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  • Calvin KhungC Offline
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    Calvin Khung
    wrote on last edited by
    #1816

    Hello guys. I wished I have found this forum earlier. I'm currently trying to extract/dump a firmware from nRF51. Using OpenOCD and ST-Link V2. I am facing some problems and have posted it on stackexchange and stackoverflow. Here are the posts:

    https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/22897/blank-binwalk-and-binvis-io

    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59710114/dumping-nrf51s-firmware

    Hopefully someone here could help me. Thanks in advance

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    • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

      Hello guys. I wished I have found this forum earlier. I'm currently trying to extract/dump a firmware from nRF51. Using OpenOCD and ST-Link V2. I am facing some problems and have posted it on stackexchange and stackoverflow. Here are the posts:

      https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/22897/blank-binwalk-and-binvis-io

      https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59710114/dumping-nrf51s-firmware

      Hopefully someone here could help me. Thanks in advance

      NeverDieN Offline
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      NeverDie
      Hero Member
      wrote on last edited by
      #1817

      @Calvin-Khung a black magic probe would allow you to do that.

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      • Calvin KhungC Offline
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        Calvin Khung
        wrote on last edited by
        #1818

        @NeverDie What is the difference with a ST-Link? I mean, I've read the features on GitHub but I don't really get the differences though :sweat_smile: Sorry, as stated in both links, I'm still a noob.

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        • Calvin KhungC Offline
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          Calvin Khung
          wrote on last edited by
          #1819

          Oh, is the command mass erase the same as dump image? If I mass erase, will the bin file appear in the bin folder?

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          • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

            Oh, is the command mass erase the same as dump image? If I mass erase, will the bin file appear in the bin folder?

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            mr_red
            wrote on last edited by
            #1820

            @Calvin-Khung Hi Calvin, I read your comments here and on Stackoverflow/exchange. I honestly think that you dont have the right skills to do this. The exploited vulnerability in the blog is quite sofisticated. I think you have to start getting your debugger configured correctly. Your say you have an st-link v2 which lets me to belive you have a cheap chinese clone.
            This clone has not all debugging features included, as you might saw in my posts earlier. You are much better of with a Black magic probe or a J-Link.
            Have you got a halted NRF51 yet?

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            • mr_redM mr_red

              @Calvin-Khung Hi Calvin, I read your comments here and on Stackoverflow/exchange. I honestly think that you dont have the right skills to do this. The exploited vulnerability in the blog is quite sofisticated. I think you have to start getting your debugger configured correctly. Your say you have an st-link v2 which lets me to belive you have a cheap chinese clone.
              This clone has not all debugging features included, as you might saw in my posts earlier. You are much better of with a Black magic probe or a J-Link.
              Have you got a halted NRF51 yet?

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              Calvin Khung
              wrote on last edited by
              #1821

              @mr_red If it's a clone then that would probably explain why it wasn't successful. I've read a thing or two about the BMP. Do you think its a good idea to convert the cheap ST-Link V2 to a BMP? Found a blog about it.

              http://blog.linuxbits.io/2016/02/15/cheap-chinese-st-link-v-2-programmer-converted-to-black-magic-probe-debugger/

              J-Link is way too expensive so I won't even bother considering it. And I don't quite get what you mean but yeah, I did halt it during the process.

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              • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

                @mr_red If it's a clone then that would probably explain why it wasn't successful. I've read a thing or two about the BMP. Do you think its a good idea to convert the cheap ST-Link V2 to a BMP? Found a blog about it.

                http://blog.linuxbits.io/2016/02/15/cheap-chinese-st-link-v-2-programmer-converted-to-black-magic-probe-debugger/

                J-Link is way too expensive so I won't even bother considering it. And I don't quite get what you mean but yeah, I did halt it during the process.

                monteM Online
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                monte
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                #1822

                @Calvin-Khung you can convert st-link clone into BMP. The only problem would be if there is not enough flash on the chip. If I remember correctly, BMP firmware needs more than 64kb. But you will know for sure, if you'll try.

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                  Calvin Khung
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                  #1823

                  @monte For sure, I'll give it a try. Thanks for helping out guys!

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                  • JokgiJ Offline
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                    Jokgi
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                    #1824

                    Calvin, You cam buy a Nordic Development kit for about $50 dollars or less. It has the J-Link OB device on it for swd programming and debugging.

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                    • JokgiJ Jokgi

                      Calvin, You cam buy a Nordic Development kit for about $50 dollars or less. It has the J-Link OB device on it for swd programming and debugging.

