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  • blaceyB Offline
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    blacey
    Admin
    wrote on last edited by blacey
    #74

    Status Update - 2015-07-10

    Ok, so here is the latest on our progress to build an IR Blaster v0.5 first prototype/dev board. I have assembled two dev boards that pass the initial smoke test of power regulation, MCU and status LEDs. Through this process, I have identified a number of changes and improvements to the board none of which blocks bringing up a fully functioning IR blaster (at least not yet so keep fingers crossed). I did find one KiCad Gerber bug that shorted the MOSFET gate trace to the upper ground plane but with an Exacto knife and a little elbow grease, I was able to eliminate the short - if you look closely around D10 and the Err LED, you sill see my handy work ;)

    Photo of the twin v0.5 dev boards.

    Left is top-side board #1 and right is bottom-side board #2
    DSC_1097.jpg

    Short video excerpt of the smoke test running (luckily, without smoke)

    And here is a short video clip of the first board passing initial smoke test proving that the power regulation, MCU and status LEDs are working per design.

    IR Blaster v0.5 Smoke Test

    Next steps (dev prototype v0.5)

    • Verify the off-MCU flash and crypto chip electrical and functional integrity by extending the smoke test sketch to run @tbowmo and @patrick SenseBender Micro built-in tests.
    • Verify the NRF24L01+ electrical and functional integrity - solder socket to board and confirm that the radio comes up with MySensors library
    • Verify MySensors full-functionality - load the latest SenseBender Micro sketch and confirm reporting of humidity and temperature. With the proper MySensors library, the sensor Tx, Rx, and Err LEDs should provide send and receive status accordingly.
    • Verify IR LED circuit by soldering 7 IR LEDs to the board and confirming electrical and functional integrity

    Bottom-line, quite a bit of work left to do but no major blockers encountered so far using two initial dev boards.

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    • scalzS Offline
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      scalz
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by scalz
      #75

      So coool, nice board!
      I am making a board (it is another project) and I am like you. just some changes to do. I think we are lucky to pass smoke tests :smile: and just having little changes because human errors are never far away, especially when it is not our field! (not mine, I don't know if you are, but it looks pro)
      So I will cross my fingers with you:wink:
      and of course I will follow your project with interest as I have the same steps to achieve.
      good luck for next steps.

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      • blaceyB Offline
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        blacey
        Admin
        wrote on last edited by
        #76

        First Dev Boards Complete 10-JUL-2015 - status update with video

        I assembled two dev boards yesterday, brought up all subsystems and they are both working great. Still a bit more work to do before they go to production but here are a couple of photos and a demonstration video.

        Assembled dev board w/o radio
        DSC_1131.jpg

        Assembled board w/Radio attached
        DSC_1132.jpg

        Demonstration Video
        https://youtu.be/UXjcwlJOMOI

        I am going to rev the board a bit to pull all components to the top-side to reduce the cost and also subject the boards to the IR Sensor Array testing to tune the IR LED component choice for maximum performance.

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        • G Offline
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          gloob
          wrote on last edited by
          #77

          Any update on the progress. I'm so excited to get one of these blasters.

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          • G Offline
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            gloob
            wrote on last edited by
            #78

            is there any chance of buying some modules? I would like to control my TV-setup with this.

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            • JohnJ Offline
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              John
              Plugin Developer
              wrote on last edited by
              #79

              This thing would be cool to have. In my setup i would really like to test this as a transceiver for my project.

              My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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              • N Offline
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                NotYetRated
                wrote on last edited by
                #80

                Interested in purchasing a few! Would be perfect int he home theater, I think.

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                • blaceyB Offline
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                  blacey
                  Admin
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #81

                  @gloob, @john, @notYetRated and everyone else - Here is an update on IR Blaster project

                  The first dev boards are working well but not as good as they should IMHO. My 0.5 LED circuit design uses a separate voltage-regulated parallel IR LED emitter circuit. After a lot of technical research into the depths of IR Emitters and collaboration with others, I can greatly improve the IR performance by moving to a constant-current (not constant-voltage) serial IR LED emitter circuit. I have been scouring the net for constant current regulators and/or LED drivers that can handle 7 IR LEDs @100ma & 1.6FV and have a few candidates under review for prototyping.

