connect to your vera, or doesn't it? In other words, is there a wire that connects your gateway to your vera?

      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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        I think you are miss-understanding me the Mysensors Plugin for Vera does all of the connecting to Vera. I have nothing connected to my Vera directly except the Vera address and the Ethernet Address which is applied to the plugin that you use to create the Icon for Mysensors. Whether I use the WiFi version or the Ethernet version the use the same plugin.Wireless except for the Address each unit has on the network

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        • mntlvrM mntlvr

          I think you are miss-understanding me the Mysensors Plugin for Vera does all of the connecting to Vera. I have nothing connected to my Vera directly except the Vera address and the Ethernet Address which is applied to the plugin that you use to create the Icon for Mysensors. Whether I use the WiFi version or the Ethernet version the use the same plugin.Wireless except for the Address each unit has on the network

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          @mntlvr Sorry, I don't have ethernet or WiFi gateways, so I wasn't sure if or how they connected to the Vera. When you go to the properties on the MySensors plugin, is it that you have the start and stop buttons for inclusion, or do you not have the buttons?

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            Yes the inclusion buttons are under properties no need of having button on gw.
            How does you serial gw talk to your Vera ? Do you have a plugin that is used to create your Icon.

            See when the icon is created on my Vera Plus it shows the plugin version but not the library version so I know just by that issue the plugin is not configuring to any gw.

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            • S Strixx

              @mntlvr said in πŸ’¬ Advanced Gateway Options:

              So what is the finial solution to using the Led's on a ESP 8266-E gateway are they of any use if using a Vera Controller?

              I have had a lot of help with the leds. I have noticed that you get a lot of errors (in some positions it is impossible to communicate with the nodes at all) if not the radio is positioned to close to the ESP. It seems to me that the radio on the NodeMCU interferes with the NRF24L01+PA+LNA that i am using on my gateway. I found I thread on this forum about it but can't find it again.

              So thanks to the leds I have been able to build a box where i have no transmission errors due to interference.

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              @strixx said in πŸ’¬ Advanced Gateway Options:

              @mntlvr said in πŸ’¬ Advanced Gateway Options:

              So what is the finial solution to using the Led's on a ESP 8266-E gateway are they of any use if using a Vera Controller?

              I have had a lot of help with the leds. I have noticed that you get a lot of errors (in some positions it is impossible to communicate with the nodes at all) if not the radio is positioned to close to the ESP. It seems to me that the radio on the NodeMCU interferes with the NRF24L01+PA+LNA that i am using on my gateway. I found I thread on this forum about it but can't find it again.

              So thanks to the leds I have been able to build a box where i have no transmission errors due to interference.

              Strixx
              You have a WiFi gw up and working , right? What version of the MYSensors are you using? Also what type of Vera are you using. I am using a Vera3 and a Vera Plus? Also which plugin are you using for your Vera. I have built both WiFi and Ethernet and the sensors talk wonderfully to the gw's no matter which I power up but neither of my Vera's will configure and use the plugin that are the latest available from git-hub.

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              • mntlvrM mntlvr

                Yes the inclusion buttons are under properties no need of having button on gw.
                How does you serial gw talk to your Vera ? Do you have a plugin that is used to create your Icon.

                See when the icon is created on my Vera Plus it shows the plugin version but not the library version so I know just by that issue the plugin is not configuring to any gw.

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                @mntlvr I believe the plugin is similar, if not the same for the serial gateway also. Did you enable the inclusion mode?

                // Enable inclusion mode
                #define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_FEATURE
                

                If you do a port scan of the IP address of the ESP8266, what ports does it show as open? Do you have this in you sketch?

                // The port to keep open on node server mode
                #define MY_PORT 5003
                

                Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                  #44

                  Oh yes I mentioned that several days ago.
                  My vera's have port 3480 and 80 opened

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                  • mntlvrM mntlvr

                    Oh yes I mentioned that several days ago.
                    My vera's have port 3480 and 80 opened

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                    #45

                    @mntlvr But do you have port 5003 defined in the gateway sketch that you have on the ESP8266? You should be seeing a port 5003 open. If not, you will need to check the sketch and find out why? What happens if you open your web browser to port 80 at that IP address? Does it bring you to a configuration page?

