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  • gohanG gohan

    The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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    Tommas
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    @gohan

    Oh! I missed that. I will look for another one with cap.

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    • gohanG gohan

      The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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      rejoe2
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      @gohan
      According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
      I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

      Anyone with different experiences?

      Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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      • rejoe2R rejoe2

        @gohan
        According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
        I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

        Anyone with different experiences?

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        @rejoe2

        Dear rejoe2!

        Thank You for the infos.
        Than i will buy two of this ebay version.

        Best regards,
        T

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          #30

          I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

          If they work, good find

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          • gohanG gohan

            I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

            If they work, good find

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            Tommas
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            @gohan

            On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

            I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

            Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

            Thanks,
            T

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            • T Tommas

              @gohan

              On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

              I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

              Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

              Thanks,
              T

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              @Tommas
              The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

              But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

              Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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              • rejoe2R rejoe2

                @Tommas
                The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

                But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

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                Tommas
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                @rejoe2

                Hi rejoe2!

                What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                Best regards
                T

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                  Get some easy pcb instead or other similar solution 😀

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                  • T Tommas

                    @rejoe2

                    Hi rejoe2!

                    What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                    I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                    Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                    https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                    Best regards
                    T

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                    @Tommas
                    I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                    For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                    Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

                    Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                    • rejoe2R rejoe2

                      @Tommas
                      I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                      For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                      Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

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                      @rejoe2

                      Thanks for the suggestions.
                      Had you got problems with nrf24?
                      Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                      Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                      I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                      Best regards
                      T

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                      • T Tommas

                        @rejoe2

                        Thanks for the suggestions.
                        Had you got problems with nrf24?
                        Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                        Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                        I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                        Best regards
                        T

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                        @Tommas
                        I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                        FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

                        Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                        • rejoe2R rejoe2

                          @Tommas
                          I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                          FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

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                          @rejoe2

                          I see. I hope, i can use it for a while:).
                          I think im closed this topic. The solution was to change the nrf24 modules, because i could not pair them.
                          The anoother problem was that i use two power source, and i didnt common the GND.

                          Thank you everyone who helped to me!

                          (I run into another problem, if you had some free time:) openhab-mysensors-ethernet-gateway-value-missing

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                            trasrik
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                            Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

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                            Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                            Thanks and best regards,
                            Joachim

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                              Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

                              alt text

                              Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                              Thanks and best regards,
                              Joachim

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                              Tommas
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                              @trasrik

                              I havent had got blob one yet so i havent got experience with it. But i red about the blob version and it should work....
                              But I suggest to you that you should buy these from reliable brand/shop. I think Itead or keyestudio are reliable brands. And i bought a pair nrf24 from ebyte, but it hasnt arrived yet.

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                                Yes, those are rubbish. I lost countless hours trying to get them working but without success

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                                  Newzwaver
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                                  Ok, spent half the day trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and all I had to do was read the forum. The radios I purchase were junk. Not one of the 10 worked. Had everything placed on a board figured my workmanship was a little off or something. The radio was last to be checked.
                                  WOOOOOOWWWWO

                                  Thanks Everyone this post saved me a lot more time.

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