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  • tuimansoT tuimanso

    Your previous message

    Hello,

    I have a question about the MQ-8 sensor module . The potentiometer that is soldered onto the board, is it to control the sensitivity of the LED light or for the sensor itself? According to the datasheet for the sensor, the RL (load resistance) for the sensor should be at minimum 10k Ohm, yet I only see an SMD 102 resistor on the board, which is a 1K Ohm resistor. I have used a multimeter to connect the 5V pin and the AOUT pin, and I get precisely a measurement of about 1K Ohm... Does that mean that I should connect a load resistor to this?

    This value seems very important since it is referenced in the code, the RL is part of the calculations, yet it is already pre-written 10K ohms...

    Please Clarify
    Thanks

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    ysinh
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    #253

    @tuimanso
    There seems a general misunderstanding about how those gas sensors really work: the "heater" must be switched on (5v) and "off"(1.4v) for the air sample going in and out of the sensor, when heating the air sample expands and goes out of the sensor, then in the cool down period the remaining air contracts and sucks in a new sample.
    Those boards with mq... sensors only provide fixed 5v heating, so this can never work reliable
    the 1.4v is needed to keep the sensor on a minimum temperature,example 40'c for the catalyst to react, the 5v will heat it up to example 80'c, to clean the catalyst and air flows out of the sensor
    http://i49.tinypic.com/2rzdqgn.png something like this will work
    Soon I will report my results together with a modified sketch for mysensors 2.0

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    • epierreE epierre

      @alexsh1 said:

      @epierre I started looking at the formula you have used in ppmv calculation. Why do you need ppmv? All values in EPA or Europe are in μg/m3.

      because domoticz only knows ppm... and many AIQ like use only that except for particles.

      1. temp = °C + 273.15
        int temp=273.15 + 22;
        22C - is a typical temp inside though the intention is to use a sensor

      not for me ;-)

      1. The amended ppmv equation is going to be:
        ppmv=(((concentrationPM250.0283168)/100) * ((0.08205temp)/28.97))/1000;
      I have not changed 0.0283168 /100 - not sure that this is. And the whole thing is divided by 1000? why?
      

      was a volume conversion

      The molecular weight is 28.97 for dry air

      2.08 mg/m3 is equivalent to 1.74ppm for a gas with molecular weight=28.97 Pressure=1013.25, Temperature=22C 
      

      Success!

      success for the mysensors value ?

      MySensors: Unknown/Invalid sensor type (43)
      

      Domoticz doesn't recognize this command... I use 1.5.x but I have my own gateway to domoticz

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      bezeefly
      wrote on last edited by
      #254

      @epierre I am working on a dust sensor project using Samyoung DSM501A. I am confused with the identical calculation formula used in the Samyoung DSM501A and Shinyei PPD42NS dust sketch.

      concentration = 1.1pow(ratio,3)-3.8pow(ratio,2)+520*ratio+0.62;

      My understanding is that the formula is based on the specific product's data sheet curve. Is the formula for DSM501A, PPD42NS, or both?

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        epierre
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        wrote on last edited by epierre
        #255

        @bezeefly said:

        Samyoung DSM501A and Shinyei PPD42NS

        This is formula for Shinyei, you're right, I'searched back but don't know if a formula was made out : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/airqualityegg/A1F9padoW10

        strangely here it is used too : http://learn.linksprite.com/arduino/shields/use-dust-sensor-dsm501-with-arduino/

        a formula by Chris Nafis here: https://github.com/OSBSS/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor/blob/master/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor.ino

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • epierreE epierre

          @bezeefly said:

          Samyoung DSM501A and Shinyei PPD42NS

          This is formula for Shinyei, you're right, I'searched back but don't know if a formula was made out : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/airqualityegg/A1F9padoW10

          strangely here it is used too : http://learn.linksprite.com/arduino/shields/use-dust-sensor-dsm501-with-arduino/

          a formula by Chris Nafis here: https://github.com/OSBSS/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor/blob/master/Samyoung_Dust_Sensor.ino

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          #256

          @epierre I obtained the following equation by polynomial fit the low ratio vs particle (pcs/283ml) graph in the DSM501 datasheet.

          concentration = (0.1 * pow(ratio, 2)) + (619 * ratio) + 50;

          Please help to check whether the equation is correct.

