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💬 Building a wired RS485 sensor network

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  • P Offline
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    Pavel Polititsky
    wrote on last edited by
    #133

    I just trying to work with examples but my node always transmitting some piece of shit from hardware serial:

     
     __  __       ____
    |  \/  |_   _/ ___|  ___ _ __  ___  ___  _ __ ___
    | |\/| | | | \___ \ / _ \ `_ \/ __|/ _ \| `__/ __|
    | |  | | |_| |___| |  __/ | | \__ \  _  | |  \__ \
    |_|  |_|\__, |____/ \___|_| |_|___/\___/|_|  |___/
            |___/                      2.3.0
    
    16 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RSNNA---,VER=2.3.0
    25 TSM:INIT
    26 TSF:WUR:MS=0
    28 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
    29 TSF:SID:OK,ID=5
    31 TSM:FPAR
    ⸮X⸮⸮w34 TSF:MSG:SEND,5-5-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
    2041 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
    2043 TSM:FPAR
    ⸮X⸮⸮w2045 TSF:MSG:SEND,5-5-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
    4054 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
    4056 TSM:FPAR
    ⸮X⸮⸮w4058 TSF:MSG:SEND,5-5-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
    6066 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
    6068 TSM:FPAR
    ⸮X⸮⸮w6070 TSF:MSG:SEND,5-5-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
    8078 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
    8079 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
    8081 TSM:FAIL:DIS
    8083 TSF:TDI:TSL
    

    From software serial too

    ⸮X⸮⸮w
    ⸮X⸮⸮w
    ⸮X⸮⸮w
    ⸮X⸮⸮w
    

    Consequently the gateway can't find any device.
    I have tried also with RS485 with different baudrate. Finally I just connect my USB TTL directly to ouput pins, but always same result.
    How to fix it?

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    • rejoe2R Offline
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      rejoe2
      wrote on last edited by
      #134

      @Pavel-Polititsky
      To me this looks like you mixed between-node communication (RS485) with debug output (and maybe also serial output of the gw).
      The corresponding serial interface for RS485 should be dedicated to RS485 exclusively.

      Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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        PepoV6
        wrote on last edited by
        #135

        Hi,
        first of I have to thank you for your effort on this project! It helped me a lot.
        In my house I would like to build 2 networks, one with serial gateway with RF24 for ground floor and outside. Second will be in cellar and I was thinking about Ethernet gateway (W5500) but sensors will be connected via RS485. Do you have code for that? On the video it looks like that in the box on right side it is something like this.

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          GieBek
          wrote on last edited by
          #136

          I have exactly the same problem. Has anyone managed to run it.

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            GieBek
            wrote on last edited by
            #137

            | / |_ / | ___ _ __ ___ ___ _ __ ___
            | |/| | | | _
            \ / _ \ _ \/ __|/ _ \|
            _/ __|
            | | | | |
            | || | / | | _ \ _ | | _
            |
            | |
            |_
            , |/ ___|| ||/_/|| |/
            |
            __/ 2.3.1

            16 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RSNNA---,REL=255,VER=2.3.1
            26 TSM:INIT
            27 TSF:WUR:MS=0
            28 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            30 TSM:FPAR
            56 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            2063 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            2065 TSM:FPAR
            2082 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            4090 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            4092 TSM:FPAR
            4110 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            6118 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            6120 TSM:FPAR
            6137 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            8146 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            8147 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
            8150 TSM:FAIL:DIS
            8152 TSF:TDI:TSL
            18154 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            18156 TSM:INIT
            18157 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            18159 TSM:FPAR
            18178 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            20186 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            20188 TSM:FPAR
            20206 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            22213 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            22215 TSM:FPAR
            22234 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            24241 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            24243 TSM:FPAR
            24261 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            26268 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            26269 TSM:FAIL:CNT=2
            26271 TSM:FAIL:DIS
            26273 TSF:TDI:TSL

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            • G GieBek

              I have exactly the same problem. Has anyone managed to run it.

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              mfalkvidd
              Mod
              wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
              #138

              @giebek could you describe the problem, what your setup looks like, and what you have tried so far to troubleshoot it? There are 137 posts in this thread so it is a bit hard to figure out which problem you are referring to.

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              • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                @giebek could you describe the problem, what your setup looks like, and what you have tried so far to troubleshoot it? There are 137 posts in this thread so it is a bit hard to figure out which problem you are referring to.

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                rejoe2
                wrote on last edited by rejoe2
                #139

                @GieBek

                6137 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:

                Imo this indicates your node doesn't have a NodeID yet. When using RS485 you have to assign the ID's manually in the sketch, auto doesn't work... (e.g. #define MY_NODE_ID 123)

                Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                  GieBek
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #140

                  Thanks for the answers.
                  And even more thanks to the rejoe2

                  #define MY_NODE_ID 123

                  it helped 100% the transmission went, domoticz sees children.

