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  • gohanG Offline
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    Your only option is to have repeaters

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      Here are the directional antenna yagi arrays. You need one each end for best range and they need to be able to 'see' each other (no metal buildings in the way)

      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-4GHz-13DBI-15DBI-Yagi-WLAN-WiFi-Wireless-Antenna-for-Router-A1Q5/112448960487?epid=2078505269&hash=item1a2e7af7e7:g:HhIAAOSwwzhZSDda

      Wiht two of these and 2 pa/lna boards you should get many km in open space!!!

      hth

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        The problem is that you would use signal around that antenna if you have other sensors in the building

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          @gohan,

          My intention was for @minsa to use this only for the long range link, the receiving pro=mini could be a gw for the garage sensor(s). Everything else would remian the same.

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            @gohan,

            My intention was for @minsa to use this only for the long range link, the receiving pro=mini could be a gw for the garage sensor(s). Everything else would remian the same.

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            @skywatch So I would have 2 gateways? One for indoor sensors and one for outdoor sensors?

            Would it be possible to have NRF24 and RFM69 chips on the same gateway?
            So I could use the RFM69 with nodes that are farther away?

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            • M Misna

              @skywatch So I would have 2 gateways? One for indoor sensors and one for outdoor sensors?

              Would it be possible to have NRF24 and RFM69 chips on the same gateway?
              So I could use the RFM69 with nodes that are farther away?

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              @Misna Look at the Sensebender Gateway...

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              • M Misna

                @skywatch So I would have 2 gateways? One for indoor sensors and one for outdoor sensors?

                Would it be possible to have NRF24 and RFM69 chips on the same gateway?
                So I could use the RFM69 with nodes that are farther away?

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                @Misna

                Adding a gateway means that your current system stays the same and is not changed in any way - so you have time to experiment with the new additions.

                I have never used rfm69 so can't say on those, sorry.

                I will say that you probably can't have 2 radios on one gw. But it might be possible.
                With MyController you can have multiple gateways for the controller and that is what you will need.
                As per above, I would just add another pro mini to act as a second gw for the longer range testing as that will not impact on your current setup.

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                  @Misna

                  Adding a gateway means that your current system stays the same and is not changed in any way - so you have time to experiment with the new additions.

                  I have never used rfm69 so can't say on those, sorry.

                  I will say that you probably can't have 2 radios on one gw. But it might be possible.
                  With MyController you can have multiple gateways for the controller and that is what you will need.
                  As per above, I would just add another pro mini to act as a second gw for the longer range testing as that will not impact on your current setup.

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                  @skywatch said in Getting started:

                  e 2 radios on one gw. But it might be possible.

                  At least by now, one can only use one transport layer per Node/Gateway.

                  Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                  • M Misna

                    @skywatch So I would have 2 gateways? One for indoor sensors and one for outdoor sensors?

                    Would it be possible to have NRF24 and RFM69 chips on the same gateway?
                    So I could use the RFM69 with nodes that are farther away?

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                    @Misna said in Getting started:

                    stick antenna.

                    Is it a PA LNA version?
                    Btw I guess it is normal that a normal nrf24 can't reach between 2 buildings that far. If you can use 2 PA LNA radios it should work better

                    you can compile and run 2 different instances of the raspberry gateway in 2 separate folders. There is an openhardware project for a raspberry hat

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                      @Misna said in Getting started:

                      stick antenna.

                      Is it a PA LNA version?
                      Btw I guess it is normal that a normal nrf24 can't reach between 2 buildings that far. If you can use 2 PA LNA radios it should work better

                      you can compile and run 2 different instances of the raspberry gateway in 2 separate folders. There is an openhardware project for a raspberry hat

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                      @gohan ok but at the moment the gateway runs on Arduino Uno. So I have to switch to RasPi?
                      Or can I buy another Uno and use RFM69 with it? But does Home Assistant support multiple MySensors gateways?

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                        You can't do it on an arduino. Since you are going to run a controller it could make sense having a raspberry. Running 2 separare instances it would not be a problem for HA as you would have to add the 2 gateways anyway like if they were on separate hw

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