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How to read frequency and SWP output from watermark sensor

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  • H hard-shovel

    @pierrot10
    please change the line 152
    from

    float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput;
    

    to

      float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));
    
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    @hard-shovel
    Thank a lot for your code, I tested it.

    It's interresting but I finaly got the same values as I tested until now with untrustable function (wmsmx() )

    I compared the return value of

    //---------------------------------------------------------------
    long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
     // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
     // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
     //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
     //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
     // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
     // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
     // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
     // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
     // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
     Serial.print(F("DEBUG: ResistanceInput: ")); Serial.println(ResistanceInput);
     float newVal;
    
     // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
     // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
     float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));;
     Serial.print(F("DEBUG: ResistanceCompensated: ")); Serial.println(ResistanceInput);
     
       if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
       newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
     }
     if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
       newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
     }  
     //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
     for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
       if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
         newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
         break;
       }
     }
     return newVal;
    }
    

    with my function I did not trust

    void get_wmsmx(int powerPin, int pinRead, unsigned long timeout, int16_t &val)
     {
    
        /*
        * Second soluion more precise
        */
        int highInput, lowInput;             // Store high and low time of wave in microseconds
        float totalInput;                     // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
        float frequency;                      // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
        float swp;
        int wrm;
        //float Tsoil=24; //temp
        highInput = pulseIn(pinRead,HIGH);
        lowInput  = pulseIn(pinRead,LOW);
        totalInput = highInput + lowInput;
        
        frequency = 1000000 / totalInput;
        percent = map(frequency,48,13233,0,100);
       
        
        if (highInput >0 && lowInput>0)
        {
          Si.sprint(F("Frequency2 at "),2); Si.sprint(pinRead,2); Si.sprint(F(": "),2); Si.sprint(frequency,2); Si.sprint(F("Hz "),2);
          Si.sprint(F("("),2); Si.sprint(percent,2); Si.sprintln(F("%)"),2);
        }
        else
        {
          Si.sprint(F("frequency: "),2);
          Si.sprintln(F("Error"),2);
        }
        delay(500);
        
        sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, LOW);
    
    /*
    *  Calculate  SWP (kPa)
    */
        uint8_t Tsoil = mesMesures[c_temperature_soil][capteur_temperature_soil_id].valeur;
        wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550);
    
        Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprint(wrm,2); Si.sprintln(F(" Ohm"),2);
        Si.sprintln(F("Calculate SWP"),2);
        //kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
        swp = (3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
        Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprint(swp,2); Si.sprint(F("kPa"),2);
        Si.sprint(F(" for a soil temp of "),2); Si.sprintln(Tsoil,2);
        
        val = (int16_t)percent;
     }
    

    the return value with mine function

    SWP: 202.77kPa for a soil temp of 24C
    It's very close to yours

    I also was very interrested about the return value of yours second function:

    long kPaCalc2(float ResistanceInput, float CTemperatureInput){
      // Second Method of conversion
      // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
      // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 9
      // kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / {1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
      // ** this function accepts temperature in Celsius units **
      
      ResistanceInput = ResistanceInput/1000;     // ohms to Kohms
      float newVal = (3.213 * ResistanceInput + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * ResistanceInput - 0.01205 * CTemperatureInput);
      return newVal;
    }
    

    because it displays -332.00kpa, and this was the result I always got before adding

    wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550);
    

    in my fonction wmsmx();

    I always thout that -332 was a error as I was convinced that it could not exceed -200 and SWP is always negatif from 0 to -200.

    I am still wondering why we got a value of -332 instead of -200 (or around -200)

    So what is more relevent between kPaCalc and kPaCalc2?
    This study also use the same formula as you, but they spoke about 0 -239kPa

    According to the manufacturer’s sensor specifications, the rated range of measurement of the Watermark 200SS sensors is from 0 to −239 kPa, although the normal usable range is from 0 to −200 kPa, where a reading around 0 kPa would indicate that the soil is at or near saturation and a reading at or near −200 would indicate a very dry soil with little or no plant available water. There are several types of commercial loggers that can automatically read the Watermark 200SS sensors at specified time intervals and store the collected data, and a device to manually read these sensors is also available (Figure 1(b)).
    

