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  • gohanG gohan

    I'm using the lm393 light detector. Domoticz is able to do a calculation from the pulses to give a Watt value and it is correct but it does it every 5 minutes and it is too slow for me

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    sundberg84
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    #120

    @gohan - is Domoticz updating anything (except switches) faster than 5 min? I dont think so...

    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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      #121

      If you send the watt reading faster it updates like the switch, anyway I need the watt values for node-red also

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        Could it be the Light sensor is triggering more interrupts from each pulse?

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        • NiklasON NiklasO

          Just changed from 1-wire counter to MySensors for logging my power consumption. Using the same LED detector as I did when using 1-wire. Also changed watt limit to 20 000 (my heat pump likes to use 9-10kW sometimes). The wires from the old 1-wire net now provide power for the new MySensors-sensor. I have 10 000 led blinks per kWh. Had som crazy counter values with 1-wire that totally messed up the graphs and haven't seen anything like that with this sketch. Let's hope it stays that way. ;) Dumping data to Domoticz. This sensor gives me higher resolution as a bonus. The 1-wire counter was read every minute, this every 20-sec. ;-)

          0_1490286464866_Domoticz_-_Google_Chrome_2017-03-23_17-27-32_78641890.png

          0_1490286540285_Domoticz_-_Google_Chrome_2017-03-23_17-28-46_94994234.png

          My old 1-wire counter with one crazy value messing upp all the graphs:
          0_1490286637201_Domoticz_-_Google_Chrome_2017-03-23_17-30-09_29365468.png
          I know that you can hold shift and click the value that is crazy to make the graphs show up good but you loose the data for the full day. That's not good. ;-)

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          @niklaso

          Hi Niklas,

          I know this is a very old post, but its worth a try. How did you get out the daily Kwh usage? As default my sensor only gives Watts and Kwh (accumulated from start), I have tried to run a Scene in Vera UI7 where there are a function in the sensor called resetKWh(), but it looks like it doesn't do anything. Any tips would be great, thanks.

          Henning

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @gohan - is Domoticz updating anything (except switches) faster than 5 min? I dont think so...

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            @gohan I think it is a little tricky to update domoticz every minute but try update the sql-file, see the domoticz forum
            https://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10183

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              The main issue is the fact that the sensor is not calculating the instant power correctly

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                I created this kWh sensor with the TCRT5000 IR Barrier Line Track Sensor.
                My powermeter is a ferarrismeter with 375 rotations per kWh.
                I also had the problem with spikes in the power usage. But after long...too long investigation I solved the problem.
                At my config it was a double issue.

                Issue 1.
                The problem is the pulse width of the rotation.
                The pulse are at night ( low power) much wider that during the day when more power is consumed. At night the spikes in power usage where huge.

                Issue 2.
                Switching on/off the halogen light causes spikes and related to also strange power measurement.

                Solution:
                I added a second arduino mini pro as a pulse regulator between the TCRT5000 and the power meter arduino.
                this arduino triggers on Rising and will always give a 100ms puls. Als debounce is handled (spikes).
                I don't upload the sketch here, I'm a beginning programmer on arduino. It's made on " trail and error" but it functions as it supposed to do.
                If someone wants a copy feel free to contact mee

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                • gohanG gohan

                  The main issue is the fact that the sensor is not calculating the instant power correctly

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                  @gohan Did you solve this?
                  I get very high watt usage as well. Sometimes like 40 000 - 130 000 watt if I check the serial monitor.
                  Of course, those values will never be sent to the controler.

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                    #128

                    Nope, I am looking at other things now. Very little time available for too many things. I'm looking at buying CT clamp and do a more direct measurement.

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                      #129

                      Okay. Really annoying. Check this.

                      Received last pulse count from gw:2527
                      Watt:121065
                      22235 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2539
                      22246 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.5390
                      Watt:121621
                      42238 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2551
                      42250 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.5510
                      Watt:121342
                      62239 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2563
                      62251 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.5630
                      Watt:121539
                      82240 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2575
                      82251 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.5750
                      Watt:121951
                      102239 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2589
                      102250 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.5890
                      Watt:122067
                      122243 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=3,c=1,t=24,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2601
                      122254 TSF:MSG:SEND,78-78-0-0,s=2,c=1,t=18,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.6010
                      

                      The plus count seems OK, right?

