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Using a sensor to sense the presence of copper wire.

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  • ? A Former User

    Please see attached image:

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    @moparjay
    How about a pressure switch .
    I must be missing something here, what is the end point ?

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      How about a pressure switch .

      If you are referring to a pressure switch for the wire to apply the pressure, the wire will be as small as a human hair. Not capable of applying pressure.

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      • ? A Former User

        How about a pressure switch .

        If you are referring to a pressure switch for the wire to apply the pressure, the wire will be as small as a human hair. Not capable of applying pressure.

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        @moparjay
        have you thought about using a jfet?

        see here for a google search

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          What about something like this:
          https://www.keyence.com/products/sensor/proximity/ta/models/th-305/index.jsp

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            It looks interesting, but I haven't seen if it may work with copper too

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              @moparjay
              have you thought about using a jfet?

              see here for a google search

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              have you thought about using a jfet?

              Thanks for the info. But I'm fine with the simplicity of a momentary, if full-automation-clamping is too difficult...or expensive. LOL

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                have you thought about using a jfet?

                Thanks for the info. But I'm fine with the simplicity of a momentary, if full-automation-clamping is too difficult...or expensive. LOL

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                @moparjay
                what about when sliding the wire into the top hole you give it a + charge and the base a - charge with a circuit that will do when the 2 touch.

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                  @moparjay
                  what about when sliding the wire into the top hole you give it a + charge and the base a - charge with a circuit that will do when the 2 touch.

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                  what about when sliding the wire into the top hole you give it a + charge and the base a - charge with a circuit that will do when the 2 touch.

                  If the range of wire size was tighter, this would probably work well. But with the wide range of sizes, trying to make contact with the smallest sizes would be a real pain.

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                  • ? A Former User

                    what about when sliding the wire into the top hole you give it a + charge and the base a - charge with a circuit that will do when the 2 touch.

                    If the range of wire size was tighter, this would probably work well. But with the wide range of sizes, trying to make contact with the smallest sizes would be a real pain.

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                    @moparjay
                    how about an "S" shape input tube any size would have to touch the tube on the inside the "S" shape tube can be any size you like.

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                      1. Optical detection: a light source on one side of the hole and a phototransistor on the other, read as analog values since the small wires won't completely cover the light source

                      2. Inductive sensor, a coil around the hole, and some form of detecting the change of inductance, start by making a small coil and test with a LCR meter

                      3. Capacitive sensor, open air dielectric, plates across the hole, the wire and operator (even holding the insulated wire) will change the capacitor response a lot, test with some capacitive/touch sensing circuitry.

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                        Thanks to all that have given input. I'm going to give in and simply use the momentary to open the cylinder (normally closed). It's just too easy. And going automated is not worth the added expense, as this single cylinder prototype will be duplicated to almost (100) cylinders....each completely independent from one another. Thank you!!!

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