    Do you think they provide the formula but they do not say all about how the get -239? (otherwise they will have -324Kpa (or somethink about this...)

    I conclude, the best way is to use your proposition kPaCalc() because you consider the manufacturer TABLE1 value (page6) but your value is positif.

    Do you have idea about positif vs negatif kPa value (200 or -200)?
    I also conclude that my result was not sur wrong, while I expected it as obsolete :).

    What do you tink about how I calculate kPa in my function wmsmx(), as I am using the map function to get the Rwm (watermark sensor)

    Should I better follow your example as your "hard coded" the table value?

    long RESISTORarray[76]
    long SWPkPAarray[18]
    long resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput)
    

    Now my main worries is about negatif SWP value vs positif SWP value.

    Many thank!!!!
    Cheers

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      pierrot10

      I have not tested your routine, but i did test my two functions.

      With what input resistance figures did you test with?
      The kPaCalc() using the lookup table has upper and higher limits so only shows the ranges 0 to 200 kPa the same as the data sheet smx.
      The kPaCalc2() only has the raw calculation so has no upper or lower limits,

      However if you compare the outputs for the normal range 550 ohms to 27950 ohms.

      Irrometer Corporation has published a table of electrical resistance values in relation to soil moisture in kPa. (table
      2 and figure 5 above are taken from "chart #3") The resistance ranges from 550 ohms in saturated soil, 0.0 kPa, to
      27950 ohms in bone dry soil, 199 kPa. That is at 75 degrees Fahrenheit, 24 degrees Celsius.
      

      within this range the outputs of the two functions are similar and both positive. You will need to invert both of them if you require a negative value.

       Hz	ohms	KpaCalc	kPaCalc2
      43	10mOhm	200	-332
      48	10mOhm	200	-332
      76	262144	200	-459
      79	240298	200	-476
      85	196608	200	-528
      103	131072	200	-752
      122	98304	200	-1300
      157	65536	200	2943
      194	49152	200	697
      264	32768	200	279
      280	30919	200	252
      300	28609	200	222
      310	27454	195	208
      335	24682	172	176
      476	16384	106	102
      612	12288	75	73
      874	8192	48	48
      1135	6144	36	36
      1623	4096	25	25
      2071	3072	20	20
      2862	2048	15	15
      3557	1536	12	12
      4697	1024	9	10
      5596	768	4	9
      5800	728	3	9
      6000	690	2	8
      6200	652	2	8
      6400	613	1	8
      6600	575	0	8
      6932	512	0	8
      7878	384	0	7
      9104	256	0	6
      9882	192	0	6
      10802	128	0	6
      11312	96	0	6
      11893	64	0	6
      12200	48	0	5
      12526	32	0	
      12708	24	0	
      12871	16	0	
      12962	12	0	
      

      However all of the above is theoretical, as you should need to test your actual sensors in soil the same as the final position and calibrate to the real Wet and dry soil readings.
      What are you going to use the data received from the sensor for?

      //---------------------------------------------------------------
      long kPaCalc(float ResistanceInput, float FTemperatureInput){
        // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
        // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
        //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
        //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
        // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
        // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
        // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
        // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
        // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
        float newVal;
      
        // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature.
        // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
        float ResistanceCompensated = ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*(FTemperatureInput-75));
        
          if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
          newVal = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
        } 
        if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[16]) {     // Maximum value
          newVal = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
        }  
        //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
        for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
          if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
            newVal = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
            break;
          }
        }
        return newVal;
      }```
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        @hard-shovel
        Hello,it's verry interresting what you shared.
        Today I left the SMX input open. No sensor no resistance. I discovered, I get the same value when the sensor is in a fully dried soil. And I did not have the sensor with me.

        Yes, I have a box that I fill up with soil of the crop where the sensors will be for the measurement.
        We only want to monitor the soil moiture from June to Septembre and the result will be display in a graph.

        Some week ago, I wrote a loop to simulate the watermark voltage. In your second table you show that KPA can be from -332 to -1300 and then immediately to a positif number. That difference make me souspicious. I am still souspicous when I look from 48Hz to 157Hz (the doc give a range of frequency from 48Hz to 13233Hz.)

