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    MikeF
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    I've now uploaded an external view - see my earlier post.

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      If you at some point redesign the nice looking weather station, I recommend:
      1)To place the battery in the top, to avoid battery corrosion
      2) Make a little hole in bottom for water condensation trip out hole

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      • bjacobseB bjacobse

        If you at some point redesign the nice looking weather station, I recommend:
        1)To place the battery in the top, to avoid battery corrosion
        2) Make a little hole in bottom for water condensation trip out hole

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        cadet
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        @bjacobse
        Hi
        anybody compile code for this station for 2.0 Mysensors ?
        Share the code please.
        Pro mini used 5volt ver ?
        I can't power 3 volt ver from 9 volt ? Correct ?
        Thank you
        Andrey

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          gohan
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          You can use any voltage as far as you use the right voltage regulator

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            The pro minis have an onboard voltage regulator (raw input). The specs say that they are good for up to 12v for either the 5v or 3.3v version. I used a 3.3v version as it made the rest of the interface easier.

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            • J jtm312

              The pro minis have an onboard voltage regulator (raw input). The specs say that they are good for up to 12v for either the 5v or 3.3v version. I used a 3.3v version as it made the rest of the interface easier.

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              cadet
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              @jtm312
              Just try to connect Pro Mini 3volt to 9 volt GND and RAW - voltage regulator very hot - I think 60-80 C

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                dbemowsk
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                I am curious what kind of battery life you are getting with the 9 volt battery? I tried a sensor with a 9 volt battery and the useful battery duration was less than ideal.

                Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                  I am curious what kind of battery life you are getting with the 9 volt battery? I tried a sensor with a 9 volt battery and the useful battery duration was less than ideal.

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                  Nca78
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                  @dbemowsk said in Mini Weather Station:

                  I am curious what kind of battery life you are getting with the 9 volt battery? I tried a sensor with a 9 volt battery and the useful battery duration was less than ideal.

                  Typical capacity is around 550mAh for alcaline version. All extra voltage is wasted in the linear regulator so you end up with less than half the capacity of 2 AAA or about 20% of the capacity of 2 AA. Not a good choice imho, better switch to i2c sensors like si7021 or BME280 like MikeF did to have much lower power consumption and much lower voltage requirements and use 2 AAA. And the lower the voltage is, the lower the current consumption is for Arduino, radio and sensor so in the end instead of having 4 months of battery life you can get 2 or 3 years with 2 AAA.

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                    I had tried a 9 volt when I was building my temp/humidity sensor node and the battery didn't last for crap. At that time I was using a DHT22 with a 5 volt pro mini. I have since switched to an HDC1080 and a 3.3 volt pro mini with 2 AA batteries and it works GREAT. Here is the project if anyone wants to look.
                    https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6485/hdc1080-battery-operated-temp-humidity-sensor-with-wall-box

                    Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
                    Visit my website for more Bits, Bytes and Ramblings from me: http://dan.bemowski.info/

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                    • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                      I am curious what kind of battery life you are getting with the 9 volt battery? I tried a sensor with a 9 volt battery and the useful battery duration was less than ideal.

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                      @dbemowsk By cutting the LEDs off, I am getting 12 to 16 weeks.

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                      • J jtm312

                        @dbemowsk By cutting the LEDs off, I am getting 12 to 16 weeks.

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                        @jtm312 I don't recall exactly how much I was getting on mine, but I don't think it was that much. Are you using 3.3 or 5 volt pro minis?

                        Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                        • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                          @jtm312 I don't recall exactly how much I was getting on mine, but I don't think it was that much. Are you using 3.3 or 5 volt pro minis?

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                          @dbemowsk I am using the 3.3V pro minis. It is the one pictured at the top of this thread. I started out by getting about a week. The big difference came after removing the LEDs, as they were using most of the power. Also sleeping most of the time.

                          A good quality 9v also helped. Other humidity sensors can also cut the power drain.

                          I have also built version using 2xAAA batteries, but I find that it doesn't take long before the voltages drops below the useful voltage for the radio and starts to cause a range problem. The next version I am planning on going back to using the onboard regulator with 4xAA batteries.