                      My energy meter is 1000 pluses /kwh

                      Here is my sketch. I use Home assistant so i created three sensors for this as I don't think V_VAR1 is supported with S_POWER.
                      Otherwise it is the standard example.

                      /**
                       * The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                       * between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                       * The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                       * repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                       * network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                       *
                       * Created by Henrik Ekblad <henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org>
                       * Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                       * Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                       *
                       * Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                       * Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                       *
                       * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                       * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                       * version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.
                       *
                       *******************************
                       *
                       * REVISION HISTORY
                       * Version 1.0 - Henrik EKblad
                       *
                       * DESCRIPTION
                       * This sketch provides an example how to implement a distance sensor using HC-SR04
                       * Use this sensor to measure KWH and Watt of your house meeter
                       * You need to set the correct pulsefactor of your meeter (blinks per KWH).
                       * The sensor starts by fetching current KWH value from gateway.
                       * Reports both KWH and Watt back to gateway.
                       *
                       * Unfortunately millis() won't increment when the Arduino is in
                       * sleepmode. So we cannot make this sensor sleep if we also want
                       * to calculate/report watt-number.
                       * http://www.mysensors.org/build/pulse_power
                       */
                      
                      // Enable debug prints
                      #define MY_DEBUG
                      
                      // Enable and select radio type attached
                      #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                      //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                      #define MY_NODE_ID 78
                      #include <MySensors.h>
                      
                      #define DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR 3  // The digital input you attached your light sensor.  (Only 2 and 3 generates interrupt!)
                      #define PULSE_FACTOR 1000       // Nummber of blinks per KWH of your meeter
                      #define SLEEP_MODE false        // Watt-value can only be reported when sleep mode is false.
                      #define MAX_WATT 20000          // Max watt value to report. This filetrs outliers.
                      #define WATT_CHILD_ID 1              // Id of the sensor child
                      #define KWH_CHILD_ID 2
                      #define PC_CHILD_ID 3
                      
                      unsigned long SEND_FREQUENCY =
                          20000; // Minimum time between send (in milliseconds). We don't wnat to spam the gateway.
                      double ppwh = ((double)PULSE_FACTOR)/1000; // Pulses per watt hour
                      bool pcReceived = false;
                      volatile unsigned long pulseCount = 0;
                      volatile unsigned long lastBlink = 0;
                      volatile unsigned long watt = 0;
                      unsigned long oldPulseCount = 0;
                      unsigned long oldWatt = 0;
                      double oldKwh;
                      unsigned long lastSend;
                      MyMessage wattMsg(WATT_CHILD_ID,V_WATT);
                      MyMessage kwhMsg(KWH_CHILD_ID,V_KWH);
                      MyMessage pcMsg(PC_CHILD_ID,V_VAR1);
                      
                      
                      void setup()
                      {
                        // Fetch last known pulse count value from gw
                        request(PC_CHILD_ID, V_VAR1);
                      
                        // Use the internal pullup to be able to hook up this sketch directly to an energy meter with S0 output
                        // If no pullup is used, the reported usage will be too high because of the floating pin
                        pinMode(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR,INPUT_PULLUP);
                      
                        attachInterrupt(digitalPinToInterrupt(DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR), onPulse, RISING);
                        lastSend=millis();
                      }
                      
                      void presentation()
                      {
                        // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                        sendSketchInfo("Energy Meter", "1.0");
                      
                        // Register this device as power sensor
                        present(WATT_CHILD_ID, S_POWER);
                        present(KWH_CHILD_ID, S_POWER);
                        present(PC_CHILD_ID, S_CUSTOM);
                      }
                      
                      void loop()
                      {
                        unsigned long now = millis();
                        // Only send values at a maximum frequency or woken up from sleep
                        bool sendTime = now - lastSend > SEND_FREQUENCY;
                        if (pcReceived && (SLEEP_MODE || sendTime)) {
                          // New watt value has been calculated
                          if (!SLEEP_MODE && watt != oldWatt) {
                            // Check that we dont get unresonable large watt value.
                            // could hapen when long wraps or false interrupt triggered
                            if (watt<((unsigned long)MAX_WATT)) {
                              send(wattMsg.set(watt));  // Send watt value to gw
                            }
                            Serial.print("Watt:");
                            Serial.println(watt);
                            oldWatt = watt;
                          }
                      
