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Help Debug st=fail

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  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

    Is your gateway working?
    st=fail often means power issues. How are you powering the radio and are you using a capacitor?

    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help contains more information about troubleshooting and how to read the debug output.

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    @mfalkvidd The gateway works fine as other sensors are being received.

    Since I am using battery power on the Sensebender Micro, there is no capacitor as that would drain the battery.

    What else could be the issue?

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      A working capacitor does not drain batterypower once charged. Is there one built in the sensebender? If not you should use one.

      It's a range or power issue. Try moving it closer or further away from the gw. If it's the range you might need a repeater.

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      • sundberg84S sundberg84

        A working capacitor does not drain batterypower once charged. Is there one built in the sensebender? If not you should use one.

        It's a range or power issue. Try moving it closer or further away from the gw. If it's the range you might need a repeater.

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        @sundberg84 The Sensebender does not have a capacitor, other than bypass.
        Not a range issue either, close or further away does not make a difference.

        It's pretty consistent with the st=fail debug output.

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          What was the result when you added a capacitor?

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            @tcontrada Do you use signing? What is the range of distances you tried. A couple of weeks ago I had to realize that if put my nodes to near to each other I received transmission failures.

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            • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

              What was the result when you added a capacitor?

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              @mfalkvidd The bypass caps are already installed on the PCB.
              The SenseBender Micro runs off 2 AA batteries and there is no extra cap on it (that was the design).

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                @tcontrada Do you use signing? What is the range of distances you tried. A couple of weeks ago I had to realize that if put my nodes to near to each other I received transmission failures.

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                @tomkxy No signing on my modules...

                Distance from a few feet to 20, 50, 100 ft. All yield the same result.

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                  Did you try different radios? Anyway, I would try to solder a cap on the radio.

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                    Yes, the built-in capacitor on the sensebender should be sufficient. Sorry.

                    Have you tried switching the radio with one you know works?

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                      #13

                      I had a lot of fails on the Sensebender I've installed, and I noticed that I got better transmission when holding the pcb. I then tested to put some aluminium foil with plastic wrap for insulation between the backside of the pcb radio antenna and the Sensbender pcb. This was a winner.

                      There's been a lot of discussion about possible interference from the FTDI 6 pin metal header. I haven't tested my setup without the header or with the header positioned differently, but that's one suspect on my list of culprits.

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                      • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                        I had a lot of fails on the Sensebender I've installed, and I noticed that I got better transmission when holding the pcb. I then tested to put some aluminium foil with plastic wrap for insulation between the backside of the pcb radio antenna and the Sensbender pcb. This was a winner.

                        There's been a lot of discussion about possible interference from the FTDI 6 pin metal header. I haven't tested my setup without the header or with the header positioned differently, but that's one suspect on my list of culprits.

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                        @martinhjelmare I think you might be on to something, as I have noticed that other microcontroller modules point the antenna away from the PCB, where as the Sensebender and RF module are overlapping.

                        I will investigate by adding jumper wires from the SenseBender and the RF module to add some separation.

                        Thanks...

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