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          • bezeeflyB bezeefly

            @epierre I obtained the following equation by polynomial fit the low ratio vs particle (pcs/283ml) graph in the DSM501 datasheet.

            concentration = (0.1 * pow(ratio, 2)) + (619 * ratio) + 50;

            Please help to check whether the equation is correct.

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            epierre
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            wrote on last edited by epierre
            #257

            @bezeefly said:

            @epierre I obtained the following equation by polynomial fit the low ratio vs particle (pcs/283ml) graph in the DSM501 datasheet.

            concentration = (0.1 * pow(ratio, 2)) + (619 * ratio) + 50;

            Please help to check whether the equation is correct.

            looks correct for the red curve

            using http://www.xuru.org/rt/PR.asp with:
            4 2500
            8 5000
            12 7500
            16 10000
            20 12500
            22 15000
            gives =7,613212955POWER(B3;2) + 467,3617082B3 + 631,9862425

            a bit better ;-)

            and on the previous one datasheet http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/744/Seeed_101020012-838657.pdf:
            2 1000
            3.9 2000
            5.8 3000
            7.2 4000
            9 5000
            10 6000
            11.3 7000
            12.6 8000
            y = 19.09464953 x2 + 383.1041412 x + 174.9189116

            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              #258

              Hello,
              I bought the classic MQ sensors (MQ2, MQ4 and MQ135) and I'm building a multisensor node with arduino nano v3:
              @epierre can I use sketch https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino, is it suitable?
              thanks

              Raspberrry PI3 - Domoticz
              ESP8266 GW - MySensors 2.1.1

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              • jumpingJ jumping

                Hello,
                I bought the classic MQ sensors (MQ2, MQ4 and MQ135) and I'm building a multisensor node with arduino nano v3:
                @epierre can I use sketch https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-Multiple_Gas_Sensor1_4.ino, is it suitable?
                thanks

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                epierre
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                wrote on last edited by
                #259

                @jumping you will need to scale down the script obviously, in term of power it will be too short to have more than one.

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • epierreE epierre

                  @jumping you will need to scale down the script obviously, in term of power it will be too short to have more than one.

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                  jumping
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #260

                  @epierre said:

                  @jumping you will need to scale down the script obviously, in term of power it will be too short to have more than one.

                  thanks for your answer! please, can you explain how the following code in your sketch is related to datasheet?

                  • float CO_secCurve[2] = {726.7809737, -4.040111669}; //MQ135

                  I understand the sketch in the "Gas Detection - Example", but not the previous.
                  sorry for my poor english :-)

                  Raspberrry PI3 - Domoticz
                  ESP8266 GW - MySensors 2.1.1

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                    epierre
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                    #261

                    @jumping see just above on power regressin curves, this is the result from a power regression based on the data sheet provided by one maker. Sometime I leave the data points in the sketch, sometime not (based on history ;-)

                    z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                    mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                    • epierreE epierre

                      Air Quality Index is a combination of several sensors values:

                      • sulfur dioxide (SO2) MQ136 / (avoid:2SH12 no datasheet)
                      • nitrogen dioxide (NO2) MiCS-2710 MiCS-2714 MICS-6814
                      • carbon monoxide (CO) MQ-7 MiCS-5525 TGS2442 MICS-6814
                      • ozone (O3) MQ131 MICS-2610 MICS-2614
                      • Particles concentration: PM2.5 and PM10 (SamYoung DSM501, Shinyei_PPD42NS, avoid: Sharp_GP2Y1010AU)

                      Additional gases can be interesting to track:

                      • CO2 MH-Z14

                      Current work being done:

                      • manage default Ro once
                      • take into account humidity
                      • manage to get proper values from TGS2600
                      • possibility to have a push if a value goes up too quick (for deadly gases even without calibration)

                      What is done:

                      • remove powerdown to keep heaters on
                      • add a five minute pre-heat on each startup
                      • removed the powerdown
                      • 2SH12 datasheet doesn't exist

                      WARNING: all sensors differs even within the same reference, a calibration has to be done each time. Do not rely upon a sketch result with deadly gases.

