Okay thanks Well I built a Ethernet board using 1.4.1 library and a W5100 Ethernet board and it worked right off so now I am as curious as heck to make the ESP 8266 work but I still think it has something to do with the newest library. I think I will start out with the Arduino IDE 1.6.4 or something like that and see if that makes a difference. Not very many on this site can help with the issue because they do not have Vera Controllers, so I have to figure this out and just keep trying