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  • dbemowskD Offline
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    dbemowsk
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    #29

    I had tried a 9 volt when I was building my temp/humidity sensor node and the battery didn't last for crap. At that time I was using a DHT22 with a 5 volt pro mini. I have since switched to an HDC1080 and a 3.3 volt pro mini with 2 AA batteries and it works GREAT. Here is the project if anyone wants to look.
    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6485/hdc1080-battery-operated-temp-humidity-sensor-with-wall-box

    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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    • dbemowskD dbemowsk

      I am curious what kind of battery life you are getting with the 9 volt battery? I tried a sensor with a 9 volt battery and the useful battery duration was less than ideal.

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      @dbemowsk By cutting the LEDs off, I am getting 12 to 16 weeks.

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      • J jtm312

        @dbemowsk By cutting the LEDs off, I am getting 12 to 16 weeks.

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        #31

        @jtm312 I don't recall exactly how much I was getting on mine, but I don't think it was that much. Are you using 3.3 or 5 volt pro minis?

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        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

          @jtm312 I don't recall exactly how much I was getting on mine, but I don't think it was that much. Are you using 3.3 or 5 volt pro minis?

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          #32

          @dbemowsk I am using the 3.3V pro minis. It is the one pictured at the top of this thread. I started out by getting about a week. The big difference came after removing the LEDs, as they were using most of the power. Also sleeping most of the time.

          A good quality 9v also helped. Other humidity sensors can also cut the power drain.

          I have also built version using 2xAAA batteries, but I find that it doesn't take long before the voltages drops below the useful voltage for the radio and starts to cause a range problem. The next version I am planning on going back to using the onboard regulator with 4xAA batteries.

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            @dbemowsk I am using the 3.3V pro minis. It is the one pictured at the top of this thread. I started out by getting about a week. The big difference came after removing the LEDs, as they were using most of the power. Also sleeping most of the time.

            A good quality 9v also helped. Other humidity sensors can also cut the power drain.

            I have also built version using 2xAAA batteries, but I find that it doesn't take long before the voltages drops below the useful voltage for the radio and starts to cause a range problem. The next version I am planning on going back to using the onboard regulator with 4xAA batteries.

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            @jtm312 I am using 2 AA's on my humidity sensor and that is working very well. The radios are rated I believe down to 1.9 volts. Using the regulator is going to give you more power drain on your batteries. When using 2 AA batteries, there is no need for the regulator at all. Many people say to disconnect it because it can still cause power drain. In my project I just didn't connect to the RAW pin, thus the regulator is not being used. So far I have not seen any issues with the regulator affecting anything.

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            • dbemowskD dbemowsk

              @jtm312 I am using 2 AA's on my humidity sensor and that is working very well. The radios are rated I believe down to 1.9 volts. Using the regulator is going to give you more power drain on your batteries. When using 2 AA batteries, there is no need for the regulator at all. Many people say to disconnect it because it can still cause power drain. In my project I just didn't connect to the RAW pin, thus the regulator is not being used. So far I have not seen any issues with the regulator affecting anything.

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              #34

              @dbemowsk The 2xbattery builds that I built didn't have the voltage regulator as you suggest. It was just a range problem as the voltage dropped. Moving it closer to the gateway everything was still working.

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                Yes NRF24 can run down to 1.9V. ATMega328 on the Arduino down to 2V. So problem is probably the BOD resetting below 2.7V.
                I advise to update bootloader to use a 1MHz version and remove BOD or set it to lower value. Using an arduino nano as a programmer (with ArduinoISP sketch) it is very easy.
                Then just use i2c sensors to allow low voltage and you just need to sleep all the time except a fraction of a second at every measurement. With that you get years of battery life.
                I use CR2032 for door and temp/hum/light sensors and my oldest sensor on my entrance door is nearly one year old and voltage of battery is less than 0.1V down, on a chinese low quality cell.

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                  Yes NRF24 can run down to 1.9V. ATMega328 on the Arduino down to 2V. So problem is probably the BOD resetting below 2.7V.
                  I advise to update bootloader to use a 1MHz version and remove BOD or set it to lower value. Using an arduino nano as a programmer (with ArduinoISP sketch) it is very easy.
                  Then just use i2c sensors to allow low voltage and you just need to sleep all the time except a fraction of a second at every measurement. With that you get years of battery life.
                  I use CR2032 for door and temp/hum/light sensors and my oldest sensor on my entrance door is nearly one year old and voltage of battery is less than 0.1V down, on a chinese low quality cell.

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                  @Nca78 would this setup work with the rfm69 radio?

                  MyController with USB powered WeMos D1/mini ESP8266 MQTT Gateways and battery powered Arduino Pro Mini using the RFM69 radio

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                  • mppM mpp

                    @Nca78 would this setup work with the rfm69 radio?

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                    Nca78
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                    @mpp yes it does.
                    But it's using much more power in TX mode so you need good reserve capacitors and also to minimize the sending time. For that it's better to run at 8MHz with the RFM.

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                      Supply voltage for rfm69 is 1.8V-2.4V 17dBm or 2.4V- 3.6V 20dBm (from datasheet)

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                      • gohanG gohan

                        Supply voltage for rfm69 is 1.8V-2.4V 17dBm or 2.4V- 3.6V 20dBm (from datasheet)

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                        #39

                        @gohan so I'd need a 3.6v battery, I'm considering the BME280 or the HTU21d sensor.

                        MyController with USB powered WeMos D1/mini ESP8266 MQTT Gateways and battery powered Arduino Pro Mini using the RFM69 radio

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                          it depends if you want the high power version or use the standard rfm69w at 17dBm and you will be fine to use it down to 1.8V (of course it will work also a little over 3.3V too)

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                          • gohanG gohan

                            it depends if you want the high power version or use the standard rfm69w at 17dBm and you will be fine to use it down to 1.8V (of course it will work also a little over 3.3V too)

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                            @gohan I have a bunch of HW

                            MyController with USB powered WeMos D1/mini ESP8266 MQTT Gateways and battery powered Arduino Pro Mini using the RFM69 radio

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                              Great device. Why not use a solar power station, like in a solar garden light. Not very good at power equations. What else you going to hook to this? rain gauge, wind speed .... Thanks

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