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  • ? A Former User

    Hi guys!

    I'd like to ask you about a problem. When I use RFM69 radios on my nodes, they are working fine, but when I try to use the NRFs everything is falling apart and that's driving me crazy. I can't find the solution to use NRFs (I've got 20 of them). I tried everything, read the forum a hundred times, but can't find the solution. Poer sources are perfect, every NRF has it's own 3.3v source and after a few hours or a few days perfect working, the nodes disappear (not all and not in the same time). I'm using Domoticz as controller on a RPI 2. I saw the node's L13 led's blinking is much lighter after the node disappears. When it's working okay, the led is blinking on full.

    Thank you for the suggestions, and have a nice day

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    @ZsoltZombori what does the serial debug output of the nodes say?

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    • ? A Former User

      Hi guys!

      I'd like to ask you about a problem. When I use RFM69 radios on my nodes, they are working fine, but when I try to use the NRFs everything is falling apart and that's driving me crazy. I can't find the solution to use NRFs (I've got 20 of them). I tried everything, read the forum a hundred times, but can't find the solution. Poer sources are perfect, every NRF has it's own 3.3v source and after a few hours or a few days perfect working, the nodes disappear (not all and not in the same time). I'm using Domoticz as controller on a RPI 2. I saw the node's L13 led's blinking is much lighter after the node disappears. When it's working okay, the led is blinking on full.

      Thank you for the suggestions, and have a nice day

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      #34

      @ZsoltZombori

      I had a problem of the LED on pin 13 glowing dim after some time of system running fine when I had 2 sensors connected to the Arduino and sensors had their own separate 5V power supply. So, I had a 5V power supply separate from the Arduino's 5V and that was supplying current to those sensors.

      I had the sensor's data pins connected to Arduino but I didn't have GND of power supply and Arduino connected. I solved the problem by connecting the GND of power supply to the GND of the Arduino.

      See if that is the case with you.

      Hope this helps.

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      • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

        @ZsoltZombori what does the serial debug output of the nodes say?

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        #35

        @mfalkvidd I put the node on serial for the night and everything works fine now. No errors occured, I'm still waiting.
        @palande-vaibhav The GNDs are always connected in my circuits to prevent GND problems. Thanks for the tip.

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        • ? A Former User

          @mfalkvidd I put the node on serial for the night and everything works fine now. No errors occured, I'm still waiting.
          @palande-vaibhav The GNDs are always connected in my circuits to prevent GND problems. Thanks for the tip.

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          #36

          @ZsoltZombori
          Exactly that was a problem with my system too. When I had it connected to the computer using the serial cable everything would just run fine but as soon as I removed the serial cable from computer and let it run on its own with the power supply connected with a DC jack, everything would just fall apart the LED's would go dim and that's when I discovered the problem of the ground but you already have all the grounds connected so I'm out of clues here.
          I would suggest you to check the power supply connections again with a multimeter to make sure that everything is connected properly.

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          • palande.vaibhavP palande.vaibhav

            @ZsoltZombori
            Exactly that was a problem with my system too. When I had it connected to the computer using the serial cable everything would just run fine but as soon as I removed the serial cable from computer and let it run on its own with the power supply connected with a DC jack, everything would just fall apart the LED's would go dim and that's when I discovered the problem of the ground but you already have all the grounds connected so I'm out of clues here.
            I would suggest you to check the power supply connections again with a multimeter to make sure that everything is connected properly.

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            wrote on last edited by A Former User
            #37

            @palande.vaibhav I double checked everything and the PCB is perfect. Still waiting for a failure, but it's working now. I'm wondering what was the problem for weeks with the NRFs. The RFMs are working like a charm. Anyway, thank you for the ideas :)
            Edit: there were two fails in ~21hrs, I attach the debug code:

            Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0)
            TSM:INIT
            TSM:RADIO:OK
            TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=3)
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-3 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
            TSP:MSG:FPAR RES (ID=0, dist=0)
            TSP:MSG:PAR OK (ID=0, dist=1)
            TSM:FPAR:OK
            TSM:ID
            TSM:CHKID:OK (ID=3)
            TSM:UPL
            TSP:PING:SEND (dest=0)
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1
            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-3 s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
            TSP:MSG:PONG RECV (hops=1)
            TSP:CHKUPL:OK
            TSM:UPL:OK
            TSM:READY
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0100
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=0,t=17,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2.0.0
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:0
            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-3 s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-3 s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=18,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:Temperature Sensor
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:1.1
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:
            Request registration...
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:2
            TSP:MSG:READ 0-0-3 s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
            Node registration=1
            Init complete, id=3, parent=0, distance=1, registration=1
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.6
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.6
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.6
            [...]
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.6
            !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:22.6
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=1,st=ok:22.6
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.6
            [...]
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.5
            !TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:22.5
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=1,st=ok:22.5
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            [...]
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.5
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.5
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.5
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            TSP:MSG:SEND 3-3-0-0 s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=ok:22.4
            
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              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              How i must change sketch Gateway and node to use radio RFM69HW ? In sketch i see only for simple RFM69 not RFM69HW.

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                scalz
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                #39

                for using RFM69HW, you just need to use the common rfm69 defines and add this

                #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                
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                • scalzS scalz

                  for using RFM69HW, you just need to use the common rfm69 defines and add this

                  #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                  
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                  #40

                  @scalz
                  Do you add the rfm69hw def to the gateway sketch or to the myconfig.h?

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                  • scalzS scalz

                    for using RFM69HW, you just need to use the common rfm69 defines and add this

                    #define MY_IS_RFM69HW
                    
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                    korttoma
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                    wrote on last edited by korttoma
                    #41

                    @rmtucker

                    You add the #define to your sketch

                    Hi @scalz ,
                    Will a RFM69HW work without the "#define MY_IS_RFM69HW" ?

                    What exactly does this #define do for the HW version?

                    Have only used RFM69W so far but have ordered some HW now also.

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                      #42

                      to your GW sketch.
                      Also, for using RFM69H you need this define,else the radio can't work properly. This allow us to set the right Radio power level registers in lib.
                      @korttoma just curious :) Have you tried my rfm69 repo?

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                      • scalzS scalz

                        to your GW sketch.
                        Also, for using RFM69H you need this define,else the radio can't work properly. This allow us to set the right Radio power level registers in lib.
                        @korttoma just curious :) Have you tried my rfm69 repo?

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                        #43

                        @scalz
                        So does a H version radio work if you do not set the high power registers?

                        @scalz said:

                        @korttoma just curious Have you tried my rfm69 repo?

                        Sorry, I have not yet had the opportunity to test your repo. There is so much non MySensors activities now when Christmas is approaching.

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                          #44

                          With radio RFM69HW for gateway sketch should looks as:

                          /**

                          • The MySensors Arduino library handles the wireless radio link and protocol
                          • between your home built sensors/actuators and HA controller of choice.
                          • The sensors forms a self healing radio network with optional repeaters. Each
                          • repeater and gateway builds a routing tables in EEPROM which keeps track of the
                          • network topology allowing messages to be routed to nodes.
                          • Created by Henrik Ekblad henrik.ekblad@mysensors.org
                          • Copyright (C) 2013-2015 Sensnology AB
                          • Full contributor list: https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/graphs/contributors
                          • Documentation: http://www.mysensors.org
                          • Support Forum: http://forum.mysensors.org
                          • This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
                          • modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
                          • version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation.

                          • DESCRIPTION
                          • The ArduinoGateway prints data received from sensors on the serial link.
                          • The gateway accepts input on seral which will be sent out on radio network.
                          • The GW code is designed for Arduino Nano 328p / 16MHz
                          • Wire connections (OPTIONAL):
                            • Inclusion button should be connected between digital pin 3 and GND
                            • RX/TX/ERR leds need to be connected between +5V (anode) and digital pin 6/5/4 with resistor 270-330R in a series
                          • LEDs (OPTIONAL):
                            • To use the feature, uncomment any of the MY_DEFAULT_xx_LED_PINs
                            • RX (green) - blink fast on radio message recieved. In inclusion mode will blink fast only on presentation recieved
                            • TX (yellow) - blink fast on radio message transmitted. In inclusion mode will blink slowly
                            • ERR (red) - fast blink on error during transmission error or recieve crc error

                          */

                          // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                          #define MY_DEBUG

                          // Enable and select radio type attached
                          //#define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                          #define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                          #define MY_IS_RFM69HW

                          // Set LOW transmit power level as default, if you have an amplified NRF-module and
                          // power your radio separately with a good regulator you can turn up PA level.
                          //#define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW

                          // Enable serial gateway
                          #define MY_GATEWAY_SERIAL

                          // Define a lower baud rate for Arduino's running on 8 MHz (Arduino Pro Mini 3.3V & SenseBender)
                          #if F_CPU == 8000000L
                          #define MY_BAUD_RATE 38400
                          #endif

                          // Enable inclusion mode
                          #define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_FEATURE
                          // Enable Inclusion mode button on gateway
                          //#define MY_INCLUSION_BUTTON_FEATURE

                          // Inverses behavior of inclusion button (if using external pullup)
                          //#define MY_INCLUSION_BUTTON_EXTERNAL_PULLUP

                          // Set inclusion mode duration (in seconds)
                          #define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_DURATION 60
                          // Digital pin used for inclusion mode button
                          //#define MY_INCLUSION_MODE_BUTTON_PIN 3

                          // Set blinking period
                          #define MY_DEFAULT_LED_BLINK_PERIOD 300

                          // Inverses the behavior of leds
                          //#define MY_WITH_LEDS_BLINKING_INVERSE

                          // Flash leds on rx/tx/err
                          // Uncomment to override default HW configurations
                          //#define MY_DEFAULT_ERR_LED_PIN 4 // Error led pin
                          //#define MY_DEFAULT_RX_LED_PIN 6 // Receive led pin
                          //#define MY_DEFAULT_TX_LED_PIN 5 // the PCB, on board LED

                          #include <MySensors.h>

                          void setup() {
                          // Setup locally attached sensors
                          }

                          void presentation() {
                          // Present locally attached sensors

                          // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                          sendSketchInfo("MySensors Serial Gateway", "2.0.0");
                          }

                          void loop() {
                          // Send locally attached sensor data here
                          }

                          ?????

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                            wrote on last edited by scalz
                            #45

                            @pepson if you're using an Arduino Mini pro or equivalent, and follow the recommanded wiring for the radio (CS and INT), looks ok to me.

                            @korttoma oki. no it won't work if the define is not set for HW version, and vice versa. Because the W and HW use different registers for setting power levels

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                              #46

                              Now i test it on Arduino nano byt finally i want use it on Arduino Mini Pro. Wirering i use as show on this page.

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                                #47

                                @pepson oki. But you've not explained what's your problem, without logs etc..

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                                  #48

                                  Now any problem. I only need info how write sketch to use radio RFM69HW.

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                                  • scalzS scalz

                                    @pepson if you're using an Arduino Mini pro or equivalent, and follow the recommanded wiring for the radio (CS and INT), looks ok to me.

                                    @korttoma oki. no it won't work if the define is not set for HW version, and vice versa. Because the W and HW use different registers for setting power levels

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                                    wrote on last edited by rmtucker
                                    #49

                                    @scalz
                                    Is there an instruction to alter the power level on the RFM69?
                                    From inside a mysensors sketch like the NRF24_PA_level?

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                                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                                      #50

                                      @rmtucker no not yet (not sure, i need to check). But yes, in the next release ;)

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                                      • pepsonP pepson

                                        Now any problem. I only need info how write sketch to use radio RFM69HW.

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                                        #51

                                        @pepson said:

                                        Now any problem. I only need info how write sketch to use radio RFM69HW.

                                        Try the MockMySensors.ino sketch and enable a few sensors.

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                                          #52

                                          Good will be add manual how in sketch change level for RFM69HW when new version released. I know that should be released on chrismass

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