Skip to content
  • MySensors
  • OpenHardware.io
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo
  1. Home
  2. Announcements
  3. Sensebender Micro

Sensebender Micro

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Announcements
584 Posts 84 Posters 401.8k Views 35 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • ximinezX ximinez

    Yeah, I'm struggling a bit with those instructions. I've set up my gateway with soft signing, and got sane values written to EEPROM.
    Now, do I need any of the three values to personalize the sensebender?
    SOFT_HMAC_KEY?

    AnticimexA Offline
    AnticimexA Offline
    Anticimex
    Contest Winner
    wrote on last edited by
    #420

    @ximinez the SenseBender you have patched/cut needs atsha personalization, so no SOFT anything. But you need to have the same hmac key stored on the atsha on the SenseBender as you have picked as soft hmac key in eeprom of your gateway (the node you have personalized for soft signing).

    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

    ximinezX 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • AnticimexA Anticimex

      @ximinez the SenseBender you have patched/cut needs atsha personalization, so no SOFT anything. But you need to have the same hmac key stored on the atsha on the SenseBender as you have picked as soft hmac key in eeprom of your gateway (the node you have personalized for soft signing).

      ximinezX Offline
      ximinezX Offline
      ximinez
      wrote on last edited by
      #421

      @Anticimex Yeah, that's what I asked ;)

      I get:
      Writing key to slot 0...
      Data lock failed. Response: D3

      AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • ximinezX ximinez

        @Anticimex Yeah, that's what I asked ;)

        I get:
        Writing key to slot 0...
        Data lock failed. Response: D3

        AnticimexA Offline
        AnticimexA Offline
        Anticimex
        Contest Winner
        wrote on last edited by
        #422

        @ximinez locking data is a very bad idea. It will prevent you from changing the hmac key. You only need to (and should) lock configuration. Only lock data if you really know what you are doing.

        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • ximinezX Offline
          ximinezX Offline
          ximinez
          wrote on last edited by
          #423

          Writing key to slot 0...
          Data not locked. Define LOCK_DATA to lock for real.

          Personalization is now complete.
          Configuration is LOCKED
          Data is UNLOCKED

          AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • ximinezX ximinez

            Writing key to slot 0...
            Data not locked. Define LOCK_DATA to lock for real.

            Personalization is now complete.
            Configuration is LOCKED
            Data is UNLOCKED

            AnticimexA Offline
            AnticimexA Offline
            Anticimex
            Contest Winner
            wrote on last edited by
            #424

            @ximinez looks good. You should be done with personalization. Remember to require signatures from the SenseBender in addition to "enabling" it. You can also require signature on the GW, thus forcing all communications between them to be signed. The serial console will reveal how it goes. You can enable verbose debug (MY_DEBUG_VERBOSE_SIGNING) for the signing if you want more details on the signing parts.

            Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • ximinezX Offline
              ximinezX Offline
              ximinez
              wrote on last edited by
              #425

              I have the sensor sketch mostly done, but I'll have to do some soldering again tomorrow. It looks like D7 got burnt when I plugged in my ESP8266, giving ~0,5v out on that pin. Will have to work around that:

              Sôártinç óensor (RÎONA-, 2.0.0-beta)
              Raäio init æáiìåd. Ãèeck wiring.

              When that is OK, I'll look at the GW sketch.

              AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • ximinezX ximinez

                I have the sensor sketch mostly done, but I'll have to do some soldering again tomorrow. It looks like D7 got burnt when I plugged in my ESP8266, giving ~0,5v out on that pin. Will have to work around that:

                Sôártinç óensor (RÎONA-, 2.0.0-beta)
                Raäio init æáiìåd. Ãèeck wiring.

                When that is OK, I'll look at the GW sketch.

                AnticimexA Offline
                AnticimexA Offline
                Anticimex
                Contest Winner
                wrote on last edited by
                #426

                Sounds good. Bedtime here too.

                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • ximinezX Offline
                  ximinezX Offline
                  ximinez
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #427

                  D3, D4 and D7 are all funky, and do not give ~3v when set high. So I'm back to the radio being on all the time.
                  D5 and D6 mysteriously work just fine.