        But at the final, as I understood, what is relevant is from 1220Hz to +/- 310hz (from 550Ohm to 27950). From 27950 and above, the soil is fully dry, whatever if the kPa goes to -1300 or -352. And from 550Ohm or below, the soil is fully wet.

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          @hard-shovel
          Hello,it's verry interresting what you shared.
          Today I left the SMX input open. No sensor no resistance. I discovered, I get the same value when the sensor is in a fully dried soil. And I did not have the sensor with me.

          Yes, I have a box that I fill up with soil of the crop where the sensors will be for the measurement.
          We only want to monitor the soil moiture from June to Septembre and the result will be display in a graph.

          Some week ago, I wrote a loop to simulate the watermark voltage. In your second table you show that KPA can be from -332 to -1300 and then immediately to a positif number. That difference make me souspicious. I am still souspicous when I look from 48Hz to 157Hz (the doc give a range of frequency from 48Hz to 13233Hz.)

          But at the final, as I understood, what is relevant is from 1220Hz to +/- 310hz (from 550Ohm to 27950). From 27950 and above, the soil is fully dry, whatever if the kPa goes to -1300 or -352. And from 550Ohm or below, the soil is fully wet.

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          @pierrot10
          Yes i think that is correct 550 Ohm to 27950 Ohms is the range for the watermark sensor.

          For the SMX module with input open no sensor should be 48Hz as you have already discovered, and if you short the input terminals out you should get 13233Hz so total range of the module is more than the sensor.

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          • H hard-shovel

            @pierrot10
            Yes i think that is correct 550 Ohm to 27950 Ohms is the range for the watermark sensor.

            For the SMX module with input open no sensor should be 48Hz as you have already discovered, and if you short the input terminals out you should get 13233Hz so total range of the module is more than the sensor.

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            @hard-shovel
            I think, now it's clearer for me.

            First, SMX module has a range from 48hz to 13233hz
            But the watermak sensor has a range from 550 to 27950 ohm

            As we use watermark to measure the soil mostire, wehave to consier the range of 550 to 27950 which match with 6700Hz (more or less) and 310Hz. What is below or above is not relevant for moisture measurement with Wathermark.

            Are you agree with me?

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              @hard-shovel
              I think, now it's clearer for me.

              First, SMX module has a range from 48hz to 13233hz
              But the watermak sensor has a range from 550 to 27950 ohm

              As we use watermark to measure the soil mostire, wehave to consier the range of 550 to 27950 which match with 6700Hz (more or less) and 310Hz. What is below or above is not relevant for moisture measurement with Wathermark.

              Are you agree with me?

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              @pierrot10

              Yes I do agree that is how i understand the operation from the data sheet.

              if your still concerned about the possibility of negative results you could add something like either of the following

              Frequency = constrain(Frequency, 48, 133233);
              
              or 
              
              Resistance = constrain(Resistance, 500, 27950);
              

              My main concern in the long term would be the sensor connections being corroded and the sensor resistance becoming open. So error checking for higher or lower than normal values for sensor fault conditions might be worthwhile.

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                Dear hard-shovel,

                I do not know if you are still around and if you can help me a bit.
                I actually put into the soil a watermark at 20cm. I add some water to see the watermark measurement and I used your proposition (code)

                I can not understand why I have a WRm of 518 and it retrun me a 200kPa It should be 0

                Getting WM1 (SMX):
                Frequency at 15: 6896Hz WRM: 518
                WRM: 518
                WRMc: 518
                SWP: 200
                

                Here si the code:
                Note: sw.something. The sw is beacuse I use Seesaw Seesaw borad from Adafruit to have more DIO

                // getting the swp.
                // wm1_power_pin is pin which ppower smx
                // wm1_power_pin is the pin read the value
                // val is the return value
                get_wmsmx(wm1_power_pin, wm1_read_pin, 1000000, val, true);
                mesMesures[c_wm1][capteur_wm1_id].valeur = val; // The final SWP is store here
                

                Dont pain attention at 'alternative'. It's alway true and I will clean the code.

