Messages drop, messed topology?

[Sergio Rius]

I'm trying to improve my nrf24 network range, that currently is worse than shit (in good manners) and I'm having really strange issues that I think could not be related to radio power.
For testing I have an esp8266 gateway (pa+lna,isolated+dedicated power), a custom power meter on steroids (regular nrf, good dedicated power) that has been connected for months and then one board that I wanted to use for a met station (regular nrf & phone batt powered, design from oh.io).
I'm using the 108 channel to avoid interference from some time ago and before I could not make work anything.
The power node is at clear sight at, say 7 meters. Gw at the ceiling of a "balcony" second floor, PwMeter in a wall at the lower floor. was working with no problems.
The met station I can't separate to a meter from the gw that it doesn't sync. I tried swapping radios, isolation and antenna mods without success. Other nodes seemed to have similar problems. Even my garage door controller that runs a good power source and pa+lna It can't communicate only through a floor.
That's one problem.

So I thought of using a mysRGBW node as a repeater for the met station and I put it on the next room. Then the met.station linked, but the power meter not. So I powered all down and removed the new aggregations and left gw+power.meter. Now it seems like pm tries to register to the network, but the gw it's loosing messages. Looses half of the presentation and then the node halts. When it succeeds, it regularly misses some SET messages. I realized that it survives the presentation when domoticz is not started and those hearbeat messages are not around.
What those things can be caused?

[Yveaux]

@sergio-rius said in Messages drop, messed topology?:

I'm using the 108 channel

I personally have bad experience with channels above say 100, on some clones.
I would advise you to stay below 100.

A bad performing radio is worse than some WiFi interference.

[Sergio Rius]

@yveaux Thanks! Good point. I'll first give another go to the scanner and try with a lower channel.

[Sergio Rius]

If anyone is interested, that was my channel scan when I decided to migrate to 108

Starting Poor Man's Wireless 2.4GHz Scanner ...

