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Cant even get my first node working...

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    #14

    can you post a picture of those radios?

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    • gohanG gohan

      can you post a picture of those radios?

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      royson84
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      #15

      @gohan Sure. I have tried 9 or 10 out of 13 now i think. With different libs and sketches that google found for me.

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        2_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235131.jpg 1_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235309.jpg 0_1500328749598_IMG_20170717_235509.jpg

        The first and second picture is from a seller called axeprice on ebay. Two different orders with a couple of weeks apart.
        The third picture is from a swedish shop called m.nu, great shop I might add.

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          How much were they? They look quite on the cheap

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          • gohanG gohan

            How much were they? They look quite on the cheap

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            @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
            Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

            https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
            "swedish" one.

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              @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
              Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

              https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
              "swedish" one.

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              m26872
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              @royson84 Where in Sweden are you? Maybe someone near can help you.

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                @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                "swedish" one.

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                @royson84 - do yo have a multimeter and can comfirm there are power to the radio? If you are using the PCB you need to have atleast one jumper connected (as we spoke about - so I suspect that is ok). Could you post a picture of the complete setup?

                I live pretty near you (1.5h) in worst case scenario ;)

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                  @gohan http://www.ebay.com/itm/400594940658?rmvSB=true
                  Its the radios linked in mysensors store...

                  https://www.m.nu/breakout-boards/nrf24l01
                  "swedish" one.

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                  @royson84 10 modules for 10$ are definitely fake clones I'd say but at least they should power up

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                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                    @royson84 - do yo have a multimeter and can comfirm there are power to the radio? If you are using the PCB you need to have atleast one jumper connected (as we spoke about - so I suspect that is ok). Could you post a picture of the complete setup?

                    I live pretty near you (1.5h) in worst case scenario ;)

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                    @sundberg84 I do have a multimeter, but haven't used it in ages so I'm not sure how to honestly. =D

                    On the PCB I made all the connections by soldering but I have put that aside for now. Figure I must find out what I'm doing wrong with the radios first. Now when I'm trying to make a new serial gateway I've done so both with some soldering and some duponts.

                    Today, as a bit of a last restore, I'm gonna remove my radio from the ethernet gateway, which doesn't give me any failures in debug, and try the same setup with that. If that doesn't work, well..hehe.. Stuff is gonna break :smile:

                    I really appreciate all your help and suggestions guys!!

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                      @sundberg84 I do have a multimeter, but haven't used it in ages so I'm not sure how to honestly. =D

                      On the PCB I made all the connections by soldering but I have put that aside for now. Figure I must find out what I'm doing wrong with the radios first. Now when I'm trying to make a new serial gateway I've done so both with some soldering and some duponts.

                      Today, as a bit of a last restore, I'm gonna remove my radio from the ethernet gateway, which doesn't give me any failures in debug, and try the same setup with that. If that doesn't work, well..hehe.. Stuff is gonna break :smile:

                      I really appreciate all your help and suggestions guys!!

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                      #23

                      @royson84 - take out your mulitimeter and set it to DC (see here for symbol)

                      Put the black lead to gnd on the radio and the red on positive:
                      0_1500367572661_v1.JPG

                      Also make sure the capacitors is aligned right!

                      If possible post a photo of the hole pcb :)

                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                      RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        Ok, so it seems that I'm suffering from the ancient sickness of dumb-ass...

                        While connecting the radio from the gw, which has a little table on the back explaining all the pins, I realised that when connecting my other radios I forgot the mirror effect and therefore switched some of the connections :cry:

                        Now, when connected as they should, they work. Haha.

                        Also @sundberg84 i measured the voltage and on the PCB I only get about 0.03V on the radio but at the pro mini its 3.3 or thereabouts. Gonna have a look at the connections tonight.

                        About debugging the PCB. Do I have to remove the battery jumper when connecting the ftdi? Or do they not interfere if the battery's are off?

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                          Ok, so it seems that I'm suffering from the ancient sickness of dumb-ass...

                          While connecting the radio from the gw, which has a little table on the back explaining all the pins, I realised that when connecting my other radios I forgot the mirror effect and therefore switched some of the connections :cry:

                          Now, when connected as they should, they work. Haha.

                          Also @sundberg84 i measured the voltage and on the PCB I only get about 0.03V on the radio but at the pro mini its 3.3 or thereabouts. Gonna have a look at the connections tonight.

                          About debugging the PCB. Do I have to remove the battery jumper when connecting the ftdi? Or do they not interfere if the battery's are off?

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                          @royson84 - You can only have one power source so if you are using a battery make sure to disconnect one of them (normally i do not connect the voltage from the ftdi to make it as "real" as possible.) You might want to connect the ground to the ftdi though because otherwise you might get hard to read the serial output.

                          You should have the jumper connected at all times but if you power from the ftdi you change it to REG. Bat will feed the radio from the battery which is another circuit than the pro mini.

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            #26

                            0_1500410083134_IMG_20170718_222004.jpg
                            0_1500410099031_IMG_20170718_222033.jpg

                            Heres pictures of one of the PCBs @sundberg84. Not sure why the power isnt reaching the radio in its full capacity. Have i not been careful enough with my soldering?

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                              0_1500410083134_IMG_20170718_222004.jpg
                              0_1500410099031_IMG_20170718_222033.jpg

                              Heres pictures of one of the PCBs @sundberg84. Not sure why the power isnt reaching the radio in its full capacity. Have i not been careful enough with my soldering?

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                              #27

                              @royson84 the bat jumper isn't shorted on these pictures it looks like. You need to make a connection between the pins.

                              Also there are two solder blobs that might cause grounding. (Vcc on MysX connector and tx on the arduino both on the back)

                              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                              RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                              • R royson84

                                0_1500410083134_IMG_20170718_222004.jpg
                                0_1500410099031_IMG_20170718_222033.jpg

                                Heres pictures of one of the PCBs @sundberg84. Not sure why the power isnt reaching the radio in its full capacity. Have i not been careful enough with my soldering?

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                                #28

                                @royson84 you can use the multimeter and connect/hold black to ground and measure your way through the circuit to see where the power cuts. For the radio you can go Vin, jumper, radio.

                                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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