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                            @dbemowsk I am using the 3.3V pro minis. It is the one pictured at the top of this thread. I started out by getting about a week. The big difference came after removing the LEDs, as they were using most of the power. Also sleeping most of the time.

                            A good quality 9v also helped. Other humidity sensors can also cut the power drain.

                            I have also built version using 2xAAA batteries, but I find that it doesn't take long before the voltages drops below the useful voltage for the radio and starts to cause a range problem. The next version I am planning on going back to using the onboard regulator with 4xAA batteries.

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                            @jtm312 I am using 2 AA's on my humidity sensor and that is working very well. The radios are rated I believe down to 1.9 volts. Using the regulator is going to give you more power drain on your batteries. When using 2 AA batteries, there is no need for the regulator at all. Many people say to disconnect it because it can still cause power drain. In my project I just didn't connect to the RAW pin, thus the regulator is not being used. So far I have not seen any issues with the regulator affecting anything.

                            Vera Plus running UI7 with MySensors, Sonoffs and 1-Wire devices
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                              @jtm312 I am using 2 AA's on my humidity sensor and that is working very well. The radios are rated I believe down to 1.9 volts. Using the regulator is going to give you more power drain on your batteries. When using 2 AA batteries, there is no need for the regulator at all. Many people say to disconnect it because it can still cause power drain. In my project I just didn't connect to the RAW pin, thus the regulator is not being used. So far I have not seen any issues with the regulator affecting anything.

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                              @dbemowsk The 2xbattery builds that I built didn't have the voltage regulator as you suggest. It was just a range problem as the voltage dropped. Moving it closer to the gateway everything was still working.

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                                Nca78
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                                Yes NRF24 can run down to 1.9V. ATMega328 on the Arduino down to 2V. So problem is probably the BOD resetting below 2.7V.
                                I advise to update bootloader to use a 1MHz version and remove BOD or set it to lower value. Using an arduino nano as a programmer (with ArduinoISP sketch) it is very easy.
                                Then just use i2c sensors to allow low voltage and you just need to sleep all the time except a fraction of a second at every measurement. With that you get years of battery life.
                                I use CR2032 for door and temp/hum/light sensors and my oldest sensor on my entrance door is nearly one year old and voltage of battery is less than 0.1V down, on a chinese low quality cell.

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                                  Yes NRF24 can run down to 1.9V. ATMega328 on the Arduino down to 2V. So problem is probably the BOD resetting below 2.7V.
                                  I advise to update bootloader to use a 1MHz version and remove BOD or set it to lower value. Using an arduino nano as a programmer (with ArduinoISP sketch) it is very easy.
                                  Then just use i2c sensors to allow low voltage and you just need to sleep all the time except a fraction of a second at every measurement. With that you get years of battery life.
                                  I use CR2032 for door and temp/hum/light sensors and my oldest sensor on my entrance door is nearly one year old and voltage of battery is less than 0.1V down, on a chinese low quality cell.

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                                  mpp
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                                  @Nca78 would this setup work with the rfm69 radio?

                                  MyController with USB powered WeMos D1/mini ESP8266 MQTT Gateways and battery powered Arduino Pro Mini using the RFM69 radio

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                                    @Nca78 would this setup work with the rfm69 radio?

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                                    @mpp yes it does.
                                    But it's using much more power in TX mode so you need good reserve capacitors and also to minimize the sending time. For that it's better to run at 8MHz with the RFM.

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                                      gohan
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                                      Supply voltage for rfm69 is 1.8V-2.4V 17dBm or 2.4V- 3.6V 20dBm (from datasheet)

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                                        Supply voltage for rfm69 is 1.8V-2.4V 17dBm or 2.4V- 3.6V 20dBm (from datasheet)

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                                        @gohan so I'd need a 3.6v battery, I'm considering the BME280 or the HTU21d sensor.

                                        MyController with USB powered WeMos D1/mini ESP8266 MQTT Gateways and battery powered Arduino Pro Mini using the RFM69 radio

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                                          it depends if you want the high power version or use the standard rfm69w at 17dBm and you will be fine to use it down to 1.8V (of course it will work also a little over 3.3V too)

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