                  Radio is now OK, but the sensebender reboots before it gets to setup().
                  Stárting óensor (ÒÎONA-, 2.0.0-beôá)
                  Ráäio init suããessæuì.
                  æéîä parenô
                  send: 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,óô=bc:
                  [reboot and repeat]

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • tbowmoT Offline
                    tbowmoT Offline
                    tbowmo
                    Admin
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #428

                    @ximinez

                    Sounds like it's on its way to the "other side"..

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • ximinezX Offline
                      ximinezX Offline
                      ximinez
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #429

                      Yup. Setting up my other sensebender as a proper signing sensor and my uno as a gateway. This will have to wait until I get a couple more working sensors.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • ximinezX Offline
                        ximinezX Offline
                        ximinez
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #430

                        Ok. I set up my GW, and set up my healthy sensebender as an outdoor sensor. The zombie sensor is now a working indoor sensor.
                        I have enabled signing and set up whitelisting, but enabling signing debugging makes the sketch oversize, so I can't actually check if signing works - but atleast now I have two sensors.

                        Domoticz up

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • AnticimexA Offline
                          AnticimexA Offline
                          Anticimex
                          Contest Winner
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #431

                          You will still be notified without verbose logging. And if you have enabled and require signing, you won't get any data if something fails (assuming signing is properly activated).

                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

                          ximinezX 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • user2334U user2334

                            I just received two Sensebenders, but have problems getting the device to consume little power. I get totally different values as displayed above.

                            With the following sketch, I get about 5,6mA in active state and 1,6mA in sleep mode with nRF24 attached. I have compared different nRF24-chips and this one consumed the least power.

                            Without the nRF24, I get 4mA and 0,025mA (=25µA) during sleep mode.

                            #include <LowPower.h>
                            #include "RF24.h"
                            
                            RF24 radio(9, 10);
                            
                            void setup() {
                            }
                            
                            void loop() {
                                delay(8000);
                                LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_8S, ADC_OFF, BOD_OFF);
                            }
                            
                            user2334U Offline
                            user2334U Offline
                            user2334
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #432

                            @user2334 said:

                            I just received two Sensebenders, but have problems getting the device to consume little power. I get totally different values as displayed above.

                            With the following sketch, I get about 5,6mA in active state and 1,6mA in sleep mode with nRF24 attached. I have compared different nRF24-chips and this one consumed the least power.

                            Without the nRF24, I get 4mA and 0,025mA (=25µA) during sleep mode.

                            #include <LowPower.h>
                            #include "RF24.h"
                            
                            RF24 radio(9, 10);
                            
                            void setup() {
                            }
                            
                            void loop() {
                                delay(8000);
                                LowPower.powerDown(SLEEP_8S, ADC_OFF, BOD_OFF);
                            }
                            

                            As a follow-up to my previous posting, I can confirm, that using original nRF24-modules (best source seems to be https://www.itead.cc/nrf24l01-module.html), I get 0,023mA (=23µA) with nrf24 attached during sleep mode (no difference between the libraries JeeLib->Sleepy::loseSomeTime or LowPower->LowPower.powerDown).

                            It is quite interesting, that so many nRF24 Modules (bought from eBay, from Amazon UK) are clones with higher power consumption. Some of them use 3mA, some have electrical short, ...

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • AnticimexA Anticimex

                              You will still be notified without verbose logging. And if you have enabled and require signing, you won't get any data if something fails (assuming signing is properly activated).

                              ximinezX Offline
                              ximinezX Offline
                              ximinez
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #433

                              @Anticimex I've set MY_SIGNING_SOFT, MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES and MY_SIGNING_NODE_WHITELIST on the GW, and reenabled (normal) debug but not signing debug since that is too big.
                              With those enabled, if the sending node does not sign, I should not get this?

                              0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:6.3
                              0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=2,l=2,sg=0:59

                              AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • ximinezX ximinez

                                @Anticimex I've set MY_SIGNING_SOFT, MY_SIGNING_REQUEST_SIGNATURES and MY_SIGNING_NODE_WHITELIST on the GW, and reenabled (normal) debug but not signing debug since that is too big.
                                With those enabled, if the sending node does not sign, I should not get this?

                                0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=1,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:6.3
                                0;255;3;0;9;read: 2-2-0 s=2,c=1,t=1,pt=2,l=2,sg=0:59

                                AnticimexA Offline
                                AnticimexA Offline
                                Anticimex
                                Contest Winner
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #434

                                @ximinez The GW will only require signatures from a node that in turn require signatures.
                                It is the sg-flag that indicate if a message is signed, in your case, both messages are unsigned.
                                If you only have node->gw communication, both gw and node has to require signatures for you to see signed messages.
                                If you have gw->node communication, it is enough that the node require signatures, the gw will then sign them, no matter if the gw require signatures or not.

