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  • dbemowskD dbemowsk

    OK, so I am doing some testing on the new wind direction sensor board I am building. My problem is that the infrared LED that I have, which was scavanged from an old remote, has good IR pointing forward. but when I try to direct it sideways to the IR sensors, I appear to not be getting enough IR light to trigger the sensors. If I shine a flashlight at each of the sensors, they register, but not when O Does anyone know of either a different IR diode, or a way that I can get the existing diode to shine more in a sideways direction? Here is what the board is looking like. I currently only have one set of 4 sensors connected for testing. You can kind of see that the IR LED is lit.
    0_1495063129068_upload-5fcf55ca-db4f-48c5-9d3a-721e5c0b9bb1

    This is the design of the IR rotor that directs the light which gets screwed to the end of the bolt that is the shaft of the wind direction vane. The majority of the IR light gets directed at the end of the bolt.
    0_1495063638749_upload-c72eb7e3-4af9-4742-bffe-20d565d4835b .

    I am up for any suggestions.

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    wallyllama
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    @dbemowsk i have an led flashlight in the shape of a lantern, it has a shape like cone that has been dehydrated, so there is a concave curve from the base to the tip. Sort of like a golf tee but different proportions.0_1495070004870_1495069978157-964853724.jpg

    I guess it it like a regular flashlight reflector inside out

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    • wallyllamaW wallyllama

      @dbemowsk 15 is metric for 10.*

      • If you received 16, then I could have said you ordered in hex, and this would actually have been funny.
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      @wallyllama That would have been funny. There are 10 types of people in this world, Those that understand binary, and those that don't.

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      • wallyllamaW wallyllama

        @dbemowsk i have an led flashlight in the shape of a lantern, it has a shape like cone that has been dehydrated, so there is a concave curve from the base to the tip. Sort of like a golf tee but different proportions.0_1495070004870_1495069978157-964853724.jpg

        I guess it it like a regular flashlight reflector inside out

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        dbemowsk
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        @wallyllama My only problem with this is that the hole that the LED fits in is slightly larger than 5mm, so that cone would need to be tiny.

        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

          OK, so I am doing some testing on the new wind direction sensor board I am building. My problem is that the infrared LED that I have, which was scavanged from an old remote, has good IR pointing forward. but when I try to direct it sideways to the IR sensors, I appear to not be getting enough IR light to trigger the sensors. If I shine a flashlight at each of the sensors, they register, but not when O Does anyone know of either a different IR diode, or a way that I can get the existing diode to shine more in a sideways direction? Here is what the board is looking like. I currently only have one set of 4 sensors connected for testing. You can kind of see that the IR LED is lit.
          0_1495063129068_upload-5fcf55ca-db4f-48c5-9d3a-721e5c0b9bb1

          This is the design of the IR rotor that directs the light which gets screwed to the end of the bolt that is the shaft of the wind direction vane. The majority of the IR light gets directed at the end of the bolt.
          0_1495063638749_upload-c72eb7e3-4af9-4742-bffe-20d565d4835b .

          I am up for any suggestions.

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          wallyllama
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          #50

          @dbemowsk actually, you only have to illuminate the sensors that your slot faces, a 45° mirror or a reflector opposite the slot should help.

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          • gohanG gohan

            Something reflective that diffuses light?

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            dbemowsk
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            #51

            @gohan I tried putting a piece of tin foil in the hole, but it must not have been at the right angle.

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              Maybe a steel sphere? A white piece of plastic? Remember that you can use the smartphone camera to see the ir light coming from the led, in case you would like to see the result before assembling it

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              • gohanG gohan

                Maybe a steel sphere? A white piece of plastic? Remember that you can use the smartphone camera to see the ir light coming from the led, in case you would like to see the result before assembling it

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                @gohan Yes, I have been using my smart phone camera. I use it all the time at work to test remotes. I have some other things to try later today. I will post my results.

                Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                  #54

                  Hello all,
                  I'd like to add to this discussion my bit,
                  here is code from my older project of arduino based, battery operated, solar panel charged weather station
                  https://github.com/Luc3as/MySensors-WeatherStation
                  I must finish all documentation, I have PCBs ready and manufactured and tested, and models ready for 3d prints too.
                  I am not measuring wind so I am also interested in nice work above.
                  for now it is still work in progress, here is little teaser of overall look
                  0_1495694816412_IMG_20170519_171638.jpg

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                  • Luc3asL Luc3as

                    Hello all,
                    I'd like to add to this discussion my bit,
                    here is code from my older project of arduino based, battery operated, solar panel charged weather station
                    https://github.com/Luc3as/MySensors-WeatherStation
                    I must finish all documentation, I have PCBs ready and manufactured and tested, and models ready for 3d prints too.
                    I am not measuring wind so I am also interested in nice work above.
                    for now it is still work in progress, here is little teaser of overall look
                    0_1495694816412_IMG_20170519_171638.jpg

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                    dbemowsk
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                    #55

                    @Luc3as Thanks for the contribution. I have been quite busy the past few weeks and haven't had a lot of time to work more on the wind direction sensor. There are still a few issues I am working through with that before I can start jumping into the code for it. I am hoping to get more done this weekend.

                    As for your 3D files, do you have them on thingiverse or somewhere accessible for us to check them out? I am interested in the work you have done.

                    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                      #56

                      Those are quite a lot of solar panels. Is it that power hungry?

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        Those are quite a lot of solar panels. Is it that power hungry?

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                        dbemowsk
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                        #57

                        @gohan I can't see those small panels delivering that much. Plus, at certain parts of the day a number of the panels will most likely be shaded lowering their output.

                        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                          @gohan I can't see those small panels delivering that much. Plus, at certain parts of the day a number of the panels will most likely be shaded lowering their output.

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                          Luc3as
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                          @dbemowsk yup, actually there are 8 of them, each providing nominal 0,5 volts, so to power up the lipo charger for battery I need at least 4 volts, in direct sunlight I think this will not be problem, but as @dbemowsk says, it will not have ideal position to sun every day and for whole time. but there is big enough reserve at battery , providing power for few days to weeks even without solar panel.
                          and I am also checking voltage on solar panel so if there would be some problem with charging I can set notifications or something from home automation system.

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                            GaryStofer
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                            I did some wind speed and direction sensor boards that I use in my own weather station design. All solid state and high resolution with analog signal readout, voltage for direction, 8 pulse per rev for speed. For inspiration see http://wws.us.to. Gary

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                            • Luc3asL Luc3as

                              @dbemowsk yup, actually there are 8 of them, each providing nominal 0,5 volts, so to power up the lipo charger for battery I need at least 4 volts, in direct sunlight I think this will not be problem, but as @dbemowsk says, it will not have ideal position to sun every day and for whole time. but there is big enough reserve at battery , providing power for few days to weeks even without solar panel.
                              and I am also checking voltage on solar panel so if there would be some problem with charging I can set notifications or something from home automation system.

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                              gohan
                              Mod
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                              @Luc3as if you put solar panels in series you will get resistance from the shaded ones (at least that is what I saw in some experiments) . It would be better to have a single one pointing south that gathers the most sunlight and that's it

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                                @Luc3as if you put solar panels in series you will get resistance from the shaded ones (at least that is what I saw in some experiments) . It would be better to have a single one pointing south that gathers the most sunlight and that's it

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                                dbemowsk
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                                #61

                                @gohan said in MySensors weather station:

                                @Luc3as if you put solar panels in series you will get resistance from the shaded ones

                                That is correct, as far as what I have learned. Large monocrystaline and polycrystaline solar panels like the ones shown below have low to no output for the entire panel when one or more of the cells on a panel is shaded or covered.
                                0_1495767863204_upload-5b7ebb13-0e24-46c9-9309-63bcf0032e7a

                                Amorphous solar panels like these have closer to full output with less drop-off in shaded areas, but have a lower overall amperage output than monocrystaline and polycrystaline panels.
                                0_1495768140607_upload-6ac6d03c-ceb7-4228-ac66-8918a44a6ea5

                                The cells that @Luc3as has in his pic appear to be monocrystaline cells. Each cell will produce about 0.5 volts, so depending on the batteries you are using and the charging circuit, you could put some of these in series to create a couple banks, and then put the banks in parallel, you may get some usable power to charge a battery.