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                    dzjr
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #141

                    hello MySensors friends,

                    I am currently making a node based on an arduino Mega 2560 with transport via RS-485, the build page says that we should use the MEGA pin 46 & 48, I was wondering if I would like a reference for this. in the sketch.
                    Second question; can I use pin 47 for the DE pin with:

                    #define MY_RS485_DE_PIN 47
                    

                    I haven't tested anything yet, so actually I just ask a lazy question ;)

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                      APL2017
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #142

                      Hello, I would like to better understand the concept here. It sounds like we still need a gateway connected to a controller (serial, Ethernet, WiFi, etc.) but the interface between gateway and multiple nodes is over wired RS485 serial interface. Please confirm. Thank you for your great efforts!

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                      • A APL2017

                        Hello, I would like to better understand the concept here. It sounds like we still need a gateway connected to a controller (serial, Ethernet, WiFi, etc.) but the interface between gateway and multiple nodes is over wired RS485 serial interface. Please confirm. Thank you for your great efforts!

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                        rejoe2
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #143

                        @apl2017 Yes, also for RS485 variant you'll need a gateway. Only the communication between the gateway and the other nodes is handled over RS485, connected to a second (typically software) serial interface (for remote nodes, you may just use the hardware serial interface to connect the RS485 transceiver, if you do not need debug output; but imo this option is not recommended for beginners).

                        Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                        • dzjrD dzjr

                          hello MySensors friends,

                          I am currently making a node based on an arduino Mega 2560 with transport via RS-485, the build page says that we should use the MEGA pin 46 & 48, I was wondering if I would like a reference for this. in the sketch.
                          Second question; can I use pin 47 for the DE pin with:

                          #define MY_RS485_DE_PIN 47
                          

                          I haven't tested anything yet, so actually I just ask a lazy question ;)

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                          dzjr
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #144

                          @dzjr said in 💬 Building a wired RS485 sensor network:

                          hello MySensors friends,

                          I am currently making a node based on an arduino Mega 2560 with transport via RS-485, the build page says that we should use the MEGA pin 46 & 48, I was wondering if I would like a reference for this. in the sketch.
                          Second question; can I use pin 47 for the DE pin with:

                          #define MY_RS485_DE_PIN 47
                          

                          I haven't tested anything yet, so actually I just ask a lazy question ;)

                          I have it working, so you don't have to adjust anything for a Mega, and pin 47 for DE also works!

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                            zrom69
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #145

                            Hi,
                            in a node how many children can put rs-485
                            thanks good work

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                              zrom69
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #146

                              and it can have blockages if there are sensors that function or even time
                              thanks

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                              • zrom69Z zrom69

                                Hi,
                                in a node how many children can put rs-485
                                thanks good work

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                                dzjr
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #147

                                @zrom69

                                I have a node with 52 child id's on a Arduino mega,

                                Arnout 22 of Them receiving data (relay & dimmers) and the rest are sending data, binary, temp/hum, soil moisture and analog data.

                                Not all the nodes are in use, but i see the data in domoticz.

                                I dont know how manny childs you want to use, for me 52 on one node are very mutch.

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                                  zrom69
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #148

                                  thank you for your reply
                                  at least 10 children in node and 30 nodes

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                                  • dzjrD dzjr

                                    @zrom69

                                    I have a node with 52 child id's on a Arduino mega,

                                    Arnout 22 of Them receiving data (relay & dimmers) and the rest are sending data, binary, temp/hum, soil moisture and analog data.

                                    Not all the nodes are in use, but i see the data in domoticz.

                                    I dont know how manny childs you want to use, for me 52 on one node are very mutch.

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                                    zrom69
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #149

                                    @dzjr
                                    thank you for your reply
                                    at least 10 children in node and 30 nodes
                                    @dzjr

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                                      rafal9318
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                                      #150

                                      Hi all,
                                      I have a question about, How to use hardware serial on Arduino Uno (as a sensor) to communicate with gateway via RS485? I added #define MY_RS485_HWSERIAL Serial and it is only working when i turn on debugging (#define MY_DEBUG), how to use hardware serial without debugger ?

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                                        rejoe2
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #151

                                        @zrom69
                                        No real Problem in turning off debug output, at least in 2.3.1 this worked:

                                        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                                        //#define MY_DEBUG
                                        //#define MY_DEBUG_LOCAL
                                        
                                        #define SN "Zwischenkeller"
                                        #define SV "0.2"
                                        
                                        // Enable RS485 transport layer
                                        #define MY_RS485
                                        
                                        // Define this to enables DE-pin management on defined pin
                                        #define MY_RS485_DE_PIN 2
                                        
                                        // Set RS485 baud rate to use
                                        #define MY_RS485_BAUD_RATE 19200 //57600 //38400 //9600
                                        #define MY_RS485_SOH_COUNT 1
                                        #define MY_RS485_HWSERIAL Serial
                                        #define MY_SPLASH_SCREEN_DISABLED
                                        

                                        You may even swap around debugging output from hardware serial to software serial, see basic structure from this post in FHEM forum (german, but most is code).

                                        Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                                          rafal9318
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #152

                                          @rejoe2 Thank you. #define MY_SPLASH_SCREEN_DISABLED that was the missing line.
                                          Okey i understand now. Thank you again.

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