                                Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • ximinezX Offline
                                  ximinezX Offline
                                  ximinez
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #435

                                  0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=1,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                                  0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=2,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                                  0;255;3;0;9;send: 0-0-3-3 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:57ACB4BD46843BFCC7ABA693CC5AA527F7724531F525338E8A
                                  0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=2,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:

                                  I feel more secure now :-P

                                  AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • ximinezX ximinez

                                    0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=1,c=0,t=6,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                                    0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=2,c=3,t=16,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
                                    0;255;3;0;9;send: 0-0-3-3 s=255,c=3,t=17,pt=6,l=25,sg=0,st=ok:57ACB4BD46843BFCC7ABA693CC5AA527F7724531F525338E8A
                                    0;255;3;0;9;read: 3-3-0 s=2,c=0,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:

                                    I feel more secure now :-P

                                    AnticimexA Offline
                                    AnticimexA Offline
                                    Anticimex
                                    Contest Winner
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #436

                                    @ximinez Hm, good, but I still see no signed message. But at least a nonce was sent

                                    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

                                    ximinezX 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                      @ximinez Hm, good, but I still see no signed message. But at least a nonce was sent

                                      ximinezX Offline
                                      ximinezX Offline
                                      ximinez
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #437

                                      @Anticimex Sensor values are getting through though. And signing is requested on both ends (for one sensor so far). I can't see any other #defines that should be set to enable signing. I get the same result on both the zombie sensor and the unmodded one.

                                      I get three "sign fail" (showing up as verify fail on gw) before the sketch reaches setup(), where the ATSHA gets powered up. I will need to power the ATSHA somewhere in the mysensors library. However, once setup() is reached, the ATSHA seems to handle powering down and up just fine.

                                      I can however say that it the Si7021 doesn't like being powered off and back on again after sleep. That causes the MCU to reset.

                                      AnticimexA 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • ximinezX ximinez

                                        @Anticimex Sensor values are getting through though. And signing is requested on both ends (for one sensor so far). I can't see any other #defines that should be set to enable signing. I get the same result on both the zombie sensor and the unmodded one.

                                        I get three "sign fail" (showing up as verify fail on gw) before the sketch reaches setup(), where the ATSHA gets powered up. I will need to power the ATSHA somewhere in the mysensors library. However, once setup() is reached, the ATSHA seems to handle powering down and up just fine.

                                        I can however say that it the Si7021 doesn't like being powered off and back on again after sleep. That causes the MCU to reset.

                                        AnticimexA Offline
                                        AnticimexA Offline
                                        Anticimex
                                        Contest Winner
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #438

                                        @ximinez Ah, yes, on development branch the signing backend clear the sign flag when it verifies the message. so it will always show as 0 without verbose signing debug enabled.
                                        I know there have been discussions about a "pre setup" to be used for early sketch init. You probably want to power the atsha for early handshaking as well to get the sketch name and such to propagate properly. @hek perhaps has the latest on such features.

                                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

                                        ximinezX 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • AnticimexA Anticimex

                                          @ximinez Ah, yes, on development branch the signing backend clear the sign flag when it verifies the message. so it will always show as 0 without verbose signing debug enabled.
                                          I know there have been discussions about a "pre setup" to be used for early sketch init. You probably want to power the atsha for early handshaking as well to get the sketch name and such to propagate properly. @hek perhaps has the latest on such features.

                                          ximinezX Offline
                                          ximinezX Offline
                                          ximinez
                                          wrote on last edited by ximinez
                                          #439

                                          I've built a nicer-looking serial gateway instead of the rather large ethernet gateway. I thought that would basically be a "slot-in" as long as I personalize the GW it with the same SOFT_HMAC_KEY, SOFT_SERIAL and AES_KEY as the original GW. Are there more steps that need to be taken to get the sensors to connect?

                                          Serial Gateway

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          17

                                          Online

                                          11.7k

                                          Users

                                          11.2k

                                          Topics

                                          113.0k

                                          Posts


                                          Copyright 2019 TBD   |   Forum Guidelines   |   Privacy Policy   |   Terms of Service
                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • MySensors
                                          • OpenHardware.io
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular