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[SOLVED] Problems with Ethernet Gateway (Arduino Ethernet Shield)

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  • korttomaK Offline
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    korttoma
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    #21

    Thanks @niccodemi for the detailed how to. Now to only thing unclear to me is if this can be applied on the Ethernet board I have or should I order a new one? I have built a Ethernet GW with a Pro mini and that Ethernet board but I just have not found time to take it in to use and then there was all this about the SPI issue that made me push the task ahead of me.

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      @korttoma , I don't see why it shouldn't work with your board. It doesn't cost you anything to try and report back here how it went.

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        @BulldogLowell , are you using relay actuators with your ethernet gw?

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          @BulldogLowell , are you using relay actuators with your ethernet gw?

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          @niccodemi

          I'm not sure I know what you mean... Do you mean are some attached node used as relays?

          Gateway still working perfectly...

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            @BulldogLowell yes, node with relay.

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              @BulldogLowell yes, node with relay.

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              @niccodemi

              I had... but converted it back to regular non-repeating node.

              I had too much trouble with it, but that was before I had this stable Ethernet gateway.

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                Would Just like to say thank you to every one, this fixed my GW problems as well.

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                  #28

                  I was finally gona tackle my own Ethernet GW but I got stuck at the "0;0;3;0;9;check wires" issue.

                  I'we checked the wires a couple of times. Tried 4 different power supplies, rewired so that only the radio gets the 3.3v from the LM2937ET-3.3 regulator (arduino Pro mini 3.3 feed with 5v on the raw pin and Ethernet module also gets 5v since it has a AMS1117 onboard). I do have a 47uF cap close to the radio. Tried regular radio module and the PA-LNA module that I was planing on using.

                  The "check wires" is related to the radio module only right?

                  Guess I will have to go back to the breadboard to see if I can get it working.

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                    #29

                    Do we need to remove this Soft SPI mod to build sensors now?

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                      Do we need to remove this Soft SPI mod to build sensors now?

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                      @p0lar

                      For normal sensors you should probably run with the hardware SPI. So yes. disable it when gateway has been compiled and flashed.

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                        #31

                        I have now tried on a breadboard with the same result "0;0;3;0;9;check wires". Swapped out the Pro Mini to a Nano same result. My conclusion would be that the Ethernet board I have can just not be used.

                        eth.jpg

                        How I connected:
                        Ethernet board arduino pin
                        NSS/SS D10
                        MO/MO A0
                        MI/MI A1
                        SOK/CK A2
                        V+5 tried with 3.3v 5v and 9v
                        GND GND

                        The radio was connected according to this

                        I'm still gona try the none SOFTSPI setup if I get the same result. edit -> same result here

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                        • korttomaK korttoma

                          I have now tried on a breadboard with the same result "0;0;3;0;9;check wires". Swapped out the Pro Mini to a Nano same result. My conclusion would be that the Ethernet board I have can just not be used.

                          eth.jpg

                          How I connected:
                          Ethernet board arduino pin
                          NSS/SS D10
                          MO/MO A0
                          MI/MI A1
                          SOK/CK A2
                          V+5 tried with 3.3v 5v and 9v
                          GND GND

                          The radio was connected according to this

                          I'm still gona try the none SOFTSPI setup if I get the same result. edit -> same result here

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                          Anticimex
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                          #32

                          @korttoma That W5100 module has no SPI_EN signal out on the pins, so you have to use soft SPI for it, or it will block the radio module. Or you can HW-patch the module to drive the inverse of the CS pin on the SPI_EN pin on the W5100 ASIC. If you instead does pull out SPI_EN to the Arduino you can use the config in the gateway sketch to handle the SPI_EN for you. I do this for my GW which has a W5100 module with SPI_EN available and it works a treat.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            I tried to use the SOFT_SPI but I always get check wires. So it seems like there is also something else. Only time I managed to get the sketch running was with the none soft_spi setup and I had power disconnected from the Ethernet module during startup and connected it later.

