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  • scalzS Offline
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    scalz
    Hardware Contributor
    wrote on last edited by scalz
    #5

    hmm, I think there is maybe a little bug.

    I don't remember how exactly works uno/nano ethernet gw in softspi mode. When I tested it, I used hw spi for both.

    Just to be sure, have you modified the gw sketch? (it's good habit, for helping, to post the problematic sketch so we can check defines).

    If that's the case, that

    • you haven't modified the gw sketch
    • and followed connection here https://www.mysensors.org/build/ethernet_gateway

    could you try to change two lines in the following file:

    • path is your Mydocuments\Arduino\libraries\Mysensors\drivers\rfm69\new\RFM69_new.cpp

    It's quick&dirty (not digged for a cleaner solution), but you just need to hack 2lines, for a simple test.

    Line 46, change:

    #if defined (SREG) && !defined(SPI_HAS_TRANSACTION)
    

    by

    #if defined (SREG)	&& (!defined(SPI_HAS_TRANSACTION) || defined(MY_SOFTSPI))
    

    And finally, line 50, change:

    #if defined (SPCR) && defined (SPSR) && !defined(SPI_HAS_TRANSACTION)
    

    by

    #if defined (SPCR) && defined (SPSR) && (!defined(SPI_HAS_TRANSACTION) || defined(MY_SOFTSPI))
    

    This should compile, I have no idea if it will run ok as I have no time to prepare a test setup for the moment.

    Please tell if it's ok or not. I hope this will help

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    • gohanG gohan

      What arduino ide version do you have? What Arduino Boards Definitions are you using? Did you try compiling for pro mini?

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      firstof9
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      @gohan

      @gohan said in New RFM69 driver error:

      What arduino ide version do you have?

      Arduino: 1.8.5

      @gohan said in New RFM69 driver error:

      What Arduino Boards Definitions are you using?
      Arduino AVR Boards 1.6.20 (for my Uno with W5100 Ethernet shield)
      Adafruit AVR Boards 1.4.12 (for the Feather boards 32u4)

      @gohan said in New RFM69 driver error:

      Did you try compiling for pro mini?
      No as i don't have or use Pro Minis

      It does compile for my Nano sensor just fine.
      So far the error's only occurred when trying to compile for the Uno.

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      • scalzS Offline
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        scalz
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        I think it happens because of the softspi define, in the w5100 ethernet gw sketch.

        could you try my test above please ?

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        • scalzS scalz

          I think it happens because of the softspi define, in the w5100 ethernet gw sketch.

          could you try my test above please ?

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          firstof9
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @scalz
          Your modifications seemed to have resolved the issue.

          Also I've made this modification to MyTransport.cpp so it resets the radio on init:

          void stInitTransition(void)
          {
          	#if defined(ADAFRUIT_RFM69)
          	pinMode(9, OUTPUT);
          	digitalWrite(9, HIGH);
          	delay(100);
          	digitalWrite(9, LOW);
          	delay(100);
          	#endif
          	TRANSPORT_DEBUG(PSTR("TSM:INIT\n"));
          

          Sketch for reference:

          // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
          #define MY_DEBUG
          
          // Enable Adafruit RFM69 breakout fix
          #define ADAFRUIT_RFM69
          
          // Enable and select radio type attached
          #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
          
          #define MY_RFM69_NEW_DRIVER // ATC on RFM69 works only with the new driver
          #define MY_RFM69_ATC_TARGET_RSSI_DBM (-70)  // target RSSI -70dBm
          #define MY_RFM69_MAX_POWER_LEVEL_DBM (10) // amx. TX power 10dBm = 10mW
          
          #define MY_IS_RFM69HW  // Mandatory if you radio module is the high power version (RFM69HW and RFM69HCW), Comment it if it's not the case
          #define MY_RF69_FREQUENCY RFM69_915MHZ  // Define for frequency setting. Needed if you're radio module isn't 868Mhz (868Mhz is default in lib)
          
          #define MY_RF69_SPI_CS 4
          #define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN 2
          //#define MY_RF69_IRQ_NUM 0
          