                  I have also been in touch with the AnalysisIR guys to ensure compatibility of our board with their offerings because users have successfully decoded long IR encodings, using the advanced AnalysisIR decoding software, such as HVAC units popular in the EU/UK - for example Panasonic AC and Mitsubishi AC. The goal being that any Analysis IR decodes, will be directly compatible with our board so we can leverage the enthusiasm and prior work of the AnalysisIR community at large. In addition, I would like to advance our board to be able serve as a full spectrum IR decoder to ensure maximum decoding performance when using AnalysisIR on the board. Compatibility requires running the MCU at 16MHz or great to improve the IR mark/space decoding which also requires additional changes to the original circuit design.

                  All of that said, the reason for the recent silence by me has been due to my personal life - I have had a hectic family pursuit requiring multi-month travel from home and work has heated up again.

                  Fear not though, this is an extremely important project for me and I will get it done! While it is taking a bit longer than I had hoped, I firmly believe it will be well worth the wait.

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                  • JohnJ Offline
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                    John
                    Plugin Developer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #82

                    @blacey No problem! As long it is possible to have all the IR codes be able to store on the server i'm very interested ;) Take all the time you need to get it to your requirements

                    My Domotica project: http://www.pidome.org

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                    • blaceyB blacey

                      @gloob, @john, @notYetRated and everyone else - Here is an update on IR Blaster project

                      The first dev boards are working well but not as good as they should IMHO. My 0.5 LED circuit design uses a separate voltage-regulated parallel IR LED emitter circuit. After a lot of technical research into the depths of IR Emitters and collaboration with others, I can greatly improve the IR performance by moving to a constant-current (not constant-voltage) serial IR LED emitter circuit. I have been scouring the net for constant current regulators and/or LED drivers that can handle 7 IR LEDs @100ma & 1.6FV and have a few candidates under review for prototyping.

                      I have also been in touch with the AnalysisIR guys to ensure compatibility of our board with their offerings because users have successfully decoded long IR encodings, using the advanced AnalysisIR decoding software, such as HVAC units popular in the EU/UK - for example Panasonic AC and Mitsubishi AC. The goal being that any Analysis IR decodes, will be directly compatible with our board so we can leverage the enthusiasm and prior work of the AnalysisIR community at large. In addition, I would like to advance our board to be able serve as a full spectrum IR decoder to ensure maximum decoding performance when using AnalysisIR on the board. Compatibility requires running the MCU at 16MHz or great to improve the IR mark/space decoding which also requires additional changes to the original circuit design.

                      All of that said, the reason for the recent silence by me has been due to my personal life - I have had a hectic family pursuit requiring multi-month travel from home and work has heated up again.

                      Fear not though, this is an extremely important project for me and I will get it done! While it is taking a bit longer than I had hoped, I firmly believe it will be well worth the wait.

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                      NotYetRated
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #83

                      @blacey Let me know if I can be of any help. Mostly in the use-case testing area probably, as I am no electrical engineer or software genius. :)

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                      • G Offline
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                        gloob
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                        #84

                        Any update on this project? Do you need any support to finish this PCB?

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                        • blaceyB blacey

                          @gloob, @john, @notYetRated and everyone else - Here is an update on IR Blaster project

                          The first dev boards are working well but not as good as they should IMHO. My 0.5 LED circuit design uses a separate voltage-regulated parallel IR LED emitter circuit. After a lot of technical research into the depths of IR Emitters and collaboration with others, I can greatly improve the IR performance by moving to a constant-current (not constant-voltage) serial IR LED emitter circuit. I have been scouring the net for constant current regulators and/or LED drivers that can handle 7 IR LEDs @100ma & 1.6FV and have a few candidates under review for prototyping.

