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  • M moskovskiy82

    Used the air quality script for MQ7 but throwed out all the conversions and calibrations. Just reading the plain input from the analogue pin.
    I targeted this as a smoke detector but it seems this sensor highly depends on the humidity of the surrounding air. Are there any existing formulas to correct for the humidity of the surounding air?

    And on one sensor i have some irratical data as shown below (blue). I wonder if it's a power supply (black and green is DHT) or a broken sensor?
    alt text

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    epierre
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    @moskovskiy82 well looks like a strange sensor... try averaging several samples/// always remember to have it running several days before measuring for there are chemical left from china factories...

    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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      wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
      #162

      Hey all,

      I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

      $ grep MQCalibr *
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
      ....
      AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
      

      Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
      You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

      Thanks in advance!

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      • wreinerW wreiner

        Hey all,

        I've got a question regarding the calibration function in https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino :

        $ grep MQCalibr *
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro0 = MQCalibration(MQ2_SENSOR,10,RL0,SmokeCurve);
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro1 = MQCalibration(MQ6_SENSOR,10,RL1,LPGCurve);
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro2 = MQCalibration(MQ131_SENSOR,10,RL2,O3Curve);
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro3 = MQCalibration(TGS2600_SENSOR,10,RL3,C2H5OH_terCurve);
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro4 = MQCalibration(MQ135_SENSOR,10,RL4,CO_secCurve);
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:  Ro6 = MQCalibration(TGS2602_SENSOR,1,RL6,C7H8Curve);
        ....
        AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino:float MQCalibration(int mq_pin, double ppm, double rl_value,float *pcurve )
        

        Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
        You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

        Thanks in advance!

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        @wreiner said:

        Th function MQCalibration should calibrate the sensor in clean air, the calibration function uses the PPM concentration of the gas in a clean air environment.
        You already use the appropriate value for i.e. CO2 (around 399 PPM) in the MQ135 sketch - but why are you using those obscure values in the calibration (1, 10) here?

        Well, I didn't know the concentration in clean air so I had to put in a value even random... I took the hypothesis there are very few in the air so low value.

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • epierreE epierre

          @tantt2810 said:

          Hi everyone,
          I have an CO2 MG811 sensor. I don't know where tcm pin connect with ?
          Please help me. Thank you so much !!!!

          this is an analogic sensor, so VCC/Gnd to power it, and readings on analogic Aout

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          #164

          @epierre
          Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
          But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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            @epierre

            Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
            What do you think?

            0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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              #166

              I am confused with MiCS 4514 sensor. What I had done is :

              using MiCS quick start evaluation board, measured ADC value
              calculated Vout and from that calculated R0.
              Rs/R0 concentration gives me high value, which is not possible, My data is as follows
              clean air file is used for the purpose of R0 value
              https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseWjhWOHRoYzIxakk/view?usp=sharing
              and Polluted file is used to calculate the actual pollution
              https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8sF8a6FHoseR1BnclhCUHdibEU/view?usp=sharing

              I am confused. Please help me

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              • tantt2810T tantt2810

                @epierre
                Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

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                #167

                @tantt2810 said:

                @epierre
                Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

                do not use the digital pin !!! it only reacts with the potentiometer in on/off mode, so useless... you need to power the device with Vcc/Gnd, and read the output with Aout (A stands for analog). The last one forget it.

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                  @epierre

                  Readings of my MQ135 are going up and down like a yo-yo. Not sure how to read them really?
                  What do you think?

                  0_1457656109114_Screenshot (18).png

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                  epierre
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                  @alexsh1 is that raw ADC output or with a calculation ? normaly this should go up or down but not in sucha drastic way

                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                  • epierreE epierre

                    @alexsh1 is that raw ADC output or with a calculation ? normaly this should go up or down but not in sucha drastic way

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                    #169

                    @epierre

                    This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                    It does not make any sense to me at all.

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                    • epierreE epierre

                      @tantt2810 said:

                      @epierre
                      Thank you. Your mean is Vcc->5V, GND->GND, Dout->Digital pin, Aout->Analog pin. Is it right?
                      But I don't know the tcm pin connect with ? I have read datasheet but I don't find any info about tcm pin. Please help me. Thank you so much !!!

                      do not use the digital pin !!! it only reacts with the potentiometer in on/off mode, so useless... you need to power the device with Vcc/Gnd, and read the output with Aout (A stands for analog). The last one forget it.

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                      #170

                      @epierre
                      Thanks you so much !!! Good job, Good boy =)).

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                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                        @epierre

                        This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                        It does not make any sense to me at all.

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                        @alexsh1 said:

                        @epierre

                        This is a value gw.send(msg.set(MQ135_DEFAULTPPM+(int)ceil(valAIQ))) reported to Domoticz.
                        It does not make any sense to me at all.

                        same for mle, sometime it is good to have two piece to compare their behavior... I have 3 o them ...

                        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                          @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

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                            #173

                            Hello,

                            Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

                            I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

                            Thank you so much !!!

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                              #174

                              For those who are trying to use an MQ135 module from e-bay or other sellers, on a small pcb with a chip, LED and potmeter:
                              It took me a while until I figured out that the little chip has a very big influence on the value that you read on the A-out pin.
                              Only after removing the connection between the A-out pin and the little chip, I got normal measurements.

                              I also replaced the small resistor marked "102" with a 10k resistor, to make measurements more compatible with code that uses a 10k pull down resistor. But that was already a known issue, found on many other places.

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                              • tantt2810T tantt2810

                                Hello,

                                Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

                                I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

                                Thank you so much !!!

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                                epierre
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #175

                                @tantt2810 said:

                                Hello,

                                Can I use pinMode(digitalpin, OUTPUT) to turn off sensor? Or Is there any way to wirte a function that turn off sensor?

                                I want to remote it on web to turn on or off it.

                                Thank you so much !!!

                                well no, powering is through Vcc/GND, so you whould use a switch on this. Digital pins do not gives enough power for such sensors.

                                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                  @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

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                                  epierre
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                                  @alexsh1 said:

                                  @epierre do you think it is a faulty sensor though?

                                  coud be, hard to know without possibility to compare to another one.

                                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                    @epierre

                                    This is what I discovered. When nobody is around the sensor 'settles' on a particular value. However, when there is anyone around in the room, the sensor reading goes up and down - see the snapshot attached. Any idea what the problem may be?

                                    0_1459957501388_Untitled.jpg

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                                      epierre
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                                      #178

                                      @alexsh1 hard to say, could be something moving inside if someone makes vibration around and thus this strange reaction... the down curve at the end is correct, the in between not

                                      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                        #179

                                        Hi,
                                        Can you check the reception level?
                                        I had same behaviour with an old temperature/humidity module; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now :-)

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                                        • E Elfnoir

                                          Hi,
                                          Can you check the reception level?
                                          I had same behaviour with an old temperature/humidity module; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now :-)

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                                          @Elfnoir said:

                                          ; need to move it to another place in the room, and works perfectly now

                                          temp/hum are "less" sensitive on environment, here the sensors heats up to 40-60° (or more) so temp/hum is not the most impacting (I can be wrong anyway ;-)

                                          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                                          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                                          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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