                void get_wmsmx(int powerPin, int pinRead, unsigned long timeout, int16_t &val, bool alternative)
                 {
                    sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, HIGH);
                    delay(1000); // Need to have the sensor "in equilibre" with the soil.
                    
                    int highInput, lowInput;             // Store high and low time of wave in microseconds
                    float totalInput;                     // Temp store of total time of duration for one cycle of high and low pulse
                    float frequency;                      // calculated freqency   1/total time of one cycle.
                    int16_t swp;
                    int percent=0;
                    int32_t wrm;
                    //float Tsoil=24; //temp
                    highInput = pulseIn(pinRead,HIGH);
                    lowInput  = pulseIn(pinRead,LOW);
                    totalInput = highInput + lowInput;
                    
                    frequency = 1000000 / totalInput;
                   
                    if (highInput >0 && lowInput>0)
                    {
                      Si.sprint(F("Frequency at "),2); Si.sprint(pinRead,2); Si.sprint(F(": "),2); Si.sprint((int16_t)frequency,2); Si.sprint(F("Hz "),2);
                    }
                    else
                    {
                      Si.sprint(F("frequency: "),2);
                      Si.sprintln(F("Error"),2);
                    }
                    delay(500);
                    
                    sw.digitalWrite(powerPin, LOW);
                
                    int16_t Tsoil = mesMesures[c_temperature_soil][capteur_temperature_soil_id].valeur;
                     
                    if(alternative == false)
                    {
                // That is my old code. I will remove it
                      wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550); // Must control the frequency for 440 and 27950
                      
                      Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprint(wrm,2); Si.sprintln(F(" Ohm"),2);
                      Si.sprintln(F("Calculate SWP"),2);
                      //kPa = (3.213 * kohms + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * kohms - 0.01205 * Celsius)
                      swp = (int16_t)(3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                      Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprint(swp,2); Si.sprint(F("kPa"),2);
                      Si.sprint(F(" for a soil temp of "),2); Si.sprintln(Tsoil,2);
                    
                      //val = (int16_t)percent;
                      val = swp;
                    }
                    else
                    {
                        resistanceCalc(frequency, wrm);
                        Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2);
                        Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                        kPaCalc(wrm, Tsoil, swp);
                        val = swp;
                    }
                    Si.sprint(F("SWP: "),2); Si.sprintln(swp,2);
                 }
                
                //---------------------------------------------------------------
                void resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput, int32_t &wrm){
                  wrm=0;
                  // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                  // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                  // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                  // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                  // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                  // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                
                  //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                  //float newVal;
                  if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                    wrm = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                  }
                  if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                    wrm = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                  }  
                  for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                    if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2]))
                    {
                      wrm = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                      break;
                    }
                  }
                  Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                }
                
                void kPaCalc(int32_t ResistanceInput, int16_t FTemperatureInput, int16_t &swp){
                  // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                  // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                  //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                  //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                  // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                  // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                  // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                  // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                  // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                  //float newVal;
                
                
                  // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature and cpnvert celculs to Fahrenheit
                  // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                  swp=0;
                  float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*((FTemperatureInput * 1.8 + 32)-75));
                  Si.sprint(F("WRMc: "),2); Si.sprintln((int16_t)ResistanceCompensated,2);
                  
                    if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                    swp = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                  }
                  if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                    swp = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                  }  
                  //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                  for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                    if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                      swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                      break;
                    }
                  }
                  //return newVal;
                }
                
                long RESISTORarray[76] = {
                // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Hz to Resistance lookup table per SMX.pdf page 6. 
                48,  10000000,
                76,  262144,
                85,  196608,
                103, 131072,
                122, 98304,
                157, 65536,
                194, 49152,
                264, 32768,
                335, 24567,
                476, 16384,
                612, 12288,
                874, 8192,
                1135,  6144,
                1623,  4096,
                2071,  3072,
                2862,  2048,
                3557,  1536,
                4697,  1024,
                5596,  768,
                6932,  512,
                7878,  384,
                9104,  256,
                9882,  192,
                10802, 128,
                11312, 96,
                11893, 64,
                12200, 48,
                12526, 32,
                12708, 24,
                12871, 16,
                12962, 12,
                13047, 8,
                13092, 6,
                13139, 4,
                13162, 3,
                13186, 2,
                13209, 1,
                13233, 0,
                };
                
                long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                 550,  0,
                1000,  9,
                1100,  10,
                2000,  15,
                6000,  35,
                9200,  55,
                12200, 75,
                15575, 100,
                28075, 200,
                };
                

                Many thank!!