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                            • korttomaK korttoma

                              I tried to use the SOFT_SPI but I always get check wires. So it seems like there is also something else. Only time I managed to get the sketch running was with the none soft_spi setup and I had power disconnected from the Ethernet module during startup and connected it later.

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                              @korttoma Sorry to be asking these probably stupid questions but have you checked that

                              • all wires are properly connected, and in-line with the config in the software
                              • the RF module is ok (tested multiple ones)
                              • supply voltage is relatively free of noise (I have seen noice up to 1V in relative amplitude without proper decoupling on my breadboard)

                              I am pretty sure you will never get the GW running on that module without either SOFT_SPI or a HW patch to it.
                              To me it sounds like a good start would be to get to the point where you can get it running on SOFT_SPI without the W5100 "present". Just to establish that you can communicate with the RF module.
                              If you can do it on HW SPI, then it should not be a problem with the RF module itself, more a config error for SOFT_SPI.

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                                I we tried allot of different sources of power, this was the firs thing I did. I have a stupid question to. The radio connection are the same even if I use soft_spi right? Or should also the radio be connected to the 3 analog pins?

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                                • korttomaK korttoma

                                  I we tried allot of different sources of power, this was the firs thing I did. I have a stupid question to. The radio connection are the same even if I use soft_spi right? Or should also the radio be connected to the 3 analog pins?

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                                  @korttoma No, the whole point of using SOFT_SPI is that you use different pins. The reason is that the W5100 "hogs" the SPI interface, so if you cannot access SPI_EN on W5100 then you cannot share SPI pins with W5100.

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                                    @p0lar

                                    For normal sensors you should probably run with the hardware SPI. So yes. disable it when gateway has been compiled and flashed.

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                                    #37

                                    @hek Cool. maybe we can add a #define gateway and #define sensor to switch it between automagically.

                                    W5100 gateway working 2+ days so far on 1.4.1 with this mod. THANKS

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                                      korttoma
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                                      wrote on last edited by korttoma
                                      #38

                                      Found the problem. It was actualy this coment that made do the setup completely wrong:

                                      @BulldogLowell said:
                                      @niccodemi said:

                                      const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN = 15;
                                      const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN = 14;
                                      const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN = 16;
                                      

                                      and these are the correct pinouts for my Arduino Ethernet Shield, correct?

                                      This is moving the SPI communication between the Uno and the shield off to another set of pins, and we are leaving the radio pins on hardware SPI?

                                      So from this I had moved the Ethernet SPI pins to the allocated SOFT_SPI pins and not the radio pins like I was supposed to. @Dan-S did correct Jim but somehow I missed that part.

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                                      • korttomaK korttoma

                                        Found the problem. It was actualy this coment that made do the setup completely wrong:

                                        @BulldogLowell said:
                                        @niccodemi said:

                                        const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_MISO_PIN = 15;
                                        const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_MOSI_PIN = 14;
                                        const uint8_t SOFT_SPI_SCK_PIN = 16;
                                        

                                        and these are the correct pinouts for my Arduino Ethernet Shield, correct?

                                        This is moving the SPI communication between the Uno and the shield off to another set of pins, and we are leaving the radio pins on hardware SPI?

                                        So from this I had moved the Ethernet SPI pins to the allocated SOFT_SPI pins and not the radio pins like I was supposed to. @Dan-S did correct Jim but somehow I missed that part.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @korttoma said:

                                        and these are the correct pinouts for my Arduino Ethernet Shield, correct?

                                        No, this is the new pinout for the radio. Radio uses SoftSPI and the ethernet uses the good old hw SPI..

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                                          @korttoma said:

                                          and these are the correct pinouts for my Arduino Ethernet Shield, correct?

                                          No, this is the new pinout for the radio. Radio uses SoftSPI and the ethernet uses the good old hw SPI..

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                                          korttoma
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                                          #40

                                          @hec that was what I was trying to explain with my post also. It was an earlier post by Jim that got me to do the setup incorrectly.

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