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  • jocke4uJ Offline
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    #16

    Hi again,
    First I would like to thank you all for the support/ideas etc and I really want to get sensors stable and reliable. Sure this EnergyMeterPulseSensor is not the most critical one and sure the sketch can be improved not to loose KWH readings/accumulations (Watts is a snapshot) when send fails. But with more critical sensors where something else is triggered.
    Anyway, since I have problem with the EnergyMeterPulseSensor sending data (not counting pulses) I need to get that working and set the "foundation" for future sensors. Sure I have some other test sensors...

    Yesterday I took the following actions.
    EnergyMeterPulseSensor

    • Reverted back to NRF24L01+ due to lower power consumtion
    • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
    • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(incomingMessage); (not using RF24_PA_LOW)

    Gateway

    • Still using NRF24L01+PA+LNA
    • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
    • Added AMS1117 5V-3.3V Step Down Module connected to a separate USB charger feeding the radio
    • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(); not using RF24_PA_LOW

    But unfortunately no success.

    So I wonder what you have as hardware reference architecture;

    • Do you have a verified and reliable solution?
    • What components do you use?
    • What working distance do you have between gateway-sensors ?

    Regards
    Joacim

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    • jocke4uJ jocke4u

      Hi again,
      First I would like to thank you all for the support/ideas etc and I really want to get sensors stable and reliable. Sure this EnergyMeterPulseSensor is not the most critical one and sure the sketch can be improved not to loose KWH readings/accumulations (Watts is a snapshot) when send fails. But with more critical sensors where something else is triggered.
      Anyway, since I have problem with the EnergyMeterPulseSensor sending data (not counting pulses) I need to get that working and set the "foundation" for future sensors. Sure I have some other test sensors...

      Yesterday I took the following actions.
      EnergyMeterPulseSensor

      • Reverted back to NRF24L01+ due to lower power consumtion
      • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
      • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(incomingMessage); (not using RF24_PA_LOW)

      Gateway

      • Still using NRF24L01+PA+LNA
      • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
      • Added AMS1117 5V-3.3V Step Down Module connected to a separate USB charger feeding the radio
      • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(); not using RF24_PA_LOW

      But unfortunately no success.

      So I wonder what you have as hardware reference architecture;

      • Do you have a verified and reliable solution?
      • What components do you use?
      • What working distance do you have between gateway-sensors ?

      Regards
      Joacim

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      RJ_Make
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      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      @jocke4u
      Have you tried MySensors 1.3b yet?

      RJ_Make

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      • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

        @jocke4u
        Have you tried MySensors 1.3b yet?

        jocke4uJ Offline
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        jocke4u
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        @ServiceXp
        I have had 1.3b before but without capacitor etc.
        Maybe time to go back to 1.3b3, to see if that works better.

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        • jocke4uJ jocke4u

          @ServiceXp
          I have had 1.3b before but without capacitor etc.
          Maybe time to go back to 1.3b3, to see if that works better.

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          RJ_Make
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          wrote on last edited by
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          @jocke4u
          At least In my environment, I had zero communication problems with v1.3. Can't say that about 1.4.

          RJ_Make

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          • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

            @jocke4u
            At least In my environment, I had zero communication problems with v1.3. Can't say that about 1.4.

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            @ServiceXp said:

            Can't say that about 1.4.

            Do you mean you're having problems with 1.4 then or did you just not have any experience with it yet?

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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            • jocke4uJ Offline
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              jocke4u
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              DAMN :( :(
              I think dataMine played a prank on me and the statistic is probably not correct (not logging everything). Will hook in my MQTT monitor to extract statistics in a way I control it.
              Currently I am running 1.3b3 and will run a test sensor for a while to see how it's works and then eventually go for 1.4 again.
              Thanks for your support and I have learnt more about power and capacitors :)

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @ServiceXp said:

                Can't say that about 1.4.

                Do you mean you're having problems with 1.4 then or did you just not have any experience with it yet?

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                RJ_Make
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                @Yveaux
                I think both.. The radio problems I had drove me crazy, and then there's still the temps not converting to F using the existing 1.4b library. Which is not a big problem thanks to @hek help.

                I literately had zero issues with the 1.3b library.

                RJ_Make

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                • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                  @Yveaux
                  I think both.. The radio problems I had drove me crazy, and then there's still the temps not converting to F using the existing 1.4b library. Which is not a big problem thanks to @hek help.

                  I literately had zero issues with the 1.3b library.

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                  @ServiceXp I'm not aware of any major issues with 1.4 at the moment and @hek is about to tag it. If you are really having (radio) issues related to 1.4 we should fix them asap.

                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                  • YveauxY Yveaux

                    @ServiceXp I'm not aware of any major issues with 1.4 at the moment and @hek is about to tag it. If you are really having (radio) issues related to 1.4 we should fix them asap.

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                    #24

                    @Yveaux

                    At this point I think I found the solution, but have not built up another test bed to make sure the solution worked. The temp conversion problem is persistent,

                    http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/309/1-4b-radio-transmission-problem-not-present-in-1-3b

                    RJ_Make

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                    • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                      @Yveaux

                      At this point I think I found the solution, but have not built up another test bed to make sure the solution worked. The temp conversion problem is persistent,

                      http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/309/1-4b-radio-transmission-problem-not-present-in-1-3b

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                      #25

                      @ServiceXp you said in this post:

                      That was it!!!!! I tried 22uF, was still doggie, so I thought why not move up to 47uF wink and what do you know, that seems to be the winning value. I have some more testing, but looking pretty good so far.

                      This sounds to me that the issue is solved...
                      I can imagine that 1.4 requires a bigger cap while 1.3 doesn't. 1.4 uses auto acknowledge which can send burst packets. This could put a bigger load on your power supply.

                      http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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