domoticz auto add device (mysensors) even if disable "Accept new Hardware Devices"

[Reza]

@Anticimex
in domoticz forum told me this issue is related to mysensors gateway and here told me this issue is related to domoticz :)

[Anticimex]

@Reza Well, you said it yourself. It works with Vera. So it is obviously not a MySensors issue.

[Reza]

@Anticimex
but in vera , there is a device(gateway) with inclusion button but in domoticz my gateway dont have a inclusion button , so this is related to domoticz?

[Anticimex]

@Reza Well, of course it is! MySensors cannot control what Domoticz UI shows.

[Reza]

@Anticimex said:

Well, of course it is! MySensors cannot control what Domoticz UI shows.

right :( so i must change my controller ? i want a open surce controller and a good controller :(

[Anticimex]

@Reza Or you get the Domoticz people to fix their shit.

[Reza]

@Anticimex said:

Or you get the Domoticz people to fix their shit.

but they told me this problem is related to mysensors gateway ! :|
one more question. can i use static id between my device and gateway? and i disable feature inclusion mode ? so my gateway dont auto add other devices...

[Anticimex]

@Reza So convenient for them. But we at MySensors cannot change how domoticz works so I if they don't want to fix it, well, that is just too bad.

[Reza]

@Anticimex
yes , also i explain to them that this problem is related to domoticz because mysensors gateway is working well with vera controller and there is a inclusion button in vera dashboard , but in domoticz...

[tbowmo]

Another solution, could be to change the default rf channel, and have the two houses on different frequencies.

[Reza]

@tbowmo

this is good . how do this ?

[tbowmo]

Look in myconfig.h, if I remember right.. There should be some hints

[tekka]

@Reza The community cannot focus all energy on supporting your case. Many if not all of your questions are answered in the howtos & forum - why don't you take advantage of the search function, enter "rf channel" and read some of the posts?

[Reza]

@tbowmo said:

Look in myconfig.h, if I remember right.. There should be some hints

thank you

[Reza]

@tekka
this is a general issue . not just my problem ! if this issue resolved so can help to many people in future ! the reason of that i question this issue in this forum is after resolved , can help to many. so if you sad from this , ok i will silence in this forum.
thank you

[scalz]

@Reza
sad from this, is not needed :)
the thing is : this is not a big bug!! generally the big bug is elsewhere ;) Here you have two issues.

You are using radios which are on the same frequency. Not a bug. That makes sense that a fresh node for your network can talk with others. If you don't want them on same freq, just change the freq/band using the right define (i don't remember).

It also has been suggested encryption or signing. And that can help you too. Encryption can't help you for this. It just hides crypt the text if you want. It does not authenticate anything. Signing is authentication. But you would need this for all your nodes.

Finally, the inclusion mode. That's mostly the feature you need, because it could help you to block new nodes. I think this is a feature that the controller has to implement. I don't use inclusion mode in mysensors (not tried yet),
but in the controller I'm using (jeedom), it works well. There is one inclusion button (I don't advice you to use jeedom, it's french! and not 2.0 full compliant). As you can see this is possible to have a working inclusion button in controller :)

On my side, I actually miss time to do tests or doc on this...but i'm pretty sure all is in main doc, or with the right keyword in the forum...i understand this is not an "out of the box" solution, but temporarily, and maybe with luck and spare time there might be a dedicated doc for inclusion even if it's quite simple..

[Nicklas Starkel]

@scalz said:

@Reza
Finally, the inclusion mode. That's mostly the feature you need, because it could help you to block new nodes. I think this is a feature that the controller has to implement. I don't use inclusion mode in mysensors (not tried yet),
but in the controller I'm using (jeedom), it works well. There is one inclusion button (I don't advice you to use jeedom, it's french! and not 2.0 full compliant). As you can see this is possible to have a working inclusion button in controller :)

You have to use whitelisting to block nodes. 'Signing' in GateWay does not work as it accepts non signed nodes. Signing primarily is used for nodes receiving info.

[Reza]

@scalz
thank you my friend

[Reza]

@Nicklas-Starkel
are you sure about whitelisting? this problem resolved with whitelisting???

[Nicklas Starkel]

@Reza
From what I understand the GateWay will add all nodes even if you do not want them to. But not to the controller if you have "inclusion option" on the GateWay.
There is a possibility that if you use the "inclusion option" maybe it will pick up all sensors not already added (ie your neighbour) if they are sending while inclusion is looking for new sensors.
If you want to stop this you will have to use whitelisting on MAC adress. But this requires you to reprogram GateWay everytime you want to add new sensor (or maybe it is possibility to have same MAC for all?).
And of course you will have to program a MAC adress for all sensors/per sensor the first time as well.
I thought this problem would be solved with only using Signing, but because of backwards compability the creators did not enable this in the GateWay.
If you only would want signing, you could make all nodes connect via a repeater node.
Because between repeater nodes and regular nodes signing is enabled and no other nodes is accepted which aren't signed with correct signing :)
And if you use Whitelisting only between GateWay and repeater node, you are set.

Note: I could be wrong ;)