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                      Nca78
                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1825

                      @Jokgi said in nRF5 action!:

                      Calvin, You cam buy a Nordic Development kit for about $50 dollars or less. It has the J-Link OB device on it for swd programming and debugging.

                      Best solution imho, never had a problem with it programming the nrf5 modules, just drag & drop from Windows file explorer.

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                      • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

                        @mr_red If it's a clone then that would probably explain why it wasn't successful. I've read a thing or two about the BMP. Do you think its a good idea to convert the cheap ST-Link V2 to a BMP? Found a blog about it.

                        http://blog.linuxbits.io/2016/02/15/cheap-chinese-st-link-v-2-programmer-converted-to-black-magic-probe-debugger/

                        J-Link is way too expensive so I won't even bother considering it. And I don't quite get what you mean but yeah, I did halt it during the process.

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                        Jokgi
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                        #1826

                        @Calvin-Khung
                        Jokgi
                        Jokgi about 2 hours ago

                        Calvin, You can buy a Nordic Development kit for about $50 dollars or less. It has the J-Link OB device on it for SWD programming and debugging.

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                        • NeverDieN Offline
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                          NeverDie
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1827

                          I agree with Jokgi, but nonetheless for anyone interested in the Black Magic Probe alternative, here's an article on how to make a BMP from a $2 Blue Pill board:
                          https://medium.com/@paramaggarwal/converting-an-stm32f103-board-to-a-black-magic-probe-c013cf2cc38c

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                            orhanyor
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                            #1828

                            i use $10 replica Jlink from aliexpress works ok with the latest firmware without an issue. i use it just to flash bootloaders to cortex m0-m4 and nrf52's but it should work for any task that a genuine jlink can do.

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                              Jon Raymond
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                              #1829

                              There also is an "Education" version of the Jlink for $20 if you want an official one with access to nRF Command Line Tools.

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                              • J Jon Raymond

                                There also is an "Education" version of the Jlink for $20 if you want an official one with access to nRF Command Line Tools.

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                                Jokgi
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1830

                                @Jon-Raymond Correct. It is a nice product for the price and the intended user. As Jon mentioned, you can use the command line tools as well as nRFconnect and also has direct hooks into the Segger Embedded Studio which is a fully functional IDE / compiler/ Debugger and is free when used with Nordic Semi devices.
                                Plus there is no license conflict as there is when using one of these cheap overseas j-link knock offs. (Which could "break / brick" anytime doing a "official" Segger update on these clones.)

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                                • orhanyorO orhanyor

                                  i use $10 replica Jlink from aliexpress works ok with the latest firmware without an issue. i use it just to flash bootloaders to cortex m0-m4 and nrf52's but it should work for any task that a genuine jlink can do.

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                                  Calvin Khung
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1831

                                  @orhanyor good to hear! i ordered that as well since just to try it out in hope that it would work. now that you've said that, maybe i shouldn't worry too much then.

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                                  • Calvin KhungC Calvin Khung

                                    @orhanyor good to hear! i ordered that as well since just to try it out in hope that it would work. now that you've said that, maybe i shouldn't worry too much then.

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                                    orhanyor
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1832

                                    @Calvin-Khung Well im actually surprised that it still works because people are reporting they might stop working after a firmware update so you might wanna hold back on that other than that it works surprisingly well. i bought another as my back up plan which im expecting it in these days. its abit different than the one i have. this one is much cheaper and looks like jlink edu mini rather than a normal j link with a black box.. i ll see if it works when i receive it, here it is.
                                    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32669702891.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d4Fx7g9

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                                      orhanyor
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                                      #1833

                                      i just received this little thing, tested it with atmel studio just to flash some M4 boards and it worked nicely. i wanted to update its firmware via jlink(playing with fire) but it didnt let me saying its up to date so its all ok i guess. it only has 4 pins 3v, gnd, swdio, swclk. for $2.50 in total with shipping its a steal :)
                                      IMG_3313.jpg

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                                      • orhanyorO orhanyor

                                        i just received this little thing, tested it with atmel studio just to flash some M4 boards and it worked nicely. i wanted to update its firmware via jlink(playing with fire) but it didnt let me saying its up to date so its all ok i guess. it only has 4 pins 3v, gnd, swdio, swclk. for $2.50 in total with shipping its a steal :)
                                        IMG_3313.jpg

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                                        Jon Raymond
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1834

                                        @orhanyor Is it just me or does that micro usb connector look like it should be mounted upside down so it actually nests into the cutout in the board below it? Of course the pinout would be mirrored but it seems like a layout issue that they just ran with.

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                                          orhanyor
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                                          #1835

                                          usb connector is actually nested as far as i can see but it dips 1-2 mm only. weird but it works so its all good :)

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