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    Vincent TODESCHINI
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    +1 to domoticz full integration plizzzz !!!!

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      ShaK
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      +1 to Domoticz full integration :)

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        #30

        I've commented on the Domiticz feature request:
        http://www.domoticz.com/forum/tracker.php?p=2&t=143

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          bjornhallberg
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          Also, if such a C++ ninja would appear, many would be very, very happy to also see native MQTT support for Domoticz.
          http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=838

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            Also, if such a C++ ninja would appear, many would be very, very happy to also see native MQTT support for Domoticz.
            http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=838

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            @bjornhallberg did you call for a c++ ninja? ;-)

            http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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            • hekH hek

              I've commented on the Domiticz feature request:
              http://www.domoticz.com/forum/tracker.php?p=2&t=143

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              epierre
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              @hek I would say a demi dozen ninjas would be necessary, one for understanding, one for mapping, one for coding, one for testing one for answering people claims and one ... to support the integration of the code... did I miss one ? ;-)

              the internal model is not unified, this is more types built uppon types in several classes, based on evolutions from rfxtrx and then zwave, some are duplications of others (hard coded, no attributes...)... a real headache just on the JSON interface and no testbed/test cases/testmaterial, just full debug with users reporting bugs... doing the Imperihome integration I can say I had a hard time just from outside the code...

              z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
              mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @bjornhallberg did you call for a c++ ninja? ;-)

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                @Yveaux Haha, yeah, but in all honestly I'm not expecting or suggesting anyone here do their work for them. If they had any sense they would have had support for MQTT and such years ago. And an infrastructure in place for user plugins. I'm such a sad sod that I actually subscribe to the RSS feed for Domoticz commits (for a few months now, as I do with many of these HA software) and I can't say I'm often surprised by anything they put into the code.

                On the other hand Domoticz has a lot going for it, including pretty decent graphs that work out of the box. It has blockly. And it has native code. And its JSON API isn't half bad either. I mean, I did try the script by @epierre for a while and I could have settled for hard coding sensor input into Domoticz ... but now I've scrapped the serial gateway due to issues brought up in the other thread and I'm back to either the MQTT or Ethernet gateway so no more Domoticz input. Unless I get a new single-board computer or NUC or whatever to interface with.

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                • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                  @Yveaux Haha, yeah, but in all honestly I'm not expecting or suggesting anyone here do their work for them. If they had any sense they would have had support for MQTT and such years ago. And an infrastructure in place for user plugins. I'm such a sad sod that I actually subscribe to the RSS feed for Domoticz commits (for a few months now, as I do with many of these HA software) and I can't say I'm often surprised by anything they put into the code.

                  On the other hand Domoticz has a lot going for it, including pretty decent graphs that work out of the box. It has blockly. And it has native code. And its JSON API isn't half bad either. I mean, I did try the script by @epierre for a while and I could have settled for hard coding sensor input into Domoticz ... but now I've scrapped the serial gateway due to issues brought up in the other thread and I'm back to either the MQTT or Ethernet gateway so no more Domoticz input. Unless I get a new single-board computer or NUC or whatever to interface with.

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                  @bjornhallberg What do you mean by :

                  but now I've scrapped the serial gateway due to issues brought up in the other thread and I'm back to either the MQTT or Ethernet gateway so no more Domoticz input. Unless I get a new single-board computer or NUC or whatever to interface with.
                  

                  Domoticz is perfect for 433Mhz users supported by the rfxtrx, which is its origin. Here you need to code, flash, wire, power, find a box... not for the faintest of heart... clearly not a plug and play philosophy of Domoticz. This is why I'm wopndering so many people ask for the integration but actually don't report questions on sketches or issues, are there are many...

                  z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                  mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                  • epierreE epierre

                    @bjornhallberg What do you mean by :

                    but now I've scrapped the serial gateway due to issues brought up in the other thread and I'm back to either the MQTT or Ethernet gateway so no more Domoticz input. Unless I get a new single-board computer or NUC or whatever to interface with.
                    

                    Domoticz is perfect for 433Mhz users supported by the rfxtrx, which is its origin. Here you need to code, flash, wire, power, find a box... not for the faintest of heart... clearly not a plug and play philosophy of Domoticz. This is why I'm wopndering so many people ask for the integration but actually don't report questions on sketches or issues, are there are many...