          //#define W5100SPIPATCH
          
          #define SKETCH_NAME "MySensors Ethernet Gateway"
          #define SKETCH_MAJOR "0"
          #define SKETCH_MINOR "5"
          
          // How many clients should be able to connect to this gateway (default 1)
          #define MY_GATEWAY_MAX_CLIENTS 2
          
          // Enable gateway ethernet module type
          #define MY_GATEWAY_W5100
          
          // Enable Soft SPI for NRF radio (note different radio wiring is required)
          // The W5100 ethernet module seems to have a hard time co-operate with 
          // radio on the same spi bus.
          #if !defined(MY_W5100_SPI_EN) && !defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_SAMD)
            #define MY_SOFTSPI
            #define MY_SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN 14
            #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN 15
            #define MY_SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN 16
          #endif  
          
          // Enable to UDP
          //#define MY_USE_UDP
          
          #define MY_IP_ADDRESS 192,168,1,204   // If this is disabled, DHCP is used to retrieve address
          // Renewal period if using DHCP
          //#define MY_IP_RENEWAL_INTERVAL 60000
          // The port to keep open on node server mode / or port to contact in client mode
          #define MY_PORT 5003
          
          // Controller ip address. Enables client mode (default is "server" mode).
          // Also enable this if MY_USE_UDP is used and you want sensor data sent somewhere.
          //#define MY_CONTROLLER_IP_ADDRESS 192, 168, 178, 254
          
          // The MAC address can be anything you want but should be unique on your network.
          // Newer boards have a MAC address printed on the underside of the PCB, which you can (optionally) use.
          // Note that most of the Ardunio examples use  "DEAD BEEF FEED" for the MAC address.
          #define MY_MAC_ADDRESS 0xDE, 0xAD, 0xBE, 0xEF, 0xFE, 0xED
          
          // Enable inclusion mode
          #define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_FEATURE
          // Enable Inclusion mode button on gateway
          //#define MY_INCLUSION_BUTTON_FEATURE
          // Set inclusion mode duration (in seconds)
          #define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_DURATION 60
          // Digital pin used for inclusion mode button
          //#define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_BUTTON_PIN  3
          
          // Set blinking period
          #define MY_DEFAULT_LED_BLINK_PERIOD 300
          
          // Flash leds on rx/tx/err
          // Uncomment to override default HW configurations
          //#define MY_DEFAULT_ERR_LED_PIN 5  // Error led pin
          #define MY_DEFAULT_RX_LED_PIN  6  // Receive led pin
          //#define MY_DEFAULT_TX_LED_PIN  7  // Transmit led pin
          
          #if defined(MY_USE_UDP)
          #include <EthernetUdp.h>
          #endif
          #include <Ethernet.h>
          #include <MySensors.h>
          
          void presentation()  
          { 
            // Send the sketch version information to the gateway
            sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_MAJOR"."SKETCH_MINOR);
          }
          
          void setup()
          {
          }
          
          void loop()
          {
          }
          
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          • scalzS Offline
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            scalz
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by scalz
            #9

            @firstof9
            reset is already implemented in rf69 driver (see here https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/master/drivers/RFM69/new/RFM69_new.cpp#L196 )
            in your sketch you just need to define it like this

            #define MY_RFM69_RST_PIN  your_reset_pin
            

            https://www.mysensors.org/apidocs/group__RFM69SettingGrpPub.html#ga0837813278d8622eb317a3bac22963e7

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            • scalzS scalz

              @firstof9
              reset is already implemented in rf69 driver (see here https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/master/drivers/RFM69/new/RFM69_new.cpp#L196 )
              in your sketch you just need to define it like this

              #define MY_RFM69_RST_PIN  your_reset_pin
              

              https://www.mysensors.org/apidocs/group__RFM69SettingGrpPub.html#ga0837813278d8622eb317a3bac22963e7

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              firstof9
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @scalz
              I've updated my sketch to include that for the new driver. Thank you.
              I had to use that mod for the older driver.

