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  • jocke4uJ Offline
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    jocke4u
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    #15

    Thank you for all your answers.
    I think I have a couple of "AMS1117 5V-3.3V Step Down Module" (or similar) that I can connect to a USB charger. Need to verify though.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/261172232237 says "output: 3.3 V, 800 mA"

    Some hacks to do :)

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      #16

      Hi again,
      First I would like to thank you all for the support/ideas etc and I really want to get sensors stable and reliable. Sure this EnergyMeterPulseSensor is not the most critical one and sure the sketch can be improved not to loose KWH readings/accumulations (Watts is a snapshot) when send fails. But with more critical sensors where something else is triggered.
      Anyway, since I have problem with the EnergyMeterPulseSensor sending data (not counting pulses) I need to get that working and set the "foundation" for future sensors. Sure I have some other test sensors...

      Yesterday I took the following actions.
      EnergyMeterPulseSensor

      • Reverted back to NRF24L01+ due to lower power consumtion
      • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
      • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(incomingMessage); (not using RF24_PA_LOW)

      Gateway

      • Still using NRF24L01+PA+LNA
      • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
      • Added AMS1117 5V-3.3V Step Down Module connected to a separate USB charger feeding the radio
      • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(); not using RF24_PA_LOW

      But unfortunately no success.

      So I wonder what you have as hardware reference architecture;

      • Do you have a verified and reliable solution?
      • What components do you use?
      • What working distance do you have between gateway-sensors ?

      Regards
      Joacim

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      • jocke4uJ jocke4u

        Hi again,
        First I would like to thank you all for the support/ideas etc and I really want to get sensors stable and reliable. Sure this EnergyMeterPulseSensor is not the most critical one and sure the sketch can be improved not to loose KWH readings/accumulations (Watts is a snapshot) when send fails. But with more critical sensors where something else is triggered.
        Anyway, since I have problem with the EnergyMeterPulseSensor sending data (not counting pulses) I need to get that working and set the "foundation" for future sensors. Sure I have some other test sensors...

        Yesterday I took the following actions.
        EnergyMeterPulseSensor

        • Reverted back to NRF24L01+ due to lower power consumtion
        • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
        • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(incomingMessage); (not using RF24_PA_LOW)

        Gateway

        • Still using NRF24L01+PA+LNA
        • Still using 47 uF capacitor to radio power
        • Added AMS1117 5V-3.3V Step Down Module connected to a separate USB charger feeding the radio
        • Reverted back to the standard code with gw.begin(); not using RF24_PA_LOW

        But unfortunately no success.

        So I wonder what you have as hardware reference architecture;

        • Do you have a verified and reliable solution?
        • What components do you use?
        • What working distance do you have between gateway-sensors ?

        Regards
        Joacim

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        RJ_Make
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        wrote on last edited by
        #17

        @jocke4u
        Have you tried MySensors 1.3b yet?

        RJ_Make

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        • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

          @jocke4u
          Have you tried MySensors 1.3b yet?

          jocke4uJ Offline
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          jocke4u
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          @ServiceXp
          I have had 1.3b before but without capacitor etc.
          Maybe time to go back to 1.3b3, to see if that works better.

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          • jocke4uJ jocke4u

            @ServiceXp
            I have had 1.3b before but without capacitor etc.
            Maybe time to go back to 1.3b3, to see if that works better.

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            wrote on last edited by
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            @jocke4u
            At least In my environment, I had zero communication problems with v1.3. Can't say that about 1.4.

            RJ_Make

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            • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

              @jocke4u
              At least In my environment, I had zero communication problems with v1.3. Can't say that about 1.4.

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              @ServiceXp said:

              Can't say that about 1.4.

              Do you mean you're having problems with 1.4 then or did you just not have any experience with it yet?

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • jocke4uJ Offline
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                jocke4u
                wrote on last edited by
                #21

                DAMN :( :(
                I think dataMine played a prank on me and the statistic is probably not correct (not logging everything). Will hook in my MQTT monitor to extract statistics in a way I control it.
                Currently I am running 1.3b3 and will run a test sensor for a while to see how it's works and then eventually go for 1.4 again.
                Thanks for your support and I have learnt more about power and capacitors :)

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                • YveauxY Yveaux

                  @ServiceXp said:

                  Can't say that about 1.4.

                  Do you mean you're having problems with 1.4 then or did you just not have any experience with it yet?

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                  RJ_Make
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                  @Yveaux
                  I think both.. The radio problems I had drove me crazy, and then there's still the temps not converting to F using the existing 1.4b library. Which is not a big problem thanks to @hek help.

                  I literately had zero issues with the 1.3b library.

                  RJ_Make

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                  • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                    @Yveaux
                    I think both.. The radio problems I had drove me crazy, and then there's still the temps not converting to F using the existing 1.4b library. Which is not a big problem thanks to @hek help.

                    I literately had zero issues with the 1.3b library.

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                    @ServiceXp I'm not aware of any major issues with 1.4 at the moment and @hek is about to tag it. If you are really having (radio) issues related to 1.4 we should fix them asap.

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • YveauxY Yveaux

                      @ServiceXp I'm not aware of any major issues with 1.4 at the moment and @hek is about to tag it. If you are really having (radio) issues related to 1.4 we should fix them asap.

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                      #24

                      @Yveaux

                      At this point I think I found the solution, but have not built up another test bed to make sure the solution worked. The temp conversion problem is persistent,

                      http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/309/1-4b-radio-transmission-problem-not-present-in-1-3b

                      RJ_Make

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                      • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                        @Yveaux

                        At this point I think I found the solution, but have not built up another test bed to make sure the solution worked. The temp conversion problem is persistent,

                        http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/309/1-4b-radio-transmission-problem-not-present-in-1-3b

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                        #25

                        @ServiceXp you said in this post:

                        That was it!!!!! I tried 22uF, was still doggie, so I thought why not move up to 47uF wink and what do you know, that seems to be the winning value. I have some more testing, but looking pretty good so far.

                        This sounds to me that the issue is solved...
                        I can imagine that 1.4 requires a bigger cap while 1.3 doesn't. 1.4 uses auto acknowledge which can send burst packets. This could put a bigger load on your power supply.

                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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