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                                  I did some wind speed and direction sensor boards that I use in my own weather station design. All solid state and high resolution with analog signal readout, voltage for direction, 8 pulse per rev for speed. For inspiration see http://wws.us.to. Gary

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                                  @GaryStofer I was checking out your weather station design. Nice work. Out of curiosity, what did you use for your wind direction sensor?

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                                  • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                    @GaryStofer I was checking out your weather station design. Nice work. Out of curiosity, what did you use for your wind direction sensor?

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                                    @dbemowsk Initially I uses an AS5030 encoder, but then I switched to the EM-3242 as it's much cheaper and smaller and does the same. My board has an Op-amp inverter to change the sense of angle to voltage so that the magnet can run on the top of the chip rather than on the bottom. Only problem we had with the EM-3242 was that it has no hysteresis which shows up at the 360/0 junction.

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                                      So, I had put this project on hold for a bit, but I am back at it. One of the parts of the project that I will be talking about in this post is the rain gauge portion of this. I had started a thread on this part a while back, but decided that I would combine everything for the weather station in this thread.

                                      So one of the things with this rain gauge was that I wanted to make it fairly accurate. In my "tipping bucket rain gauge" thread, @BulldogLowell had mentioned that an 8 inch opening on the funnel is typical for what is used commercially, so I went with that and designed this:
                                      0_1497912167330_upload-e18b1b01-0515-4e52-8869-e9ec3f454828
                                      0_1497912228058_upload-93bcefc3-6e26-4066-897f-6f7e668ec752
                                      Before I could print this on the 3D printer, I needed to print some different parts for my printer to allow for it to print the large size of the funnel. I also did some research on what type of plastic I should use before printing this monstrous part. Something I should have looked into more before printing the wind direction vane and wind speed rotor. Being that this will be outdoors in the sun it will need to have some UV resistance. I ended up settling on e-sun PETG filament. According to this review that I read, there was this statement that sold me on it:

                                      "It can also maintain the finished product's toughness and prevent it from turning into a yellowish color. PETG also contains UV absorber and can serve as a protective layer from the influence of ultraviolet light."

                                      At any rate, I just got my brand new roll of white and started the print:
                                      0_1497913538802_upload-f3954b84-720b-42d5-bfa9-6674b7d6e7c1
                                      I am running at a 0.24 layer height which should be fine for this. I am printing at 30 mm/s. Cura says 44 hours 40 minutes for the print, but the times from cura are usually a bit short. I am betting on about 48 hours total print time. This will be the largest print job I have ever had the printer do. The picture is at about 17 to 18 hours into the print.

                                      Tonight I will be tweaking the design of the base that will hold the tipping bucket and sensor. I did some test prints a while back of the basic parts of this to see how they would function, and I think they worked well. This is the basic design that I have as of now:
                                      0_1497915054416_upload-ac77942b-edef-44c7-b719-1c3f83dc2fca
                                      A few tweaks to this and it should be good. The main thing is going to be figuring out how I want this to mount/attach to the rest of the system with the wind sensors and the arduino. Since this will just have the reed sensor, I will need to account for how it will get wired to the arduino. I am open for any suggestions on how to attach this to the rest of the sensors. My plan was to have some PVC pipes as the supports and mount things to that. I will need to watch out for the drain holes when mounting.

                                      All in all I think the project is coming along despite having to put it on hold for a while. As always, I am open to any feedback or suggestions that anyone can give.

                                      Thanks for reading.

                                      Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                                        MasterCATZ
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                                        thanks for this
                                        one of my cups on my anemometer is broken might be able to tweak that file instead of starting from scratch now

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                                        • M MasterCATZ

                                          thanks for this
                                          one of my cups on my anemometer is broken might be able to tweak that file instead of starting from scratch now

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                                          @MasterCATZ the anemometer that I used was one that I found on thingiverse. The link is in the beginning of the thread, but I am sure you found that already. You may want to just create a whole new cup rotor for yours.

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