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              • scalzS scalz

                @firstof9
                reset is already implemented in rf69 driver (see here https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/blob/master/drivers/RFM69/new/RFM69_new.cpp#L196 )
                in your sketch you just need to define it like this

                #define MY_RFM69_RST_PIN  your_reset_pin
                

                https://www.mysensors.org/apidocs/group__RFM69SettingGrpPub.html#ga0837813278d8622eb317a3bac22963e7

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                firstof9
                wrote on last edited by firstof9
                #11

                @scalz Trying to update all my nodes to the new driver, getting this on the gateway now:

                0 MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RPNGA---,VER=2.2.0
                3 TSM:INIT
                4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                5 RFM69:INIT
                11 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=4,IQP=2,IQN=0,RST=9
                116 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                118 !RFM69:INIT:SANCHK FAIL
                120 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                122 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                124 TSM:FAIL:DIS
                126 TSF:TDI:TSL
                128 RFM69:RSL
                

                Same sketch as previously posted (with RFM69 verbose defined for more info). Any ideas?

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                • firstof9F firstof9

                  @scalz Trying to update all my nodes to the new driver, getting this on the gateway now:

                  0 MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RPNGA---,VER=2.2.0
                  3 TSM:INIT
                  4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                  5 RFM69:INIT
                  11 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=4,IQP=2,IQN=0,RST=9
                  116 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                  118 !RFM69:INIT:SANCHK FAIL
                  120 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                  122 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                  124 TSM:FAIL:DIS
                  126 TSF:TDI:TSL
                  128 RFM69:RSL
                  

                  Same sketch as previously posted (with RFM69 verbose defined for more info). Any ideas?

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                  firstof9
                  wrote on last edited by firstof9
                  #12

                  Jumped the gun on a "fixed" post :(

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                  • firstof9F firstof9

                    @scalz Trying to update all my nodes to the new driver, getting this on the gateway now:

                    0 MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RPNGA---,VER=2.2.0
                    3 TSM:INIT
                    4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                    5 RFM69:INIT
                    11 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=4,IQP=2,IQN=0,RST=9
                    116 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                    118 !RFM69:INIT:SANCHK FAIL
                    120 !TSM:INIT:TSP FAIL
                    122 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                    124 TSM:FAIL:DIS
                    126 TSF:TDI:TSL
                    128 RFM69:RSL
                    

                    Same sketch as previously posted (with RFM69 verbose defined for more info). Any ideas?

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                    Nightbodom
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    I have the same error as @firstof9. I have tried all the combinations of arduino (uno, nano) and rfm69, rfm69hw and node, gw sketch and nodemanager... but always got this SANCHK FAIL error...

                    I solder all rfm69s to nrf2rfm69 converter by @tbowmo

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                    • N Nightbodom

                      I have the same error as @firstof9. I have tried all the combinations of arduino (uno, nano) and rfm69, rfm69hw and node, gw sketch and nodemanager... but always got this SANCHK FAIL error...

                      I solder all rfm69s to nrf2rfm69 converter by @tbowmo

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                      scalz
                      Hardware Contributor
                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                      #14

                      @nightbodom
                      If i understand it well, i think firstof9 issue is solved.
                      Regarding yours, please post more infos else we can't help much.. : hw used, sketch so we can check your defines&code, logs..

                      Note: it is not recommanded (explained in mysensors docs) to use rfm69 which is not 5V tolerant (3.6v max), with uno/nano which are 5v signal levels boards (SPI is running 5v). For this you would need level shifting board.
                      Maybe your modules are not dead because of these tests but better be careful.
                      To be sure, about your modules&sketch, you could try with arduino mini pro 3v/8mhz boards.

                      SANCHK FAIL means you need to check wiring or change module

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                      • scalzS scalz

                        @nightbodom
                        If i understand it well, i think firstof9 issue is solved.
                        Regarding yours, please post more infos else we can't help much.. : hw used, sketch so we can check your defines&code, logs..

                        Note: it is not recommanded (explained in mysensors docs) to use rfm69 which is not 5V tolerant (3.6v max), with uno/nano which are 5v signal levels boards (SPI is running 5v). For this you would need level shifting board.
                        Maybe your modules are not dead because of these tests but better be careful.
                        To be sure, about your modules&sketch, you could try with arduino mini pro 3v/8mhz boards.