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                  I wonder if the problem does not come from here:

                  if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[74]) {}
                  

                  Should it be not 16?

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                    yes you are correct, it should be 16.

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                      #28

                      Hello Hard-shovel !
                      Are you still around?
                      I ma still doubting about my SWP value returning by my sensor and by the code to calculate it.

                      Until last week, I was used to use the great code you provide to me

                      resistanceCalc(frequency, wrm);
                              Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2);
                              Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                              kPaCalc(wrm, Tsoil, swp);
                              val = swp;
                      

                      But I was always suspicous about the SWP value. I also bout a WATER digital reader and the values never matched.
                      All the graph/line of Station3 is calculate with a temperature of 24Celcul. As sensor is in a room where the temeparture is between 24C and 28C, a small tolerence must be "accepted" :)

                      Last week I used this to get the WRM (Watermark resistance)

                      wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550)
                      

                      but never use it. The result is wrong. I compared with datsheet of the Isometer and the result never matches.

                      However, your table works fine

                      //---------------------------------------------------------------
                      void resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput, int32_t &wrm){
                        wrm=0;
                        // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                        // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                        // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                        // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                        // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                        // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                      
                        //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                        //float newVal;
                        if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                          wrm = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                        }
                        if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                          wrm = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                        }  
                        for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                          if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2]))
                          {
                            wrm = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                            break;
                          }
                        }
                        Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                      }
                      

                      In order to be fixed this question, I used my LoRa node to send the wrm, swp and a second swp to my server and observe the diffrence.

                      Look at this web page (go to Station 3)
                      Station 3 (Teste)

                      Note:
                      Station 1 and 2 are two station on fields.
                      Station 3 is a node I have at home. I put a little of water on matrix of the watermark until the SWP go to 8kpa and left it dried 1,5 day until the the SWP is 200kps. one hour ago, I put the watermark sensor into water for one hour, and I am going to leave it drying under the sun and compare the graph. Today afternoon (15.9.2018), I am going to update the code of station 1 and 2 to get the SWP value with the equation of Shock

                      The red line is the WRM in Ohm and not ml/h (I have not change the unit).
                      The yellow line is the SWP return with the equation of Shock

                      swp = (int16_t)(3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                      

                      and the violet line is the SWP return by

                      void kPaCalc(int32_t ResistanceInput, int16_t FTemperatureInput, int16_t &swp){
                        // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                        // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                        //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                        //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                        // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                        // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                        // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                        // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                        // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                        //float newVal;
                      
                      
                        // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature and cpnvert celculs to Fahrenheit
                        // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                        swp=0;
                        float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*((FTemperatureInput * 1.8 + 32)-75));
                        Si.sprint(F("WRMc: "),2); Si.sprintln((int16_t)ResistanceCompensated,2);
                        
                          if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                          swp = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                        }
                        if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[16]) {     // Maximum value
                          swp = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                        }  
                        //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                        for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                          if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                            swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                            break;
                          }
                        }
                        //return newVal;
                      }
                      

                      It's interresting to see that the kPaCalc() progress as a step and stop at 100kpa and jump at 200kpa only when the wrm is 27950.

                      I used

                      constrain (wrm,550,27950)
                      

                      so the wrm will not be display higher than 27950 even if it can go over 27950 as say the doc.

                      The equation of Shock look perfect and I controlled it with Watermark data reader. The result is similar with a tolerance of 5-10kpa.
                      From graph (See Station 3), I also compare the WRM and the SWP from the doc (see page 7) and SWP value matches.

                      I wonder why, in the array

                      long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                      // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                      // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                       550,  0,
                      1000,  9,
                      1100,  10,
                      2000,  15,
                      6000,  35,
                      9200,  55,
                      12200, 75,
                      15575, 100,
                      28075, 200,
                      

                      you do not consider a SWP between 100kpa and 200kpa.
                      I thing it's very interresting to have value from 100kpa and 200kpa, as 100kpa is the moment when soil need to be irrigate and more we come close to 200kpa, more is dangerous.

