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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    #102

    @scalz

    I didn't know of the neutrino (or arduino zero) before @blacey mentioned it to me, and he finally got me convinced that I should swap the atmega1284. (I know that @axillent tried to convince me to use another chip, than the atmega, before.. But when you find this, and it can reduce board complexity..)

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    • scalzS Offline
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      @tbowmo: it is likely same things for me. lots of 8/16bits chip collection (microchip). but never moved to 32bit even if i have a 32bit usb bit wacker (not time to test it). I was thinking that you can do lot of things with 8bit chips. So yesterday, I have read a little the datasheet atsamd21. Wow, 1077 pages! But there is lots lots of features! I think I will try to order one sample for my collection! Plus, these chips seems to be not expensive but there is some learning curve on it. I think Microchip have missed a big move with arduino platform!

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        #104

        A couple of late night shots, of the progress..

        Getting ready for the first prototype spin of the board

        MysensorsGW-no-radios.png

        MysensorsGW-bottom.png

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        • RJ_MakeR Offline
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          #105

          That right there is a work of art!

          RJ_Make

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          • NeverDieN Offline
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            #106

            You may be interested in this Arduino shield:
            gw.JPG
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/WireLess-Gate-Shield-DIY-Maker-Seeed-BOOOLE-/171713943896?hash=item27faf2d958

            It has both NRF24L01+ and RFM69HW radios.

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              #107

              @tbowmo this gw is looking good, hope the prototypes get to you soon!

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              • tbowmoT Offline
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                wrote on last edited by tbowmo
                #108

                The first pcb's have arrived today.

                They came a bit faster from dirtypcbs.com, than I had expected. So haven't even sourced the components yet.

                So need to look into that the next couple of days.

                front.jpg

                back.jpg

                with W5100 / NRF module "mounted" :
                mockup.jpg

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                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                  The first pcb's have arrived today.

                  They came a bit faster from dirtypcbs.com, than I had expected. So haven't even sourced the components yet.

                  So need to look into that the next couple of days.

                  front.jpg

                  back.jpg

                  with W5100 / NRF module "mounted" :
                  mockup.jpg

                  RJ_MakeR Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #109

                  @tbowmo No mounting holes?

                  RJ_Make

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                  • tbowmoT Offline
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                    @ServiceXp

                    As we need to bring things to life on a new MCU core (Cortex M0), I decided to just make a "simple" dev board, without holes. They will probably be added on the next iteration of the board. (Besides that, 3 of the corners are a bit crammed with components, so no place for the holes anyway.)

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                    • scalzS Offline
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                      #111

                      @tbowmo: very beautiful board. I can't wait to see how it will work. And your feedback about dirtypcb. I often use seeed for their price. But dirty seems good too regarding their shipping rates. I like osh sometimes for their beautiful boards.

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                      • tbowmoT Offline
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                        #112

                        @scalz

                        Haven't tried any of the other "cheap" board houses. But I'm glad for the quality that dirtypcbs are delivering, and the price can't be argued about..

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                          #113

                          thx good to know.

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                          • tbowmoT Offline
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                            #114

                            things are beginning to take form..

                            First arduino sketch are running on the GW

                            Proof is here :)

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                              #115

                              great :clap:

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                                #116

                                Just learned a lesson the hard way, the last couple of days.. Discovered that I hadn't read the datasheet for the atsamd21 good enough, so I had connected all the PINS for the SPI / UARTs completely wrong. Which means 10-12 connections that was wrong (the board uses 3 SPI ports and 2 UARTs, one SPI doubles as UART, depending on the network interface connected)

                                So new boards are in the pipeline from dirtypcbs.com

                                This is btw improved on a couple of other points, compared to the previous board. Biggest is, that it now has 4 x 3mm mounting holes, (happy now @ServiceXp ? :)). It also got a couple of extra solder jumpers on the backside, that could be used for software configurations, or test points.

                                MysensorsGW.jpg

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                                  @tbowmo: what a bad luck! but it is so easy to miss something when you look at the datasheet size :wink:
                                  I hope you will get it working like you want, I am sure :smiley:
                                  I like your enlarged pads for 0402. Is it easier to solder like this? Do you handsolder it? Do you think using 0603/0805 with no enlarged pads would take same place???I am asking this for my future designs, in case. But 0402 is so small...

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                                    @scalz

                                    I'm using 0603 components this time, as I'm not under that big a space constraint, as on the sensebender micro.

                                    The biggest issue is the finepitched SAMD21, have to be extra careful not to make solder bridges between the pins..

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                                      #119

                                      @tbowmo: 0603, cool. I have some samd21 sample but have not tried to solder them. it looks tiny but I think I will be able but not without some :cold_sweat:
                                      thank you for your precision :smile:

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                                        @scalz

                                        atsamd21 comes in 3 variants, with 32, 48 og 64 pins (If I remember right). I'm using the 64 pin variant

                                        If things go well with this one, then I might make a sensebender micro 2, with an 32 pin atsamd20 (almost the same as d21, but without USB host/slave capabilities)

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                                          #121

                                          @tbowmo: oh, i have the 48p variant. so I will try to use it in another project in the future. and will order other sample.
                                          sensebender micro2 atsam, wow, crazy thing! could be fun to see this :smile:

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