                        SANCHK FAIL means you need to check wiring or change module

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                        Nightbodom
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @scalz thanks for advice... I connect modules like sheme on mysensors and watch only for Vcc to be 3V. I try with NodeMCU for gateway and pro mini for node and modules are OK. I use NodeManager for sketches.

                        But I have another problem. If I use on both (GW and node) rfm69 the range of connection is about 10 -15m trough the wall. So I try to extend range with use of rfm69hw. If I use both hw modules there is no connection even nodes are one by another. If I use one ordinary and one hw module, the range is max. about 1m.

                        Node is connected through FDTI and NodeMCU is on USB.

                        node log:

                        ,ft=0,st=OK:4294967270
                        0 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RPNNA---,VER=2.2.0
                        43 MCO:BGN:BFR
                        NodeManager v1.7
                        LIB V=2.2.0 R=P E=- T=N A=A S=- B=-
                        BATTERY I=201 P=30 T=38
                        SIGNAL I=202 P=33 T=37
                        RADIO...108 TSM:INIT
                        188 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                        206 RFM69:INIT
                        223 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=10,IQP=2,IQN=0
                        262 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                        288 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                        311 TSM:INIT:STATID=101
                        335 TSF:SID:OK,ID=101
                        358 TSM:FPAR
                        372 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        411 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        1572 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=0,RSSI=-31
                        1615 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-101,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                        1675 TSF:MSG:FPAR OK,ID=0,D=1
                        2490 TSM:FPAR:OK
                        2506 TSM:ID
                        2521 TSM:ID:OK
                        2535 TSM:UPL
                        2549 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        2633 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=3,RSSI=-73
                        2676 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-73,tR=-80,TXL=4
                        2721 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=4 dBm
                        2750 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1
                        2824 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=0,RSSI=-31
                        2867 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-101,s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                        2926 TSF:MSG:PONG RECV,HP=1
                        2957 TSM:UPL:OK
                        2973 TSM:READY:ID=101,PAR=0,DIS=1
                        3010 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        3092 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=5,RSSI=-72
                        3135 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-72,tR=-80,TXL=3
                        3180 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=3 dBm
                        3209 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0100
                        3289 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=0,RSSI=-31
                        3330 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-101,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                        3393 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        3497 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=7,RSSI=-74
                        3540 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-74,tR=-80,TXL=2
                        3586 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=2 dBm
                        3614 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.2.0
                        3694 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        3778 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=8,RSSI=-73
                        3821 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-73,tR=-80,TXL=1
                        3866 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=1 dBm
                        3895 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0
                        OK
                        5969 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        6057 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=9,RSSI=-72
                        6100 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-72,tR=-80,TXL=0
                        6146 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=0 dBm
                        6174 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=17,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:NodeManagerSENSOR
                        6268 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        6350 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=10,RSSI=-73
                        6395 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-73,tR=-80,TXL=-1
                        6440 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=-1 dBm
                        6471 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1.0
                        PRES I=201 T=30 D=BATTERY
                        6549 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        6660 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=11,RSSI=-72
                        6705 RFM69:ATC:ADJ TXL,cR=-72,tR=-80,TXL=-2
                        6750 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=-2 dBm
                        6780 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=201,c=0,t=30,pt=0,l=7,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:BATTERY
                        PRES I=202 T=33 D=SIGNAL
                        6862 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        6973 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=12,RSSI=-73
                        7016 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=0,t=33,pt=0,l=6,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:SIGNAL
                        READY
                        
                        7096 MCO:REG:REQ
                        7124 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        7206 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=13,RSSI=-72
                        7251 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2
                        7327 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=0,RSSI=-30
                        7368 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-101,s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                        7430 MCO:PIM:NODE REG=1
                        7454 MCO:BGN:STP
                        MY I=101 M=1
                        INT P=3 M=255
                        INT P=2 M=255
                        7475 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                        BATTERY V=3.26 %=94
                        7616 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        7720 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=15,RSSI=-73
                        7763 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:94
                        SEND D=0 I=201 C=0 T=38 S= I=0 F=3.26
                        7841 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        7964 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=16,RSSI=-71
                        8007 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=201,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:3.26
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        8089 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        8224 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=17,RSSI=-74
                        8269 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        13357 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        13494 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=18,RSSI=-70
                        13541 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        18628 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        18765 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=19,RSSI=-71
                        18812 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        23898 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        24035 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=0,SEQ=20,RSSI=-69
                        24082 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        29169 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        29462 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        29485 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=-1 dBm
                        29523 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        29763 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        29786 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=0 dBm
                        29855 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        30095 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        30117 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=1 dBm
                        30146 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        30388 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        30410 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=2 dBm
                        30480 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        30720 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        30742 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=3 dBm
                        30803 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        31043 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        31066 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=4 dBm
                        31135 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=0,st=NACK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        36227 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        36519 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        36542 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                        36579 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        36818 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        36841 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=6 dBm
                        36878 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        37117 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        37140 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=7 dBm
                        37201 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        37441 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        37464 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=8 dBm
                        37533 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        37773 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        37795 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=9 dBm
                        37824 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        38066 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        38088 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=10 dBm
                        38160 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=1,st=NACK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        43251 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        43544 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        43567 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=11 dBm
                        43606 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        43845 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        43868 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=12 dBm
                        43939 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        44179 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        44201 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=13 dBm
                        44240 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        44480 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        44503 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=14 dBm
                        44566 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        44806 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        44828 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=15 dBm
                        44900 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        45139 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        45162 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=16 dBm
                        45201 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=2,st=NACK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        50292 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        50585 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        50608 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=17 dBm
                        50638 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        50878 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        50900 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=18 dBm
                        50964 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        51204 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        51226 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=19 dBm
                        51298 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        51537 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        51560 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=20 dBm
                        51599 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        51838 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        51861 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        51918 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        52158 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        52180 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        52238 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=3,st=NACK:4294967270
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        57329 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        57622 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        57645 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        57677 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        57917 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        57939 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        57997 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        58236 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        58259 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        58316 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        58556 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        58578 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        58636 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        58875 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        58898 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        58955 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        59195 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        59217 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        59275 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0,ft=4,st=NACK:4294967270
                        BATTERY V=3.26 %=94
                        60071 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        60332 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        60354 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        60411 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        60651 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        60674 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        60731 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        60971 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        60993 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        61050 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        61290 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        61313 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        61370 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        61609 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        61632 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        61689 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        61929 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        61952 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        62009 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=5,st=NACK:94
                        SEND D=0 I=201 C=0 T=38 S= I=0 F=3.26
                        62089 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=0
                        62369 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        62392 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        62425 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=1
                        62664 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        62687 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        62711 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=2
                        62951 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        62973 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        63006 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=3
                        63246 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        63268 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        63293 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=4
                        63533 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        63555 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        63612 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=0,RETRY=5
                        63852 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        63875 RFM69:PTX:NO ADJ
                        63932 !TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-0-0,s=201,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=6,st=NACK:3.26
                        64014 !TSM:READY:UPL FAIL,SNP
                        64045 TSM:FPAR
                        64061 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        64104 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=7,st=OK:
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        64366 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        66183 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        66209 TSM:FPAR
                        66224 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        66267 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        68345 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        68370 TSM:FPAR
                        68386 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        68429 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        69441 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        70508 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        70533 TSM:FPAR
                        70549 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        70592 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        72671 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
                        72691 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
                        72714 TSM:FAIL:DIS
                        72734 TSF:TDI:TSL
                        72755 RFM69:RSL
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        74516 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        79591 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        82774 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
                        82798 TSM:INIT
                        82812 RFM69:INIT
                        82831 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=10,IQP=2,IQN=0
                        82874 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                        82903 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                        82927 TSM:INIT:STATID=101
                        82954 TSF:SID:OK,ID=101
                        82980 TSM:FPAR
                        82995 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        83038 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        84666 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        85118 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        85143 TSM:FPAR
                        85159 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        85202 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        87281 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        87306 TSM:FPAR
                        87322 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        87365 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        89444 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
                        89468 TSM:FPAR
                        89485 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=255,RETRY=0
                        89536 TSF:MSG:SEND,101-101-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        89741 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        91615 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
                        91637 TSM:FAIL:CNT=2
                        91658 TSM:FAIL:DIS
                        91678 TSF:TDI:TSL
                        91699 RFM69:RSL
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        94814 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        SIGNAL V=-26
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        99887 !TSF:SND:TNR
                        
                        

                        On 29000 I move gateway far away on another side of laptop..

                        An here is GW log:

                        62 MCO:BGN:INIT GW,CP=RPNGE---,VER=2.2.0
                        105 MCO:BGN:BFR
                        NodeManager v1.7
                        LIB V=2.2.0 R=P E=- T=G A=E S=- B=-
                        SIGNAL I=202 P=33 T=37
                        RADIO...122 TSF:LRT:OK
                        228 TSM:INIT
                        242 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                        260 RFM69:INIT
                        276 RFM69:INIT:PIN,CS=15,IQP=5,IQN=5
                        315 RFM69:PTX:LEVEL=5 dBm
                        342 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                        363 TSM:INIT:GW MODE
                        385 TSM:READY:ID=0,PAR=0,DIS=0
                        418 MCO:REG:NOT NEEDED
                        944 GWT:TIN:CONNECTING...
                        971 GWT:TIN:IP=192.168.1.30
                        1001 MCO:BGN:STP
                        MY I=0 M=255
                        INT P=3 M=255
                        INT P=2 M=255
                        1019 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                        SIGNAL V=0
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        1571 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                        1632 TSF:MSG:BC
                        1649 TSF:MSG:FPAR REQ,ID=101
                        1679 TSF:CKU:OK,FCTRL
                        1702 TSF:MSG:GWL OK
                        2422 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=101,RETRY=0
                        2662 !RFM69:SWR:NACK
                        2692 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=101,RETRY=1
                        2774 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=101,SEQ=1,RSSI=-31
                        2819 TSF:MSG:SEND,0-0-101-101,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0
                        3747 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-73
                        3791 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                        3853 TSF:MSG:PINGED,ID=101,HP=1
                        3891 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=101,RETRY=0
                        4026 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=101,SEQ=3,RSSI=-31
                        4071 TSF:MSG:SEND,0-0-101-101,s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1
                        4206 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-72
                        4251 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                        4316 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=101,RETRY=0
                        4489 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=101,SEQ=5,RSSI=-31
                        4534 TSF:MSG:SEND,0-0-101-101,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0100
                        4612 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-74
                        4656 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0:2.2.0
                        RECV S=101 I=255 C=0 T=17 P=2.2.0
                        4891 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-73
                        4936 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                        RECV S=101 I=255 C=3 T=6 P=
                        7172 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-72
                        7216 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=17,sg=0:NodeManagerSENSOR
                        RECV S=101 I=255 C=3 T=11 P=NodeManagerSENSOR
                        7465 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-73
                        7509 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0:1.0
                        RECV S=101 I=255 C=3 T=12 P=1.0
                        7774 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-72
                        7818 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=201,c=0,t=30,pt=0,l=7,sg=0:BATTERY
                        RECV S=101 I=201 C=0 T=30 P=BATTERY
                        8086 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-73
                        8130 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=202,c=0,t=33,pt=0,l=6,sg=0:SIGNAL
                        RECV S=101 I=202 C=0 T=33 P=SIGNAL
                        8321 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-72
                        8365 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:2
                        8432 RFM69:SWR:SEND,TO=101,RETRY=0
                        8528 RFM69:SWR:ACK,FROM=101,SEQ=13,RSSI=-30
                        8574 TSF:MSG:SEND,0-0-101-101,s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1
                        8834 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-73
                        8878 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=255,c=3,t=0,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:94
                        RECV S=101 I=255 C=3 T=0 P=
                        9077 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-71
                        9122 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=201,c=1,t=38,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:3.26
                        RECV S=101 I=201 C=1 T=38 P=
                        9339 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-74
                        9383 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:4294967270
                        RECV S=101 I=202 C=1 T=37 P=
                        14607 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-70
                        14653 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:4294967270
                        RECV S=101 I=202 C=1 T=37 P=
                        19878 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-71
                        19924 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:4294967270
                        RECV S=101 I=202 C=1 T=37 P=
                        25148 RFM69:SAC:SEND ACK,TO=101,RSSI=-69
                        25193 TSF:MSG:READ,101-101-0,s=202,c=1,t=37,pt=5,l=4,sg=0:4294967270
                        RECV S=101 I=202 C=1 T=37 P=
                        SIGNAL V=-69
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        SIGNAL V=-69
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        SIGNAL V=-69
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        SIGNAL V=-69
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        SIGNAL V=-69
                        SEND D=0 I=202 C=0 T=37 S= I=0 F=0.00
                        