                      In any case, your function kPaCalc2() from the code you provided to me, 3 mounth ago seems to be best.

                      Thank for all
                      Cheers

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                        Hello Hard-shovel !
                        Are you still around?
                        I ma still doubting about my SWP value returning by my sensor and by the code to calculate it.

                        Until last week, I was used to use the great code you provide to me

                        resistanceCalc(frequency, wrm);
                                Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2);
                                Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                                kPaCalc(wrm, Tsoil, swp);
                                val = swp;
                        

                        But I was always suspicous about the SWP value. I also bout a WATER digital reader and the values never matched.
                        All the graph/line of Station3 is calculate with a temperature of 24Celcul. As sensor is in a room where the temeparture is between 24C and 28C, a small tolerence must be "accepted" :)

                        Last week I used this to get the WRM (Watermark resistance)

                        wrm = map(frequency,48,13233,27950,550)
                        

                        but never use it. The result is wrong. I compared with datsheet of the Isometer and the result never matches.

                        However, your table works fine

                        //---------------------------------------------------------------
                        void resistanceCalc(float frequencyInput, int32_t &wrm){
                          wrm=0;
                          // Convert from freqency to Resistance measurement
                          // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 6
                          // 48 Hz    = 10,000,000 Ohms
                          // 76 Hz    =    262,144 Ohms
                          // 13233 Hz =          0 ohms 
                          // using lookup table held in the array  RESISTORarray   
                        
                          //frequencyInput = constrain(frequencyInput,50, 13233);
                          //float newVal;
                          if (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                            wrm = RESISTORarray[0+1];
                          }
                          if (frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[74]) {     // Maximum value
                            wrm = RESISTORarray[74+1];
                          }  
                          for (int i=0; i<74; i=i+2) {
                            if ((frequencyInput >= RESISTORarray[i]) && (frequencyInput <= RESISTORarray[i+2]))
                            {
                              wrm = RESISTORarray[i+1] - ((RESISTORarray[i+1]-RESISTORarray[i+3]) * ((frequencyInput-RESISTORarray[i]) / (RESISTORarray[i+2]-RESISTORarray[i])));
                              break;
                            }
                          }
                          Si.sprint(F("WRM: "),2); Si.sprintln(wrm,2);
                        }
                        

                        In order to be fixed this question, I used my LoRa node to send the wrm, swp and a second swp to my server and observe the diffrence.

                        Look at this web page (go to Station 3)
                        Station 3 (Teste)

                        Note:
                        Station 1 and 2 are two station on fields.
                        Station 3 is a node I have at home. I put a little of water on matrix of the watermark until the SWP go to 8kpa and left it dried 1,5 day until the the SWP is 200kps. one hour ago, I put the watermark sensor into water for one hour, and I am going to leave it drying under the sun and compare the graph. Today afternoon (15.9.2018), I am going to update the code of station 1 and 2 to get the SWP value with the equation of Shock

                        The red line is the WRM in Ohm and not ml/h (I have not change the unit).
                        The yellow line is the SWP return with the equation of Shock

                        swp = (int16_t)(3.213 * (wrm/1000) + 4.093) / (1 - 0.009733 * (wrm/1000) - 0.01205 * Tsoil);
                        

                        and the violet line is the SWP return by

                        void kPaCalc(int32_t ResistanceInput, int16_t FTemperatureInput, int16_t &swp){
                          // Convert from Resistance to SWP kPa measurement
                          // From SMX.pdf datasheet, page 7
                          //   550 Ohms =  0 SWP kPa
                          //  6000 Ohms = 35 SWP kPa
                          // 28075 Ohms =200 SWP kPa
                          // using lookup table held in the array  SWPkPAarray   
                          // table valid for temperature of 75F, 24C
                          // for increase of 1°F increase resistance by 1%.
                          // ** this function accepts temperature in Fahrenheit units **
                          //float newVal;
                        
