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  • C4VetteC Offline
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    @Yveaux
    No, just one sensor-node and a serial gateway. I did use more Arduino's, but just for swapping to try and find the culprit by elimination.

    @hek
    Tomorrow I will try your suggestion. But you mean only lower the power of the gw? Wouldn't that just make it worse? Will try anyway and report back. And you say the ack isn't picked up, shouldn't the sensor resend then? Thanks so far.

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      @Yveaux
      No, just one sensor-node and a serial gateway. I did use more Arduino's, but just for swapping to try and find the culprit by elimination.

      @hek
      Tomorrow I will try your suggestion. But you mean only lower the power of the gw? Wouldn't that just make it worse? Will try anyway and report back. And you say the ack isn't picked up, shouldn't the sensor resend then? Thanks so far.

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      @C4Vette said:

      Tomorrow I will try your suggestion. But you mean only lower the power of the gw? Wouldn't that just make it worse?

      With two LNA+PA units you should have lots of link budget left over (lots of slack) at that range - IF both modules have all the input power they need. But if either nRF's drawing too much power and its power supply is sagging or malfunctioning, the nRF may be floundering too.

      So I think the point of reducing transmit power is to reduce the draw on the input power supply, to see if the nRF works better. At that range you should still be able to communicate with less than full power.

      You could also just try testing with known-good power supplies which can easily handle the nRF's load even with LAN & PA.

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        To be honest, I could not believe it had to do with the power. So I kept on trying several other things like changing channels. But in the end nothing really helped so I lowered to "RF24_PA_HIGH" for the GateWay. And THAT really helped :flushed:
        So I must admit that the 3.3v is not up to the demand. That is weird because I use a LM1117 on a breakout board plus on additional capacitor over the 3.3v side. LM1117.JPG
        Could it the be that the Nano's 5v is not up to it to deliver enough current from it's 5v pin?
        I have the GateWay on an external USB-hub with its own power-source.

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          @C4Vette said:

          Could it the be that the Nano's 5v is not up to it to deliver enough current from it's 5v pin?
          I have the GateWay on an external USB-hub with its own power-source.

          Yes, it could be. Try bypassing the Arduino.

          I'm currently running PA_LOW on my amplified gateway.

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            @C4Vette said:

            Could it the be that the Nano's 5v is not up to it to deliver enough current from it's 5v pin?
            I have the GateWay on an external USB-hub with its own power-source.

            Yes, it could be. Try bypassing the Arduino.

            I'm currently running PA_LOW on my amplified gateway.

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            @hek said:

            I'm currently running PA_LOW on my amplified gateway.

            Does this mean you have to run everything at PA_LOW?

            Any idea what disadvantage is attached to this setting?

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              @hek said:

              I'm currently running PA_LOW on my amplified gateway.

              Does this mean you have to run everything at PA_LOW?

              Any idea what disadvantage is attached to this setting?

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              @marceltrapman said:

              Does this mean you have to run everything at PA_LOW?

              My vanilla radios run at maximum. Only the amplified gateway run at LOW. The 3.3V pin on the Nano does not seem to cope with full power transmissions (at least in my setup with Vera powering Nano without any powered USB hub). Range is no problem in my house with LOW setting.

              Any idea what disadvantage is attached to this setting?

              Shorter range for outgoing/ack messages.

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                Which size resitor is used?

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                  Nice box. This is exactly what I am looking for. However, I am wondering what is the black rectangle thingy next to the LEDs for.

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                  • masterkenobiM masterkenobi

                    Nice box. This is exactly what I am looking for. However, I am wondering what is the black rectangle thingy next to the LEDs for.

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                    @masterkenobi said:

                    ........... I am wondering what is the black rectangle thingy next to the LEDs for.
                    It's a pushbutton for inclusion of new nodes.

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                    • C4VetteC C4Vette

                      @masterkenobi said:

                      ........... I am wondering what is the black rectangle thingy next to the LEDs for.
                      It's a pushbutton for inclusion of new nodes.

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                      @C4Vette thanks! I can see more details is at http://www.mysensors.org/build/advanced_gateway

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