                        For node I use :

                        // RFM69 radio settings
                        #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                        //#define MY_RFM69_FREQUENCY RFM69_868MHZ
                        #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                        #define MY_RFM69_NEW_DRIVER
                        //#define MY_RFM69_ENABLE_ENCRYPTION
                        //#define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
                        #define MY_DEBUG_VERBOSE_RFM69
                        //#define MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN 2
                        //#define MY_RF69_IRQ_NUM MY_RF69_IRQ_PIN
                        //#define MY_RF69_SPI_CS 10
                        //#define MY_RFM69_ATC_MODE_DISABLED
                        

                        And for GW same as this except without MY_IS_RFM69HW.

                        Any sugestions?

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                          #16

                          @Nightbodom

                          It could also be

                          • bad antennas: what's your antenna ? in case of "wire" antenna, what kind of wire do you use? It needs to be one solid core, 86mm for 868mhz.
                          • power supply too. maybe not enough beefy ftdi on your node, when you increase distance and need more power to transmit.

                          you could eliminate power supply point, by replacing it with 2xaa battery, or any other batt as long as you keep your vcc 3.3. it would provide a more clean power supply

                          Maybe you could upload a pic of your gw and node assembly, in case we see something.

                          If everything is ok, then i'll recheck hw&sw here, but i can't tell you when for the moment.

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                            @nightbodom
                            If i understand it well, i think firstof9 issue is solved.
                            Regarding yours, please post more infos else we can't help much.. : hw used, sketch so we can check your defines&code, logs..

                            Note: it is not recommanded (explained in mysensors docs) to use rfm69 which is not 5V tolerant (3.6v max), with uno/nano which are 5v signal levels boards (SPI is running 5v). For this you would need level shifting board.
                            Maybe your modules are not dead because of these tests but better be careful.
                            To be sure, about your modules&sketch, you could try with arduino mini pro 3v/8mhz boards.

                            SANCHK FAIL means you need to check wiring or change module

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                            @scalz Negitive my issue persists using the new driver. I've had to revert back to the old driver to get around this SANCHK FAIL. Same wiring same radios using older driver work perfectly fine.

                            I read some where that the issue is resolved in beta version of 2.2.1.

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                              @scalz
                              I've updated my sketch to include that for the new driver. Thank you.
                              I had to use that mod for the older driver.

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                              @firstof9 said in New RFM69 driver error:

                              @scalz
                              I've updated my sketch to include that for the new driver. Thank you.
                              I had to use that mod for the older driver.

                              Why did you say this 4months ago? Does it mean you got it working with new driver at a moment?
                              Then 3months later, you said you got hw sanity check error. What has changed?
                              Maybe, have you updated lib and get again your initial problem??

                              On other side, (if i get things right), nightbodom has no more sanity chech error but range issue now..

                              Inconsistent details with hard to follow debug :crystal_ball: , unfortunately no time actually. I'll take a look later.

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                                @firstof9 said in New RFM69 driver error:

                                @scalz
                                I've updated my sketch to include that for the new driver. Thank you.
                                I had to use that mod for the older driver.

                                Why did you say this 4months ago? Does it mean you got it working with new driver at a moment?
                                Then 3months later, you said you got hw sanity check error. What has changed?
                                Maybe, have you updated lib and get again your initial problem??

                                On other side, (if i get things right), nightbodom has no more sanity chech error but range issue now..

                                Inconsistent details with hard to follow debug :crystal_ball: , unfortunately no time actually. I'll take a look later.

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                                @scalz Sorry, your changes fixed my OP problem with the compile errors. I forgot to follow up noting the TSP INIT fails and switching back to the old driver :(

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