Channel Layout
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|   +RRWRRWRWRWRWWWWWW+.                                                      ....                                             | 27
|   WWWWRWWWWRWRWWRWWW                                           ..      .........                                             | 26
|  .RWWWRWWWWWWRWRWWRW*                           .                      .......                                               | 26
|   +RRWWWRWWWWWWRWWWW*.                                                 .......                                               | 27
| ...RWRWRaRRWRWRRWRRRR..                                                      ...                                             | 29
|   aWWRWRWRRWRWRWWWWR-                                                 .....                                                  | 26
|   =WWWWWWRWWWWRWRWRWR                                                  ......                                                | 26
|   RWRWRWWWWRWRWWWWRW.                                                   . ......                                             | 27
|   *aRRRWRWRWRRWRWRWW-.                                                     ....                                              | 28
|...RWWRWRWRRWRWRWRRWRW..  .                                                 .....                                             | 29
|   WWRWRWWWWRWRWWRWRWW                                                 .........                                              | 26
|   WRWWWWRWRWWRWRWRRRa  .                                                   .....                                             | 27
|   RWRRWRWRWWWWRWWWWRW     .                                                .....                                             | 27
|   RWRWRWRRWRWRWRRWRWR.. .                                                      .                                             | 27
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|...WRWWRWRWRWWRWRWRWRR...                                               .........                                             | 29
|   RWRRRRWRWRRWRWRWRWW                                                  ...                                                   | 27
|   WRWWRWRWRRRRWRWRRWR                                                  .......                                               | 28
|   RWWRWRWRRWRWRWRRWRW                                                  ..   ....                                             | 27
|   RRRWRWRRWRWRWRRWRWR                                                  .........                                             | 28
|...*aWaWRWWRWaWRWWRWaa.. .                                              ....                                                  | 31
|   aWRWRRRRWRWRRWRWRWa    ..                                           ..........                                             | 27
|   WRWRWWRWRWRRWRWRWRR                                                 ..........                                             | 27
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|   WRWWRWRWWWWRWRWWRWR.                                                 ..   ....                                             | 27
|...RWRRWaWRWRRWRWWWWRW... ..                                           ....    ..                                             | 30
|   WRRRRWRWRRWRWRWWRWR                                                  .........                                             | 27
|   RWWRWRWRRWaWRWRRWRW                                                 .. ....                                                | 27
|   WWRWRWRRWRWRWRRRaWa                                                  .........                                             | 28
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| ..RRWRWRRWRRaRaaWRRRR  .               .  .. .. .. ... ...   .  .  .. ... .. ...                                             | 29
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|  .RRaRaWaRRaWRWRRWRWR                                                        ...                                             | 28
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|   WWRWRWRRRRWRWRRWRWR                                                 ...                                                    | 27
|   RRWRWRWRRWRWRRRaWRW                                                     ......                                             | 28
|   WRRWRWRWRRWRWRWWRWR                                                     ......                                             | 27
| . RRRaWaWRRRaWRWRRWRW                                                                                                        | 28
|   WWRWRWRWRRWRWRWWRW* ..                                                .......                                              | 27
|   RWRRWRWRRRRWRWRRRR- .                                                ..    ...                                             | 28
|   WRRWRWRWRRWRWRRRaR                                                      ......                                             | 28
|   +RRRWaWRRRRWRWRRRa- .     .                                          ........                                              | 28
|   +RWRRWRWRRWRWRWWaa.                                                  ..                                                    | 28
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|   aaRaWRWRaWRWRWRRWRW.                                                 .... ....                                             | 28
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|  .WRWRRWRWRWRRWRWRRWaa  .                                                 ...                                                | 28
|   aWRWRRWRWRWRRWaWRRRa                                                .     ....                                             | 28
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|   RRRWRWaaRaWRWRRWRWRa      .  .                                       .........                                             | 28
|   RRWRWRWRRRaWRRRaWRW.                                                    ......                                             | 27
|.. WRRWRWRWRaWaWRRRaWa.                                                                                                       | 28
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|   RRWRWRWWRWRWRRWRWR .                                                     ....                                              | 27
|   RWRWRWRRRaWRRRaRaW.                                                 .......                                                | 28
|   aRRRWRWRRWRWRWWRWRa..                                                .......                                               | 28
|   aaaRaWRRRRWRWWWWaW=.                    ..                          ......  ..                                             | 29
|   aWWRWRWRRRaWRWRRWa=.                         .                      ..                                                     | 30
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|   aWaRRaRRWRRRRWRWRRW  .                                               ..                                                    | 28
|   WRWRRRaRaWRRWRWRWRR                                                 .........                                              | 28
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|   RRWRWRRWRWRWWRWRWR+                                                     ......                                             | 27
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|   *WRWRRWaWRWRRWRRRR+.   .                                                .......                                            | 29
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|   RWRRWRWRWRRWRWRRWRW  ..                                                    ...                                             | 26
|   WRRWRWRWRRRaWRRRaWa.                                                     .....                                             | 29
|  .aWRRWRWRWRRWRWRWWRW+                 .. .                                 ..                                               | 27
|  .*aa*a*a**a*a*aaaaaaa      . ...........::-++WWWWRaa=:.               .. ....   ...... ... .......                          | 37
|. .*a*aa*a*aaaaaRaaa*Ra    ..............:-*RWWR*=:..                           ..    .........:-:::..                        | 33
|  .RWRWWRWRRRRRRWRWWRWR .  ..............::-+aRWW*+--::.                    ... .        ...........                          | 27
|  .WRWRWRaRaWRRaaRaRaRR                                                                                                       | 29
|  -RWRWRWWRWRWRRWRWRWRR                                                  . ...                                                | 27
|  -RWWWWRWRWWWWWWRWWRWW.......:.::........-++a+=-:....                     ......   ..... ..::=*+-.                           | 27
|  :****a*a*a*aa*aaaa*Ra   ..............::=+aRWWa*=:...                     ..    .... .......                                | 35
|  :RWRWWRWRWRWWRWRWRRWR..... .......:....::--:=----::...     .  ...........::::-..:....::.                                    | 27
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| .-WaWRWRaWRWRWWaWRWRRW     .                                              ....                                               | 28
|  -WWRWRWRRWRWRRWRWRWRR                                                                                                       | 27
|   RRWRWRRWRWRWWRWRWRR.                                                    .....                                              | 27
| ..RRaWRWRRWRWWWWRWRWR-.                                                   ...                                                | 30
|  .aaWaWRRRRWRWWWWRWRW-...                                                                                                    | 30
|   RRaRaRaRRaWaRRRRRWRa                                                  ......                                               | 29
