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Specific register setting fo NRF24 with PA-LNA

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  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

    @cabat no. The define specifies which bit (bit number 0) to change when changing the register. The value of the register is not set by the define.

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    @mfalkvidd you right, this define don't changing the register..
    I find deeper and what can i see in datasheet:

    06374145-7fe1-4398-9c1c-9519e94b9349-изображение.png

    and i see in RF24.h:

    #define RF24_RF_SETUP (uint8_t)(( ((MY_RF24_DATARATE & 0b10 ) << 4) | ((MY_RF24_DATARATE & 0b01 ) << 3) | (MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL << 1) ) + 1) 		//!< RF24_RF_SETUP, +1 for Si24R1 and LNA
    

    May be need change in this define?

    UPDATE: As i see, in RF4.h used HCURR = 1:

    #define RF24_RF_SETUP ..  // !< RF24_RF_SETUP, +1 for Si24R1 and LNA
    
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      @mfalkvidd you right, this define don't changing the register..
      I find deeper and what can i see in datasheet:

      06374145-7fe1-4398-9c1c-9519e94b9349-изображение.png

      and i see in RF24.h:

      #define RF24_RF_SETUP (uint8_t)(( ((MY_RF24_DATARATE & 0b10 ) << 4) | ((MY_RF24_DATARATE & 0b01 ) << 3) | (MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL << 1) ) + 1) 		//!< RF24_RF_SETUP, +1 for Si24R1 and LNA
      

      May be need change in this define?

      UPDATE: As i see, in RF4.h used HCURR = 1:

      #define RF24_RF_SETUP ..  // !< RF24_RF_SETUP, +1 for Si24R1 and LNA
      
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      @cabat what are you trying to achieve? Setting that LNA_HCURR to 1? It appears indeed to be 1 by default in MySensors

      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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        Which PA/LNA module are you referrig to? There are a few..... Some better than others.

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        • YveauxY Yveaux

          @cabat what are you trying to achieve? Setting that LNA_HCURR to 1? It appears indeed to be 1 by default in MySensors

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          @Yveaux I want to try solve the problem with NRF24 module with PA-LNA..

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          • skywatchS skywatch

            Which PA/LNA module are you referrig to? There are a few..... Some better than others.

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            @skywatch I am using this module
            710a31f3-a25c-44d1-b320-28b1056d3f4b-изображение.png

            and like this
            4875dbb7-7153-4a2e-ab7b-467a26c0f252-изображение.png

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              @skywatch I am using this module
              710a31f3-a25c-44d1-b320-28b1056d3f4b-изображение.png

              and like this
              4875dbb7-7153-4a2e-ab7b-467a26c0f252-изображение.png

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              @cabat I have both of those and the one in the second photo is a pain. I do not use that one any more.
              The Ebyte one is the better of the two. ATM I only use it for the gateway set to low Tx power and no problems at all with it. I did invest in a good quality branded power supply from major UK distriburor and added a capacitor to the board.

              If you are havving problems with this module I suggest you post a photo of how it is all wired up.

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              • skywatchS skywatch

                @cabat I have both of those and the one in the second photo is a pain. I do not use that one any more.
                The Ebyte one is the better of the two. ATM I only use it for the gateway set to low Tx power and no problems at all with it. I did invest in a good quality branded power supply from major UK distriburor and added a capacitor to the board.

                If you are havving problems with this module I suggest you post a photo of how it is all wired up.

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                @skywatch The peoblem is in not working OTA with NRF24-PA-LNA, if the RF24_PA_LEVEL parameter has not the RF24_PA_LOW value..
                It's refers to Ebyte module too..
                The power supply is the brand Samsung power adapter for the tablet and the LM1117 3.3V with 100uF capacitor.

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                  @skywatch The peoblem is in not working OTA with NRF24-PA-LNA, if the RF24_PA_LEVEL parameter has not the RF24_PA_LOW value..
                  It's refers to Ebyte module too..
                  The power supply is the brand Samsung power adapter for the tablet and the LM1117 3.3V with 100uF capacitor.

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                  @cabat So FOTA works with both NRF modules if set to PA_LOW but not at higher Tx level?

                  Both gateway and node use the same modules? Same samsung model power supply for the node and gateway?

                  What is the distance between modules when testing this?

                  Also, if it works on low power why not leave it like that?

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                  • skywatchS skywatch

                    @cabat So FOTA works with both NRF modules if set to PA_LOW but not at higher Tx level?

                    Both gateway and node use the same modules? Same samsung model power supply for the node and gateway?

                    What is the distance between modules when testing this?

                    Also, if it works on low power why not leave it like that?

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                    @skywatch Yes, FOTA works with both modules, it is one gateway, i just change one module (black) to another (Ebyte), distance between gatway and node aprox 2-3m.
                    I want to find a solution to increase distance, because of some of my node work unstable..

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                      @skywatch Yes, FOTA works with both modules, it is one gateway, i just change one module (black) to another (Ebyte), distance between gatway and node aprox 2-3m.
                      I want to find a solution to increase distance, because of some of my node work unstable..

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                      @cabat If you increase power with only 2-3M it will saturate the LNA, move them further apart and try again.

                      Are you saying that all modules are cdebyte or only one of them?

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                      • skywatchS skywatch

                        @cabat If you increase power with only 2-3M it will saturate the LNA, move them further apart and try again.

                        Are you saying that all modules are cdebyte or only one of them?

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                        @skywatch May be you right - the distance between node and gateway so small..
                        But how can i solve the problem of unstable link with node on distance about 5m and more with wall between node and gateway?

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