                        
                          // Adjust compensate resistance for temperature and cpnvert celculs to Fahrenheit
                          // per page 8 of SMX.pdf 
                          swp=0;
                          float ResistanceCompensated =  ResistanceInput *(1 + 0.001*((FTemperatureInput * 1.8 + 32)-75));
                          Si.sprint(F("WRMc: "),2); Si.sprintln((int16_t)ResistanceCompensated,2);
                          
                            if (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[0]) {     // Minimum value
                            swp = SWPkPAarray[0+1];
                          }
                          if (ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[16]) {     // Maximum value
                            swp = SWPkPAarray[16+1];
                          }  
                          //for (int i=0; i<SWPkPAarray.length-2; i=i+2) {
                          for (int i=0; i<16; i=i+2) {
                            if ((ResistanceCompensated >= SWPkPAarray[i]) && (ResistanceCompensated <= SWPkPAarray[i+2])) {
                              swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                              break;
                            }
                          }
                          //return newVal;
                        }
                        

                        It's interresting to see that the kPaCalc() progress as a step and stop at 100kpa and jump at 200kpa only when the wrm is 27950.

                        I used

                        constrain (wrm,550,27950)
                        

                        so the wrm will not be display higher than 27950 even if it can go over 27950 as say the doc.

                        The equation of Shock look perfect and I controlled it with Watermark data reader. The result is similar with a tolerance of 5-10kpa.
                        From graph (See Station 3), I also compare the WRM and the SWP from the doc (see page 7) and SWP value matches.

                        I wonder why, in the array

                        long SWPkPAarray[18]{
                        // Watermark Sensor SMX interface Resistance to SWP kPa lookup table per SMX.pdf page 7. 
                        // this table is valid at temperature of 75F, 24C  
                         550,  0,
                        1000,  9,
                        1100,  10,
                        2000,  15,
                        6000,  35,
                        9200,  55,
                        12200, 75,
                        15575, 100,
                        28075, 200,
                        

                        you do not consider a SWP between 100kpa and 200kpa.
                        I thing it's very interresting to have value from 100kpa and 200kpa, as 100kpa is the moment when soil need to be irrigate and more we come close to 200kpa, more is dangerous.

                        In any case, your function kPaCalc2() from the code you provided to me, 3 mounth ago seems to be best.

                        Thank for all
                        Cheers

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                        @pierrot10 the red violet line on the chart is showing an error in the processing as it should not jump in stages.

                        The error has appeared as you changed the original code from using float for ResistanceInput to Integer, however there was also a error in the orginal code that did not show up when using the float inputs.

                        You only need to change this line and verify results

                            //  swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                        

                        to use ResistanceCompensated which is in float format.

                              swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceCompensated -SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                        

                        Please test with values between 100 and 200 swp,
                        my results were
                        input Swp output
                        500Hz = 100swp
                        480hz = 105swp
                        435hz = 125swp
                        382Hz = 150swp
                        331Hz = 175swp
                        304Hz = 200swp

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                          @pierrot10 the red violet line on the chart is showing an error in the processing as it should not jump in stages.

                          The error has appeared as you changed the original code from using float for ResistanceInput to Integer, however there was also a error in the orginal code that did not show up when using the float inputs.

                          You only need to change this line and verify results

                              //  swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceInput-SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                          

                          to use ResistanceCompensated which is in float format.

                                swp = SWPkPAarray[i+1] - ((SWPkPAarray[i+1]-SWPkPAarray[i+3]) * ((ResistanceCompensated -SWPkPAarray[i]) / (SWPkPAarray[i+2]-SWPkPAarray[i])));
                          

                          Please test with values between 100 and 200 swp,
                          my results were
                          input Swp output
                          500Hz = 100swp
                          480hz = 105swp
                          435hz = 125swp
                          382Hz = 150swp
                          331Hz = 175swp
                          304Hz = 200swp

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                          @hard-shovel said in How to read frequency and SWP output from watermark sensor:

                          the red line on the chart is showing an error in the processing as it should not jump in stages.

                          Hello, what do means by jump in stage with the red line?
                          Twice, the node could not send data but this due to a small error from me. Today, all data have been sent. Today, I left the node and the sensor outsite under the sun and I juts brang it back inside and the RWM went a little bit down. I am going to upload the code with your change, That great because right now the RWM is 88

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                            @hard-shovel said in How to read frequency and SWP output from watermark sensor:

                            the red line on the chart is showing an error in the processing as it should not jump in stages.