                          // Pulse cout has changed
                          if (pulseCount != oldPulseCount) {
                            send(pcMsg.set(pulseCount));  // Send pulse count value to gw
                            double kwh = ((double)pulseCount/((double)PULSE_FACTOR));
                            oldPulseCount = pulseCount;
                            if (kwh != oldKwh) {
                              send(kwhMsg.set(kwh, 4));  // Send kwh value to gw
                              oldKwh = kwh;
                            }
                          }
                          lastSend = now;
                        } else if (sendTime && !pcReceived) {
                          // No count received. Try requesting it again
                          request(PC_CHILD_ID, V_VAR1);
                          lastSend=now;
                        }
                      
                        if (SLEEP_MODE) {
                          sleep(SEND_FREQUENCY);
                        }
                      }
                      
                      void receive(const MyMessage &message)
                      {
                        if (message.type==V_VAR1) {
                          pulseCount = oldPulseCount = message.getLong();
                          Serial.print("Received last pulse count from gw:");
                          Serial.println(pulseCount);
                          pcReceived = true;
                        }
                      }
                      
                      void onPulse()
                      {
                        if (!SLEEP_MODE) {
                          unsigned long newBlink = micros();
                          unsigned long interval = newBlink-lastBlink;
                          if (interval<10000L) { // Sometimes we get interrupt on RISING
                            return;
                          }
                          watt = (3600000000.0 /interval) / ppwh;
                          lastBlink = newBlink;
                        }
                        pulseCount++;
                      }
                      
                      

                      Anyone got any ideas?
                      BTW. First i tried the original example sketch, unmodified, with the same result.

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                        gohan
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                        That's pretty much the same problem as I have

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                          I think i solved this.
                          I don't know if it is a good solution.
                          Maybe it is possible to solve in the code?
                          I added a 0,1uf ceramic capacitor between DO and GND on the LM393.
                          Then i tuned the LM393 until i had it blink as expected.

                          I think, in my case the LED pulse from my meeter was to short, it gives a very short blink.
                          Anyway.
                          I tested it all day and it seems fine now.

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                            Are you getting instant power measurements correct?

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                              #133

                              Yes. I guess.
                              I don't have anything to compare with but i think it is accurate.
                              I have a 1000blink/kwh
                              Example:
                              Node send state every 20 sec.
                              pulsecount: 8 pulses every 20 sec.
                              Instant power in W is about 1400W

                              8 pulses x 3 = pulses /minute =24
                              24 pulses x 60 min = pulses /hour = 1440.

                              Edit.
                              Now I get a new value every 20 sec, before I didn't get any value (W) from the node at all because it was too high. I only received pulse count and kWh earlier.

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                                Besides the cap, what exactly did you do?

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                                  Nothing more.
                                  I use the same arduino, haven't uploaded anything new to it since i tried it last time.

                                  What I had to do was lower the sensitivity on the LM393 because at first the signal-LED glowed a bit but when i adjusted it to lower sensitivity and closed the door to get it totaly dark the led blinked exactly as the meeter.

                                  I have it on a bredboard and connected the cap between GND and to pin 3 so it is connected close to the arduino but i guess it shouldn't matter.

                                  Have you tried it?

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                                    gohan
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                                    #136

                                    I can't believe it, IT WORKS!!!!! I added the cap directly under the pins of the LM939 board. Thanks man!

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                                      #137

                                      I am glad to hear it works for you too.

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                                        #138

                                        There is probably a sw way to correct this problem, I'll think about it

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                                          #139

                                          It waswhat I thought too.
                                          As I said earlier, when I tested this my conclusion was, short blink, almost a flash will counted as a pulse (kWh) but it does something wrong with the calculation of instant power usage.
                                          A slower blink will correct this.
                                          My meeter gives a very short blink.

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