                      Working sketch in 1.4/1.5:

                      • https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/MQv01dgi_1_4.ino (for a Mega, MQ2, MQ6, MQ131, MQ136, MQ138, TGS2600, TGS2602, HCHO, Barometer BMP085, DHT11)
                      • https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/AirQuality-CO-NO2-NH3.ino for MICS-6814
                      • https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/CO2-MH-Z14.ino
                      • https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_SamYoung_DSM501.ino
                      • https://github.com/empierre/arduino/blob/master/DustSensor_Shinyei_PPD42NS.ino
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                      ambuj
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                      #262

                      @epierre Hi I am working on the MQ2 sensor, I want to know CO level. Did you do it before with this sensor?

                      http://www.amazon.in/Butane-Hydrogen-Sensor-Detector-Arduino/dp/B01N0XSQ9J?tag=googinhydr18418-21&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=9d5b3107-037a-4d7b-a8b9-722d0a4bcfea.

                      I am using this module and just start work with this sensor.

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                        #263

                        @epierre is it possible that the lastest github for Samyoung 501a is not correct? Flashed it and the results are way too high (157000 mg/m3)?

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                          surepic
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                          #264

                          Ppm percentage calculations in the code seems wrong. Instead of providing rs/ro ratio to the function is transfered rs value not the ratio.

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                            @epierre Hi I am working on the MQ2 sensor, I want to know CO level. Did you do it before with this sensor?

                            http://www.amazon.in/Butane-Hydrogen-Sensor-Detector-Arduino/dp/B01N0XSQ9J?tag=googinhydr18418-21&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=9d5b3107-037a-4d7b-a8b9-722d0a4bcfea.

                            I am using this module and just start work with this sensor.

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                            epierre
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #265

                            @ambuj please see the begining of the discussion regarding MQ like reliability

                            z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                            rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                            mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                            • Lukács AttilaL Lukács Attila

                              @epierre is it possible that the lastest github for Samyoung 501a is not correct? Flashed it and the results are way too high (157000 mg/m3)?

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                              epierre
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #266

                              @lukács-attila check wiring first, seems there are several sub version around thay may need other values from datasheet

                              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                                Ppm percentage calculations in the code seems wrong. Instead of providing rs/ro ratio to the function is transfered rs value not the ratio.

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                                @surepic Which sensor? Which code? Would you please be more specific?

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                                • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                  @epierre I wonder if you looked at this sensor Figaro TGS8100:

                                  http://www.figarosensor.com/products/entry/tgs8100.html

                                  Looks like it is perfect for a low-powered platform.

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                                  #268

                                  @alexsh1
                                  Hello, I am working recently with tgs8100 sensors, and I am developing a project, I would like to know how it was in the results? How did you acquire them? Any arduino code? Thank you

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                                    #269

                                    @rosmel said in Air Quality Sensor:

                                    tgs8100

                                    That's also quite a non-precise sensor if I understand correctly. Useful for general 'how's the air', but because it will respond to so many different 'polutants' you never know which of those polutant is the culprit.

                                    You will find code in the forum for good CO, CO2 and fine dust sensors.

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                                      rayzyzy
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                                      Hi,
                                      Working with tgs2602 , tgs 2620 and tgs2611 . I've read the replies from top to bottom but haven't understood how
                                      exactly i take data from the graph in datasheet and use it with power regression .

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