                            Hello, what do means by jump in stage with the red line?
                            Twice, the node could not send data but this due to a small error from me. Today, all data have been sent. Today, I left the node and the sensor outsite under the sun and I juts brang it back inside and the RWM went a little bit down. I am going to upload the code with your change, That great because right now the RWM is 88

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                            @pierrot10 I meant the violet line should be a smooth similar to the yellow line.

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                              @pierrot10 I meant the violet line should be a smooth similar to the yellow line.

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                              @hard-shovel
                              Hello, Yes. Thank a lot to follow my topic :)
                              This morning I soaked it again the sensor into water for about 1 hour and I let it dry under the sun. It looks now really better ( See Station 3 ). I am happy with the result specially for Station 1 and 2 since yesterday 12h (UTC). Thanks a lot.

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                                @pierrot10 I meant the violet line should be a smooth similar to the yellow line.

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                                @hard-shovel
                                Dear Hard-shovel.
                                In any case, thank a lot for your great help. Your participation helped me a lot and I would like to thank you again.
                                Now I am very happy with the result. I still keep an eye on it.

                                First I planted them in 3 different level: 15cm, 30cm and 45cm. Then I replanted them to try to observe the bulb of water: I planted them at (distance/deepth) 15cm/30cm, 15cm/60cm and 30cm/30cm from the point where drop the water. (I also make sure that all sensor have a distance of 30cm from each other to avoid interfrences). But as the ground is tilted, the drop do not fall where I expected.
                                Badly planted
                                Next step, I am going to change the position of my 3 watermark, making sure that the drop falls on the line of the sensor, as the following:
                                correct

                                When I planted them into the soil and see the difference of the result.

                                Do you have any suggestion to plant the 3 sensor?

                                In any case, tanks a lot. You helped me a lot.
                                Enjoy the end of sommer!

                                Cheers

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                                  @hard-shovel
                                  Dear Hard-shovel.
                                  In any case, thank a lot for your great help. Your participation helped me a lot and I would like to thank you again.
                                  Now I am very happy with the result. I still keep an eye on it.

                                  First I planted them in 3 different level: 15cm, 30cm and 45cm. Then I replanted them to try to observe the bulb of water: I planted them at (distance/deepth) 15cm/30cm, 15cm/60cm and 30cm/30cm from the point where drop the water. (I also make sure that all sensor have a distance of 30cm from each other to avoid interfrences). But as the ground is tilted, the drop do not fall where I expected.
                                  Badly planted
                                  Next step, I am going to change the position of my 3 watermark, making sure that the drop falls on the line of the sensor, as the following:
                                  correct

                                  When I planted them into the soil and see the difference of the result.

                                  Do you have any suggestion to plant the 3 sensor?

                                  In any case, tanks a lot. You helped me a lot.
                                  Enjoy the end of sommer!

                                  Cheers

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                                  @pierrot10
                                  Hi pierrot10 thank you for letting me know how it is working. I am glad to be of some help.
                                  I have no experience of using the water sensors, I only looked at the data you posted and made a mock up of the converter module for testing.
                                  My gardening is limited to two small potted plants that live on a window sill and have a capacitance sensor in each pot.
                                  Best Regards

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                                    @hard-shovel
                                    It's a huge, great what you wrote!!!
                                    I will test it tomorrow!!! and compare the two different to calculate kpa ( kPaCalc2() and kPaCalc() )
                                    :+1:

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                                    @pierrot10 Hi. Im very interested with your project because currently im doing a similar project. So, if u dont mind can i see how u setup the circuit because i want to compare with mine. Thank u. Hope u will reply my question^^

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                                      @pierrot10 Hi. Im very interested with your project because currently im doing a similar project. So, if u dont mind can i see how u setup the circuit because i want to compare with mine. Thank u. Hope u will reply my question^^

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                                      @suhaila96 Hello I have not seen your question since I reviewed this topics, today.
                                      What do you mean about "setup your circuit"? How did you connected you watermark sensor and to what?

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