                          I have also been in touch with the AnalysisIR guys to ensure compatibility of our board with their offerings because users have successfully decoded long IR encodings, using the advanced AnalysisIR decoding software, such as HVAC units popular in the EU/UK - for example Panasonic AC and Mitsubishi AC. The goal being that any Analysis IR decodes, will be directly compatible with our board so we can leverage the enthusiasm and prior work of the AnalysisIR community at large. In addition, I would like to advance our board to be able serve as a full spectrum IR decoder to ensure maximum decoding performance when using AnalysisIR on the board. Compatibility requires running the MCU at 16MHz or great to improve the IR mark/space decoding which also requires additional changes to the original circuit design.

                          All of that said, the reason for the recent silence by me has been due to my personal life - I have had a hectic family pursuit requiring multi-month travel from home and work has heated up again.

                          Fear not though, this is an extremely important project for me and I will get it done! While it is taking a bit longer than I had hoped, I firmly believe it will be well worth the wait.

                          RJ_MakeR Offline
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                          RJ_Make
                          Hero Member
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #85

                          @blacey How is the project progressing? I can't wait to get my hands on this. (even though HomeSeer may not be able to incorporate it yet ;-) )

                          RJ_Make

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                            blacey
                            Admin
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #86

                            Apologies everyone but progress has been much slower than I had planned/wished for two reasons. 1) Work obligations and 2) a special automation from my wife that has usurped my MySensors cycles that required helping the FreeCAD open source project to advance my cause. My plan is to hit IR Blaster hard within the next 4-6 weeks.

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                            • korttomaK Offline
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                              korttoma
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #87

                              @blacey
                              Did you abandon this project? We are heading for darker times again and I was really hoping that your blaster would be available to turn on those candles in the night.

                              Just let me know if you stil have plans to realize this or not so that I know if I should make something for my self on a perfboard or something.

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                              • korttomaK Offline
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                                korttoma
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #88

                                Any news on this?

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                                  hek
                                  Admin
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #89

                                  I know that @scalz have a blaster project going as well

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                                  • korttomaK korttoma

                                    Any news on this?

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                                    blacey
                                    Admin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #90

                                    @korttoma Apologies to you and others; I wouldn't say that I have abandoned this project but it is fair to say that I haven't had the time to devote to this either so it is woefully stalled. @scalz is working on something similar that may fit but bill nicely after which I will decide whether this warrants further development or not.

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                                    • scalzS Offline
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                                      scalz
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by scalz
                                      #91

                                      @korttoma
                                      guys are true :)
                                      I'll order next week my pcb. i'm taking the weekend to think about my design. perhaps will do a dhl :blush: as i have other things to order and i'm an impatient child..
                                      Of course, i'll share my workn and hope to work with @blacey . this will be a Mysensors project ;)

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                                        emc2
                                        Hardware Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #92

                                        @blacey @scalz
                                        I'm thinking of starting to do an IR blaster on my own, any chance to get a glimpse of what you are cooking on your side to either wait / see what kind of function you plan?

                                        On my side I'm thinking of:

                                        • Eventually esp8266 based (probably using a WeMos mini Pro) to allow a wide range of usage even out of MySensors.
                                        • Micro usb powered (using the WeMos' port)
                                        • SMD nrf24L01, eventually RFM too if it fits on the PCB.
                                        • optional ATSHA.
                                        • IR leds on the side (roundish PCB?)
                                        • Optional IR receiver
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                                        • E emc2

                                          @blacey @scalz
                                          I'm thinking of starting to do an IR blaster on my own, any chance to get a glimpse of what you are cooking on your side to either wait / see what kind of function you plan?

                                          On my side I'm thinking of:

                                          • Eventually esp8266 based (probably using a WeMos mini Pro) to allow a wide range of usage even out of MySensors.
                                          • Micro usb powered (using the WeMos' port)
                                          • SMD nrf24L01, eventually RFM too if it fits on the PCB.
                                          • optional ATSHA.
                                          • IR leds on the side (roundish PCB?)
                                          • Optional IR receiver
                                          blaceyB Offline
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                                          blacey
                                          Admin
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #93

                                          @emc2 That pretty much sums up the above sans ESP8266 vs. Atmel 328p... My next iteration, albeit delayed, uses an SMD footprint compatible with both NRF and RFM. I had originally included an Si7021 temperature and humidity sensor but that isn't really necessary. @sparkman had requested a barrel connector to drive external IR LEDs.

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