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                    #36

                    @epierre I just meant that I used to have an Arduino Nano + NRF24 PA LNA connected to my Raspberry, but due to some issue or another (I'm not sure) it wouldn't work properly. Perhaps the power draw on the 3.3V. Perhaps the two extra walls between the Raspberry and where I currently have the MQTT gateway. Perhaps interference from some other piece of electronic inside the cramped camera housing. Who knows.

                    Of course moving away from serial gateway means a world of trouble as most controllers and such have plugins made with that gateway in mind. IF I get a new computer to host a serial gateway, it would have to be many, many times faster than the Raspberry and preferably x86. With only slightly higher idle power consumption. Only the latest generation i3 and i5 NUCs match that description.

                    Right now I'm looking into paho-mqtt for python and making a script much like yours that uses the JSON API to update virtual sensors inside Domoticz. I'm almost there I hope. It's not pretty but trying to get some of these other HA solutions to work is like banging your head against a brick wall. At least with Domoticz you have a great deal going for you out of the box. Like graphing which I mentioned above. Seeing all these new and fantastic JS graphing solutions, you sort of get a bit spoiled. Domoticz has some of the best graphs imo, even if that isn't saying much.

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                      @epierre I just meant that I used to have an Arduino Nano + NRF24 PA LNA connected to my Raspberry, but due to some issue or another (I'm not sure) it wouldn't work properly. Perhaps the power draw on the 3.3V. Perhaps the two extra walls between the Raspberry and where I currently have the MQTT gateway. Perhaps interference from some other piece of electronic inside the cramped camera housing. Who knows.

                      Of course moving away from serial gateway means a world of trouble as most controllers and such have plugins made with that gateway in mind. IF I get a new computer to host a serial gateway, it would have to be many, many times faster than the Raspberry and preferably x86. With only slightly higher idle power consumption. Only the latest generation i3 and i5 NUCs match that description.

                      Right now I'm looking into paho-mqtt for python and making a script much like yours that uses the JSON API to update virtual sensors inside Domoticz. I'm almost there I hope. It's not pretty but trying to get some of these other HA solutions to work is like banging your head against a brick wall. At least with Domoticz you have a great deal going for you out of the box. Like graphing which I mentioned above. Seeing all these new and fantastic JS graphing solutions, you sort of get a bit spoiled. Domoticz has some of the best graphs imo, even if that isn't saying much.

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                      @bjornhallberg intel is not the only way... for $50 there is the banana-pi ... I've moved from raspi to a cubie 2 in urgency, latest domoticz updates made it impossible to live on a raspi... with only rfxtrx and JSON updates... the cubie 2 is a bi-core A20 and my cpuload is 10% at worse... in raspi it was 100%... for a better community support the odroid is way faster and better supported (quad core, the samsung S3 ekynos processor just to name it) but is twice the price.

                      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                        #38

                        In the quest for Domoticz full integration, I have been doing some prototyping in Python. Domoticz has very capable JSON support and virtual device types so we can do without "full integration" .
                        My python script is built around a 'dictionary' based Database with a hardcoded MySensor-Domoticz translation. The script is running stable with 20+ sensor/actuators and limited cpu load on raspberry pi (15%).

                        What is next:

                        • dynamic sensor inclusion i.s.o. fixed nodes.
                        • more sensor types and support for combined devices (e.g. Temp, Hum, Baro)
                        • (sqlite i.s.o. python dictionary)

                        dependencies: requests, json

                        anybody interested?

                        You can find the attempt at: Domoticz-MySensors
                        all suggestions welcome..

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                        • AWIA AWI

                          In the quest for Domoticz full integration, I have been doing some prototyping in Python. Domoticz has very capable JSON support and virtual device types so we can do without "full integration" .
                          My python script is built around a 'dictionary' based Database with a hardcoded MySensor-Domoticz translation. The script is running stable with 20+ sensor/actuators and limited cpu load on raspberry pi (15%).