                    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                    • mntlvrM mntlvr

                      Oh yes I mentioned that several days ago.
                      My vera's have port 3480 and 80 opened

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                      @mntlvr Also, It's not the Vera's IP that you want to scan ports on. It would be the IP of the ESP8266.

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                      • mntlvrM mntlvr

                        @strixx said in πŸ’¬ Advanced Gateway Options:

                        @mntlvr said in πŸ’¬ Advanced Gateway Options:

                        So what is the finial solution to using the Led's on a ESP 8266-E gateway are they of any use if using a Vera Controller?

                        I have had a lot of help with the leds. I have noticed that you get a lot of errors (in some positions it is impossible to communicate with the nodes at all) if not the radio is positioned to close to the ESP. It seems to me that the radio on the NodeMCU interferes with the NRF24L01+PA+LNA that i am using on my gateway. I found I thread on this forum about it but can't find it again.

                        So thanks to the leds I have been able to build a box where i have no transmission errors due to interference.

                        Strixx
                        You have a WiFi gw up and working , right? What version of the MYSensors are you using? Also what type of Vera are you using. I am using a Vera3 and a Vera Plus? Also which plugin are you using for your Vera. I have built both WiFi and Ethernet and the sensors talk wonderfully to the gw's no matter which I power up but neither of my Vera's will configure and use the plugin that are the latest available from git-hub.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #47

                        @mntlvr

                        Strixx
                        You have a WiFi gw up and working , right? What version of the MYSensors are you using? Also what type of Vera are you using. I am using a Vera3 and a Vera Plus? Also which plugin are you using for your Vera. I have built both WiFi and Ethernet and the sensors talk wonderfully to the gw's no matter which I power up but neither of my Vera's will configure and use the plugin that are the latest available from git-hub.

                        I don't use Vera. I use Domoticz.

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                          mntlvr
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                          okay thanks

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                            #49

                            @dbemowsk
                            No the gw is the like the host and the Controller is like the client so If you look into the Ethernet or WiFi sketches it will explain that you must use the Controller's ip address so the gw knows where to send the information to and the Vera is the one that is listening so it has to have a port open not the gw. the sensors send the info to the gw and the gw acknowledges it received the message then passing that message on to the controller thru the plugin

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                              #50

                              What does the red error LED indicate? I'm seeing reds on my gateway sometimes.

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                              • Nick WillisN Nick Willis

                                What does the red error LED indicate? I'm seeing reds on my gateway sometimes.

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                                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                #51

                                @nick-willis it indicates an error ;-) The list of possible errors is available at https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/121648f34bb45ab0e21fc4b4835959d27b28a9c6/core/MyIndication.h#L49
                                Most common reason is probably transmit failure.
                                The gateway debug log will provide more details.

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                                  wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                  #52

                                  Hi all!

                                  Im building myself a network rack which will house all gateways and other network equipment. This is a steal frame (ie true faradays cage). I will run the antennas outside with a magnetic base and these antennas with "extension" has worked fine for my 433mhz equipment.

                                  For the main 2.4ghz gateway im lookning at this:

                                  0_1551615916119_b118e965-1818-4ea7-b798-257ed351cadd-image.png

                                  I guess its just a matter of buy and try, but I know there are some antenna nerds in here so a couple of questions.

                                  • Even if it says wifi, i guess it works just as great for MySensors since its the same freq?
                                  • Will the extension cord impact the performance in any way?
                                  • It say 5dBi, what does this correspond to setting MySensors setting? (Ie. how would you config the gateway settings?)

                                  From MyConfig:

                                  /**
                                   * @def MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL
                                   * @brief Default RF24 PA level. Override in sketch if needed.
                                   * - RF24_PA_LOW = -12dBm
                                   * - RF24_PA_HIGH = -6dBm
                                   * - RF24_PA_MAX = 0dBm
                                   */```

                                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                  RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    Hi all!

