Newbie PCB and battery on RAW Voltage measurement

[peerv]

Re: Easy/Newbie PCB for MySensors
I am building my first Newbie PCB sensor. I am powering with 9V battery on RAW and let the onboard pro mini regulator supply 5V. I am not using a booster.
I would like to use the battery measurer voltage divider. I recalculated the resistor values to 5M/680K.
Looking at the schematic of Newbie PCB I see that when the BAT and REG jumpers are NOT connected and also the REG power input is NOT connected I could use the unused booster pin 1 as input for the Voltage divider.
I would think when jumpering the RAW pin to the not used pin 1 (Vin) of the booster connection I could measure my RAW battery voltage.
Just looking for confirmation.
Thanks

[gohan]

@peerv you can use the booster pin to read the battery voltage or the proto board area. May I ask why are you going to make a battery powered 5v node? That is going to drain battery quite quickly.

[sundberg84]

@peerv

drain battery quite quickly

and 9V isnt a very good choice as well.

the problem is that most Arduino boards use a linear regulator to drop that 9V to 5V. If you are drawing a mere 50mA, 0.2W is being burnt in this linear regulator with 0.25W being used by the Arduno itself. This is very inefficient!

An alkaline 9V PP3 has a capacity of between 500 and 600mAh. This really isn’t very high – a typical alkaline AA battery will be at least 2000mAh. 6 series AA cells will provide the same voltage, but a capacity at least 4 times the size!

From: https://cybergibbons.com/uncategorized/arduino-misconceptions-6-a-9v-battery-is-a-good-power-source/

I have tried it myself - will never do it again. And that was with a 3.3v pro mini.

BAT and REG jumpers are NOT connected

These jumpers are made for different applications. Using RAW as source you should not bridge/connect any of these. The current will flow from RAW (in) to arduino RAW where it will be converted to 5v. You then need a second voltage regulator for the radio 3.3v.

I would think when jumpering the RAW pin to the not used pin 1 (Vin)

This would add a second application and VCC to your pcb. I would take @gohan advice.

[peerv]

@gohan I am using the sonar distance sensor to measure water level.
The measurement is only taking once every minute.
So the sensor is sleeping most of the time.
To save power I power the sonar from a digital pin.
Before going to sleep I switch off the sonar.
In sleep mode my sensor draws only 200 micro amps!
Thanks @gohan for the link tip.
I will see how long the battery last in this application.

[gohan]

200 uA is not very low, usually you should aim at 10 or less, so there has to be something that is drawing excessive standby current

[peerv]

@gohan I managed to get it down to 40 microamp in sleep mode now.
I also read somewhere to set all unused pins to INPUT.
I am going to try that too.

[sundberg84]

@peerv - 40uA is what I aim with a Pro Mini 3.3v, sensor, radio and EasyPCB. Should last you a long time! GOod work.!