                          What is next:

                          • dynamic sensor inclusion i.s.o. fixed nodes.
                          • more sensor types and support for combined devices (e.g. Temp, Hum, Baro)
                          • (sqlite i.s.o. python dictionary)

                          dependencies: requests, json

                          anybody interested?

                          You can find the attempt at: Domoticz-MySensors
                          all suggestions welcome..

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                          @AWI

                          That would be awesome!

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                          • AWIA AWI

                            In the quest for Domoticz full integration, I have been doing some prototyping in Python. Domoticz has very capable JSON support and virtual device types so we can do without "full integration" .
                            My python script is built around a 'dictionary' based Database with a hardcoded MySensor-Domoticz translation. The script is running stable with 20+ sensor/actuators and limited cpu load on raspberry pi (15%).

                            What is next:

                            • dynamic sensor inclusion i.s.o. fixed nodes.
                            • more sensor types and support for combined devices (e.g. Temp, Hum, Baro)
                            • (sqlite i.s.o. python dictionary)

                            dependencies: requests, json

                            anybody interested?

                            You can find the attempt at: Domoticz-MySensors
                            all suggestions welcome..

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                            andriej
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                            @AWI That would be pretty awesome!
                            If I can help anyhow, just say so.

                            Currently I'm running Domoticz with custom-built gateway on MEGA, but could probably start switching whole thing to MySensors as whole setup use nRF24L01 :-)

                            How can I help? Or is it ready for tests?

                            :-)

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                              @AWI That would be pretty awesome!
                              If I can help anyhow, just say so.

                              Currently I'm running Domoticz with custom-built gateway on MEGA, but could probably start switching whole thing to MySensors as whole setup use nRF24L01 :-)

                              How can I help? Or is it ready for tests?

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                              @andriej It is ready for test. Just edit the your setup in the header and adapt "Sensor_DB" to your setup. Nothing really fancy.

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                              • AWIA AWI

                                @andriej It is ready for test. Just edit the your setup in the header and adapt "Sensor_DB" to your setup. Nothing really fancy.

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                                @AWI I'm after first test and that's what I get just after running the code:

                                # python mysensors-dom.py
                                2015-01-17 02:59:41 Start
                                ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                0;0;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
                                ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                

                                Are these desired messages?
                                What I'm supposed to do later on?

                                :-)

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                                  @AWI I'm after first test and that's what I get just after running the code:

                                  # python mysensors-dom.py
                                  2015-01-17 02:59:41 Start
                                  ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                  ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                  ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                  0;0;3;0;14;Gateway startup complete.
                                  ('Wrong/No input from MySensors gateway', ValueError('No JSON object could be decoded',))
                                  

                                  Are these desired messages?
                                  What I'm supposed to do later on?

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                                  andriej
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                                  I've managed to get it to work.
                                  First issue - since always I've reported temperature and humidity altogether (from DHT sensors).
                                  Currently I can't specify one IDX for two values and I can't see in code where I could put two values to report in Domoticz at once.
                                  They use to be reported in one URL.

                                  :-)

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                                    Good to see you are taking the jump... What you see in the first test is are generic error messages which can be generated in many place. There is a "catch-all" exception handler on the main loop, I suggest you take out the word "ValueError". After that the script will come to a halt and indicate where it went wrong.

                                    I am 'almost' in the next major update. I hope to upload today .

                                    Good luck!

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                                      @AWI

                                      That would be awesome!

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                                      @hek I am almost done with the python -Domoticz "full integration" but strugling with a few message types. The code for Vera is a good source for information but it is hard to determine the role of the controller in the construction/routing of the network. For now I assumed only node numbering and keeping track of the sensors. Is the controller supposed to do something with the relay nodes? what is the function of the I_CHILDREN message?

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                                        Just skip it. It's deprecated and will be removed.

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                                          I've managed to get it to work.
                                          First issue - since always I've reported temperature and humidity altogether (from DHT sensors).
                                          Currently I can't specify one IDX for two values and I can't see in code where I could put two values to report in Domoticz at once.
                                          They use to be reported in one URL.

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                                          @andriej I will be posting a new version tomorrow which adds maximum functionality for Domoticz (from my view): combined sensors (trick), node numbering, inclusion and an external database in JSON. I will keep it running tonight to test the stability. ...

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