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Is there a schematic of the NRF24 board?

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  • I ivan.todorovich

    Hello @marceltrapman, how will you power the board from the mains?

    I'm a noob in this things yet.. and I'm trying to make a relay sensor to control lights, also put behind the electrical outlet (220vac).. I'm having trouble figuring out if I should add some kind of transformer for every sensor or maybe distribute a 5vdc line from the controller itself..

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    @ivan.todorovich

    I think finding a solution to fix inside the electrical box with the outlet is going to be difficult, but I'm very interested in what you come up with.

    RJ_Make

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      @ServiceXp said:

      I think finding a solution to fix inside the electrical box with the outlet is going to be difficult, but I'm very interested in what you come up with.

      Yeah, I know.. although I know it must be possible otherwise this wouldn't exist:

      Dimensions: 49,5 x 48,5 x 15 mm.
      Habeetat® HPA-2130
      Habeetat® HPA-2130 Datasheet

      That's exactly what I want.. but a cheaper, hack-friendly and MySensors compatible version of it.

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      • I ivan.todorovich

        @ServiceXp said:

        I think finding a solution to fix inside the electrical box with the outlet is going to be difficult, but I'm very interested in what you come up with.

        Yeah, I know.. although I know it must be possible otherwise this wouldn't exist:

        Dimensions: 49,5 x 48,5 x 15 mm.
        Habeetat® HPA-2130
        Habeetat® HPA-2130 Datasheet

        That's exactly what I want.. but a cheaper, hack-friendly and MySensors compatible version of it.

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        @ivan.todorovich
        Oh it's possible, but I think you will need to build from the pcb up to meet the goal.

        RJ_Make

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        • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

          @ivan.todorovich
          Oh it's possible, but I think you will need to build from the pcb up to meet the goal.

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          @ServiceXp said:

          @ivan.todorovich
          Oh it's possible, but I think you will need to build from the pcb up to meet the goal.

          And that is what I intend to do.

          The first application would be controlling our shutters.

          I am not sure yet how I am going to do this.

          • In wall behind (or replacing) the current timer that operates the shutters;
          • Next to the shutter motor (would give more room);

          In any case they will be operated with 220v. There are enough ways to do that...

          Fulltime Servoy Developer
          Parttime Moderator MySensors board

          I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
          I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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          • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

            @ServiceXp said:

            @ivan.todorovich
            Oh it's possible, but I think you will need to build from the pcb up to meet the goal.

            And that is what I intend to do.

            The first application would be controlling our shutters.

            I am not sure yet how I am going to do this.

            • In wall behind (or replacing) the current timer that operates the shutters;
            • Next to the shutter motor (would give more room);

            In any case they will be operated with 220v. There are enough ways to do that...

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            @marceltrapman
            Would love to see the results. What type of chips are planing to use DIP, QFP, QFN.?

            If you are successful, it's going to open up another world of possibilities for MySensors users, Providing it doesn't involve SMD work that is... ;-)

            RJ_Make

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            • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

              @marceltrapman
              Would love to see the results. What type of chips are planing to use DIP, QFP, QFN.?

              If you are successful, it's going to open up another world of possibilities for MySensors users, Providing it doesn't involve SMD work that is... ;-)

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              @ServiceXp all SMD including

              ATMEGA328P-AU, TQFP-32
              Winbond W25X40, SOP-8

              Fulltime Servoy Developer
              Parttime Moderator MySensors board

              I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
              I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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              • I ivan.todorovich

                Hello @marceltrapman, how will you power the board from the mains?

                I'm a noob in this things yet.. and I'm trying to make a relay sensor to control lights, also put behind the electrical outlet (220vac).. I'm having trouble figuring out if I should add some kind of transformer for every sensor or maybe distribute a 5vdc line from the controller itself..

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                @ivan.todorovich I'm thinking about re-using the power supply and possibly touch board of this project: http://www.elektor-magazine.com/en/magazine-contents/previous-issues.html?tx_elektorarticle_listissues[article]=26510&tx_elektorarticle_listissues[action]=show&cHash=830afaabd7423433a83dca9198de8e12

                Magazine:http://lasersoft.com.au/books/Archived/rocvm.Elektor.Electronics.USA..June.2014.pdf

                http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

                  @ServiceXp all SMD including

                  ATMEGA328P-AU, TQFP-32
                  Winbond W25X40, SOP-8

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                  @marceltrapman
                  Bummer. Don't think I would be able to handle the SMD requirement.