| ..*WWRWRWRRWRWRWWRWRW.                                                        .                                              | 27
|  .=RRWaWRRRaWaRRRRRWa                                                       ..                                               | 28
|   -RWRWRWRRWRWRRRaWRR                                                    ....                                                | 28
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|   aWRWRWRRRRWRWRRWRWW+..     .                                          .....                                                | 27
| . aWWRWRWWRWRWRRRRWRW-                                  .                ......                                              | 27
|   RRRWRWRWWRWRWRRRaWa=                                                   .    .                                              | 28
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|   =RWRWRWWRWRWRRRRWRR:...                                               . ...                                                | 28
|   RRRWRWWRWRWRWRRWaWR-                      .                           ......                                               | 28
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|   aRaRaWRRRaWRWRRWRWR.                                                    .....                                              | 28
|   *WWRWRWRRWRWRWWRWRW.       .                                                                                               | 26
|  .*RRWRWWRRRWRWRRWaWR*.        .                                          .                                                  | 28
|   =WWRWRWRWWRWRWRRWRW.       ..                                                                                              | 27
|  .*aaRaWaRRaRaWRRRRWR..                                                 .....                                                | 29
|  .aWRRRaWRWRRWRWRWWRWR      .                                                                                                | 28
|  .aRWWRWRWRWRRWRWRRWa=                                                  . ....                                               | 27
|  .-RRWWRWRWWWWRWRWR==:                                                                                                       | 27
|  .RaWRRRaWRWRaRaWRRR*-                                                  ....                                                 | 29
|   RWRWRRWRWWWWRWRWWWW:                                                    ....                                               | 27
|  :RaRaWRaWaWRRRaWRWRRa                                                    .....                                              | 28
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|..RaWRWRRRaWRRRaWaWRRRa                                                   ....                                                | 29
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| .:aWRWRaRRWRWaaWRRRRRR.  .               .  .. .. .. .. .. ..  :  .. .. ..  ..  .                                            | 30
|  +RaWRWRWRRWRWRRWRWRWR                          ..                      ......                                               | 28
| ..WRRWaWRWRRWRWRWWRWRW                                                    .....                                              | 28
|  .RWRRRRWRWRRWRWRWWRWa         .                                              .                                              | 27
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|  -aWRWRWRaWRWRRRRWRRa+                                                  .....                                                | 28
|  -RRWRWRWWRWRWRWRRWaWR                                                 ..                                                    | 28
|..-WRWWRWRWRRRRWRWRRWRR                                                  ....                                                 | 28
|  -RWRWRaWRWRWRRWRWRWWR                                                  .     .                                              | 27
|  =RRWRWRRRRWRWRRRRWRWR                                                  ....                                                 | 27
|  -WRRWRWRRRRWRWRaWaWRR                              .                  ... .....                                             | 28
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|  :RRWRWRWRaRaWRWRRWRWR                                                 ........                                              | 28
|. .WRRWRWRWRRWRWRWRaWaW                                                 ......                                                | 28
|  -RWRWWRWRWRWWRWRWRaWa.                                                ........                                              | 28
|  .RaWaWRaRaWRWRRWRWRRR.                                              .........                                               | 28
| .:WRaWaWRRRaWRWRRWRWRW   ..                                        .                                                         | 28
|  -RWRRWRWRRRRWRWRRWRWR                                          .     . .......                                              | 27
|...WRWRRWRWRWaaWaRaRRaR..                                               ..                                                    | 31
|  :aWRWRWRRWRWRRRRWRWRa                               .                       ..                                              | 28
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| ..RWRWRRWRWRWRaWRWRWR=   ..                                                   ..                                             | 27
|...WRWRWRWRaWaRaaRaRaR    ..   ...                                            ....                                            | 30
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| .:RWRRRRWRWRRWRWRWRRWa. ..                                                ......                                             | 28
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|   -*RRWRWRWWRWRWRRRa=.                                                    .......                                            | 27
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|  :aWRWRaWaRRWRRWRWRWW*   .                                    ..    .. ..                                                    | 28
|  :WRWRWWRRaWRWRRWRWRWW                                                       ..                                              | 27
|  *WRRWRWRWRRWRWRRWRWRR                                                                                                       | 28
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|  -*RaWRRaaWRWRRRaWRWWR....:...:::.:::-::::::.:::...::::::.::::::...............   ......  .......... ........ ...... .    . .| 30
|. =aWRRRRWRWRRWRWRRRWWR... .::..:.............            . ......        .........                                           | 30
|..-aRWRWaWRRWRWRRRRWaWW..  .                                                 ...                                              | 33
|..:aRWWWWWRRWWWRRWRWRRa.....:.::....:::...::::..::::::...:::..............                                                    | 34
| ..RWWWWRWRWRRWRWWWWRWa.......................                .. ... ..     ...         .....                                 | 29
|...RaWRWWWRRWRWRRWaWRW+... ............  ... ..    ....            ..      ...                                                | 31
|.. WRWRaWRWRRWRWRWRRWR.                                                     ....                                              | 28
| ..RRRWWWWWWWWRWRWWWWR....::::...:----:...::::................ ....... ........                                               | 30
| ..RWRWRRRaWaWRRRaWaRR.  .                                               ......                                               | 28
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And that's the worse I get today:

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|                             .  aRaRRRWRWaa ..                                                                                | 28
|                               .RRaRWWWWRRR                                                                                   | 26
|                                WRWWWWWRWWW   .                                                                               | 25
|                                RRWWWWRRRWR                                                                                   | 24
|                                :WWWWRRRWWW                                                                                   | 25
|                             ....WWWRWRRWWa .                                                                                 | 25
|                                :WWWWRWWWW-                                                                                   | 27
|                                +WWWRWWWWWR                                                                                   | 25
|                                WWRRRWWWWRR  .                                                           ..                   | 25
|                            ....aWRWRWRRRRR....                                                                               | 26
|                            ..:.RWRRWWWWRRW.:..                                                                               | 30
|   ...     . ...   .....    :...+WRRRRaRWWW....     ...     ..   ..   ..   ..                                                 | 29
|                            :...WWWWRaaRRaW-:..     ..                                                                        | 32
|                                RWWRRRRRWWR                                                                                   | 27

I'm using a new device so still I may have something to adjust in the scanner as I don't get the band being so clean. I've changed the old wifi AP for an ubiquity thou.