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💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors

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  • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

    Ok, so it was just a copy-paste leftover in the feature description from the nrf version.

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    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #7

    @martinhjelmare - It wasnt meant to make the project visible but I did unfortunately. I will correct as soon as possible
    I dont think its going to be that newbie friendly with a level converter for 5v so Im going to propose a 3.3v Pro mini only. Then I might add a voltage regulator with 5 and 3.3v in.

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      #8

      Well, since I posted the thread without it was finished (not usually my way of working) I can keep you updated on the work i guess... get input on the way.

      New schematics made... not final! Not implemented any booster yet.
      0_1494430456876_Sch_beta.JPG

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        #9

        @gohan - looking better on that SMA connector...
        0_1494441088218_Ant.JPG

        Anyone knows if its possible to have a SMA and Hole for DIY antenna on the same PCB like this?

        Edit:
        Well, so far tonight... a couple of hours work and im happy :) some small stuff to fix before production.
        0_1494445821526_SoFar.JPG

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          Looking forward to buy this board. Thanks for including SMA connector. Now it's complete board for me :-)

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            #11

            OK - beta release.

            I have updated the description, bom, gerber files and kicad files on openhardware.io.
            I have placed an order for fast delivery on pcbway.com but it will take some time before my RFM69 radios reach me from china-land. So I won't be able to test it for some time.

            IF you are curoius (and willing to debug and cut / resolder if there are errors) feel free to download the gerbers and place an order. I cant promise its 100% (or work as intended) and because of that I wont add them for sale on openhardware.io yet.

            0_1494528446674_3D.JPG

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @gohan - looking better on that SMA connector...
              0_1494441088218_Ant.JPG

              Anyone knows if its possible to have a SMA and Hole for DIY antenna on the same PCB like this?

              Edit:
              Well, so far tonight... a couple of hours work and im happy :) some small stuff to fix before production.
              0_1494445821526_SoFar.JPG

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              @sundberg84 I did this in my take of a SMA with a wire Antenna option:
              0_1494632694334_upload-ce399877-38ed-4251-924d-a293c9df13fb , you can see more details here https://www.openhardware.io/view/388/RFM69HW-Arduino-Mini-Pro-Shield.
              Haven't tried with the wire antenna trough.

              Domoticz, mysensors 2.3.1, RFM69 and RF24 sensors

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                Actually it seems a good solution to have the hole on the sma pad

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                • J jlaraujo

                  @sundberg84 I did this in my take of a SMA with a wire Antenna option:
                  0_1494632694334_upload-ce399877-38ed-4251-924d-a293c9df13fb , you can see more details here https://www.openhardware.io/view/388/RFM69HW-Arduino-Mini-Pro-Shield.
                  Haven't tried with the wire antenna trough.

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                  @jlaraujo , @gohan - I does look really good and effective!
                  Would be great if you could test it! At the moment I have placed my order so I cant change it for this run, but out of experience there will be other stuff I want to change.

                  Thank you for input! I greatly appreciate it!

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                      So, this temporary GW is now connected to Domoticz and running at 34800 baud rate (had some problems to figure this out...) I have one (fake) node connected but still have some range issues to sort out. Most likley because of the DIY antenna...

                      0_1497989310348_1.JPG

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                        I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                        Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

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                          #18

                          And now I also have a batterynode working... Power consumtion will come later... it works atleast :)
                          Someone that can guess what kind of power consumtion this setup would be (removing LED / regulator)?

                          0_1498418704326_battery.jpg0_1498419175750_1.JPG

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                          • sundberg84S sundberg84

                            I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                            Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

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                            @sundberg84 said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors:

                            I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                            Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

                            It's in datasheet that it is not 5v tolerant and absolute max voltage it's like 3.6v

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                            • gohanG gohan

                              @sundberg84 said in 💬 Easy/Newbie PCB (RFM69 HW/W edition) for MySensors:

                              I now have a gw and node working together on 3.3v and 433mhz (not HW version). I would say its quite safe to order the PCB if someone wants to try it out.

                              Note to myself and others... the RFM69 is really sensitive to high power. I fried one because I tried it on a Nano which i think is using 5v on its gpio. I was just thinking... hmm 3.3v - nano got one of those!

                              It's in datasheet that it is not 5v tolerant and absolute max voltage it's like 3.6v

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                              @gohan - I was fooled by that the Nano got a 3.3v output... stupid.

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                                #21

                                Yeah, that's a noob's mistake 😁

                                Pro mini 3.3v is the only way 😎

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                                  So I have made the adjustment for low power/battery mode (removed the LED, voltage regulator and sleeping most of the time).

                                  Im having a hard time to trust my Multimeter at this point... showing 5.1uA in sleep() mode while sending shows almost 2mA! This cant be right???

                                  0_1498592744379_1.jpg

                                  At the moment im all out of boosters... I was sure I had more so I didnt order.

                                  What I have done now is uploaded a sketch sleeping 15min, running the vcc check (since I dont have a booster) and reporting it back to me. Lets see what happens...

                                  0_1498592885312_1.jpg

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                                    To answer my own question I found this thread where he gets the exact same sleep current as I do (5.2uA). Still wondering about the high send current though.

                                    Is 2.0mA a normal power consumption for RFM69W when its transmitting? Will investigate but all input appreciated...

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                                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                      To answer my own question I found this thread where he gets the exact same sleep current as I do (5.2uA). Still wondering about the high send current though.

                                      Is 2.0mA a normal power consumption for RFM69W when its transmitting? Will investigate but all input appreciated...

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                                      @sundberg84 no. It should consume 16-45 mA. See datasheet.

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                                      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                        @sundberg84 no. It should consume 16-45 mA. See datasheet.

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                                        #25

                                        @mfalkvidd - thanks. Have to recheck... maybe 2mA was during loop and there was a peak up which I didnt notice when transmitting. * feeling a bit more confident *

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                                          Hello,

                                          Very nice job (as usual).
                                          I think the first version was produced with Eagle. Can you post the Eagle version of the schematics and pcb ?
                                          Thank you.

                                          Qq.

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