                  RJ_Make

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                  • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                    @marceltrapman
                    Bummer. Don't think I would be able to handle the SMD requirement.

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                    @ServiceXp said:

                    @marceltrapman
                    Bummer. Don't think I would be able to handle the SMD requirement.

                    It is really not that hard.
                    People seem to solder it I use a rework blower.
                    A real cheap one (to see what it brings me) but with good result.
                    With the # of components and the # of boards we need it is really doable...

                    Fulltime Servoy Developer
                    Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                    I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                    I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                      @marceltrapman I'd love to see your work when its done.

                      I'm currently considering wiring 12v around the house to feed sensors, and maybe replace the wireless board by implementing a wired signal protocol (modbus for instance).

                      I have a feeling it would be more efficient regarding power consumption, and the house wouldn't be so saturated with 2.4ghz radio signals.. which might not be so healthy

                      I must reiterate though, I'm a noob.. so if anything I just said doesn't make sense please object me :D I would appreciate

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                      • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

                        @ServiceXp said:

                        @marceltrapman
                        Bummer. Don't think I would be able to handle the SMD requirement.

                        It is really not that hard.
                        People seem to solder it I use a rework blower.
                        A real cheap one (to see what it brings me) but with good result.
                        With the # of components and the # of boards we need it is really doable...

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                        @marceltrapman

                        Don't know if this will help you with some idea's but I pulled apart my Aeotec Zwave extender and took some pics. If you need me to get any other info from any of the components just let me know.

                        This thing is pretty small. and is powered from Mains

                        20141004_211510_Android.jpg

                        20141004_210303_Android.jpg 20141004_210249_Android.jpg 20141004_205531_Android.jpg 20141004_205448_Android.jpg 20141004_205428_Android.jpg 20141004_205320_Android.jpg 20141004_205252_Android.jpg 20141004_205211_Android.jpg 20141004_205146_Android.jpg

                        RJ_Make

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                        • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                          @marceltrapman

                          Don't know if this will help you with some idea's but I pulled apart my Aeotec Zwave extender and took some pics. If you need me to get any other info from any of the components just let me know.

                          This thing is pretty small. and is powered from Mains

                          20141004_211510_Android.jpg

                          20141004_210303_Android.jpg 20141004_210249_Android.jpg 20141004_205531_Android.jpg 20141004_205448_Android.jpg 20141004_205428_Android.jpg 20141004_205320_Android.jpg 20141004_205252_Android.jpg 20141004_205211_Android.jpg 20141004_205146_Android.jpg

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                          @ServiceXp Very interesting teardown! Apparently it uses a flex-pcb for the antenna -- that's one solution you don't see very often.
                          Power supply is 'standard' transformer-less capacitor/resistor design.

                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                          • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                            @marceltrapman

                            Don't know if this will help you with some idea's but I pulled apart my Aeotec Zwave extender and took some pics. If you need me to get any other info from any of the components just let me know.

                            This thing is pretty small. and is powered from Mains

                            20141004_211510_Android.jpg

                            20141004_210303_Android.jpg 20141004_210249_Android.jpg 20141004_205531_Android.jpg 20141004_205448_Android.jpg 20141004_205428_Android.jpg 20141004_205320_Android.jpg 20141004_205252_Android.jpg 20141004_205211_Android.jpg 20141004_205146_Android.jpg

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                            @ServiceXp Thanks it looks pretty much the same as my AEOTEC range extenders.
                            The only difference is 220v :)

                            Fulltime Servoy Developer
                            Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                            I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                            I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                            • I ivan.todorovich

                              Hello @marceltrapman, how will you power the board from the mains?

                              I'm a noob in this things yet.. and I'm trying to make a relay sensor to control lights, also put behind the electrical outlet (220vac).. I'm having trouble figuring out if I should add some kind of transformer for every sensor or maybe distribute a 5vdc line from the controller itself..

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                              @ivan.todorovich

                              Hi! See this examples how to power it from 220V without tranformer.
                              http://www.designercircuits.com/DesignNote1a.pdf

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