                                    Im building myself a network rack which will house all gateways and other network equipment. This is a steal frame (ie true faradays cage). I will run the antennas outside with a magnetic base and these antennas with "extension" has worked fine for my 433mhz equipment.

                                    For the main 2.4ghz gateway im lookning at this:

                                    0_1551615916119_b118e965-1818-4ea7-b798-257ed351cadd-image.png

                                    I guess its just a matter of buy and try, but I know there are some antenna nerds in here so a couple of questions.

                                    • Even if it says wifi, i guess it works just as great for MySensors since its the same freq?
                                    • Will the extension cord impact the performance in any way?
                                    • It say 5dBi, what does this correspond to setting MySensors setting? (Ie. how would you config the gateway settings?)

                                    From MyConfig:

                                    /**
                                     * @def MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL
                                     * @brief Default RF24 PA level. Override in sketch if needed.
                                     * - RF24_PA_LOW = -12dBm
                                     * - RF24_PA_HIGH = -6dBm
                                     * - RF24_PA_MAX = 0dBm
                                     */```
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #53

                                    Even if it says wifi, i guess it works just as great for MySensors since its the same freq?

                                    Exactly

                                    Will the extension cord impact the performance in any way?

                                    Yes. There will be some attenuation in the cable. Cables have different attenuation at different frequencies, and there are different cables. Hopefully this cable works well with 2.4GHz but it would be hard to tell without a datasheet or by measuring the cable.

                                    It say 5dBi, what does this correspond to setting MySensors setting? (Ie. how would you config the gateway settings?)

                                    The antenna (or maybe the antenna + cable, depending on what the specification includes) has 5dBi gain. This means that you'll have to lower the tx power by 5dB to stay within legal limits, compared with an isotropic antenna.

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                                    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                      Even if it says wifi, i guess it works just as great for MySensors since its the same freq?

                                      Exactly

                                      Will the extension cord impact the performance in any way?

                                      Yes. There will be some attenuation in the cable. Cables have different attenuation at different frequencies, and there are different cables. Hopefully this cable works well with 2.4GHz but it would be hard to tell without a datasheet or by measuring the cable.

                                      It say 5dBi, what does this correspond to setting MySensors setting? (Ie. how would you config the gateway settings?)

                                      The antenna (or maybe the antenna + cable, depending on what the specification includes) has 5dBi gain. This means that you'll have to lower the tx power by 5dB to stay within legal limits, compared with an isotropic antenna.

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                                      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                      #54

                                      @mfalkvidd - thanks, very good information!
                                      So to be legal I must go RF24_PA_HIGH = -6dBm (which is default?).

                                      No datasheet found, i guess I have to buy and try.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        @mfalkvidd - thanks, very good information!
                                        So to be legal I must go RF24_PA_HIGH = -6dBm (which is default?).

                                        No datasheet found, i guess I have to buy and try.

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                                        @sundberg84 Further to what @mfalkvidd said, please note that most manufacturers state dBi figures as comparatives for the marketplace, rarely do they test them to verify the value and predominantly quote theoretical values instead.
                                        A claimed 5dBi it is likely a 1/4 wave whip ONLY on an infinite ground plane, your actual gain will be less than this depending on attached surface, gain reducing as the area reduces, and the cable attenuating it further depending on the cable used.
                                        i.e. It works, it don't, adjust ;)

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                                        • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                          @sundberg84 Further to what @mfalkvidd said, please note that most manufacturers state dBi figures as comparatives for the marketplace, rarely do they test them to verify the value and predominantly quote theoretical values instead.
                                          A claimed 5dBi it is likely a 1/4 wave whip ONLY on an infinite ground plane, your actual gain will be less than this depending on attached surface, gain reducing as the area reduces, and the cable attenuating it further depending on the cable used.
                                          i.e. It works, it don't, adjust ;)

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @zboblamont thanks!

                                          The "try, repeat" method was something i was expecting but always good to have the theory behind. But im still not quite understanding this with gain and the MySensors settings (which seems to be negative gain?)

                                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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