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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #320

    @tombstone

    Just to be sure, you have one pro mini with NRF24 working as a gateway, connected to your computer?

    And then you have one (or more) pro minis also with NRF24, acting as nodes?

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    • tombstoneT tombstone

      @tombstone

      //#define MY_NODE_ID 1  // Set this to fix your Radio ID or use Auto
      

      IS there someing I have missed with adding NODES???

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      wrote on last edited by
      #321

      @tombstone said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

      @tombstone

      //#define MY_NODE_ID 1  // Set this to fix your Radio ID or use Auto
      

      IS there someing I have missed with adding NODES???

      yuo need to uncomment that line

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      • gohanG gohan

        @tombstone said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

        @tombstone

        //#define MY_NODE_ID 1  // Set this to fix your Radio ID or use Auto
        

        IS there someing I have missed with adding NODES???

        yuo need to uncomment that line

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        #322

        @gohan

        Only if he won't use auto id assignment from domoticz.

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        • tbowmoT tbowmo

          @tombstone

          Just to be sure, you have one pro mini with NRF24 working as a gateway, connected to your computer?

          And then you have one (or more) pro minis also with NRF24, acting as nodes?

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          wrote on last edited by tombstone
          #323

          @tbowmo
          I habe one pro mini with NRF24 and, connected to my computer. I have done everything from the video up too 22mins were I got stuck.

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          • tbowmoT tbowmo

            @gohan

            Only if he won't use auto id assignment from domoticz.

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            wrote on last edited by tombstone
            #324

            @tbowmo
            Do the debug log. Look normal.. don't know how to read.

            0 MCO:BGN:INIT NODE,CP=RNNNA--,VER=2.1.1
            3 TSM:INIT
            4 TSF:WUR:MS=0
            11 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            13 TSM:FPAR
            15 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            2022 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            2024 TSM:FPAR
            2026 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            4034 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            4036 TSM:FPAR
            4038 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            6046 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            6048 TSM:FPAR
            6050 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            8058 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            8059 TSM:FAIL:CNT=1
            8061 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            18065 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            18067 TSM:INIT
            18074 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            18076 TSM:FPAR
            18078 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            20086 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            20088 TSM:FPAR
            20090 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            22099 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            22102 TSM:FPAR
            22104 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            24112 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            24114 TSM:FPAR
            24116 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            26124 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            26125 TSM:FAIL:CNT=2
            26127 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            36130 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            36132 TSM:INIT
            36140 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            36142 TSM:FPAR
            36144 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            38152 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            38154 TSM:FPAR
            38156 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            40164 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            40166 TSM:FPAR
            40168 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            42176 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            42178 TSM:FPAR
            42180 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            44188 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            44189 TSM:FAIL:CNT=3
            44191 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            54194 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            54196 TSM:INIT
            54203 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            54205 TSM:FPAR
            54207 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            56215 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            56217 TSM:FPAR
            56219 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            58227 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            58229 TSM:FPAR
            58231 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            60239 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            60241 TSM:FPAR
            60243 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            62252 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            62254 TSM:FAIL:CNT=4
            62255 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            72258 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            72260 TSM:INIT
            72267 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            72269 TSM:FPAR
            72271 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            74280 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            74283 TSM:FPAR
            74285 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            76293 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            76295 TSM:FPAR
            76297 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            78305 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            78307 TSM:FPAR
            78309 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            80317 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            80318 TSM:FAIL:CNT=5
            80320 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            90323 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            90326 TSM:INIT
            90333 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            90335 TSM:FPAR
            90337 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            92345 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            92347 TSM:FPAR
            92349 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            94357 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            94359 TSM:FPAR
            94361 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            96369 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            96371 TSM:FPAR
            96373 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            98381 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            98383 TSM:FAIL:CNT=6
            98384 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            108387 TSM:FAIL:RE-INIT
            108389 TSM:INIT
            108396 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
            108398 TSM:FPAR
            108401 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            110408 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            110410 TSM:FPAR
            110413 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            112420 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            112422 TSM:FPAR
            112425 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            114433 !TSM:FPAR:NO REPLY
            114435 TSM:FPAR
            114438 TSF:MSG:SEND,255-255-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
            116445 !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            116447 TSM:FAIL:CNT=7
            116449 TSM:FAIL:PDT
            
            

            there alot of failing

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            • tbowmoT Offline
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              #325

              @tombstone

              It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

              Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

              Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

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              • tbowmoT tbowmo

                @tombstone

                It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

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                wrote on last edited by tombstone
                #326

                @tbowmo
                can you tell me if I got this wrong

                The "brain" is my pro min
                "The radio" is nRF24
                the brain (promiin) get and sends info to the (Radio)
                the controller (my PC that is running Domoticz)" gets and send info to the radio.
                That's how I get it after reading :-(

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                • tbowmoT Offline
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                  But how are the radio connected to your pc then? :) that needs an arduino as well.

                  To have a functional mysensors network, you usually have 2 (or more) arduino compatible boards. One of thar m running SerialGateway (or another suitable sketch) with NRF24 connected. This connect to the computer running domoticz

                  Then you have all the sensor nodes, they are also running on arduino compatible hardware (but separate to the gateway hardware), also with radio connected. THIS is running your sensor sketches, and communicates with the gateway arduino via the NRF24 radios.

                  When the gateway receives messages on the NRF24, it sends these via UART to the computer at which you are running domoticz (or any other suitable controller software).

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                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                    @gohan

                    Only if he won't use auto id assignment from domoticz.

                    gohanG Offline
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                    #328

                    @tbowmo according to the log nothing is assigning any ID :D

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      @tbowmo according to the log nothing is assigning any ID :D

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                      #329

                      @gohan where do you see that? I can't see anything in the log about id assignment.

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                      • gohanG Offline
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                        #330

                        255-255-255-255 isn't it sent when asking for ID?

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          255-255-255-255 isn't it sent when asking for ID?

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                          @gohan yes, but also when asking for parent (as indicated by TSM:FPAR). Id-related messages are indicated by TSM:ID.

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                            #332

                            I feel so stupid thought the first video that Pete made serial gateway was just the wiring your your radio up for the irrigation. 😥

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                            • tbowmoT tbowmo

                              @tombstone

                              It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                              Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                              Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

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                              #333

                              @tbowmo said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

                              It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                              Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                              Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

                              Hi Thomas,

                              You have hit on a point that I see over and over here, and that I shared with @tombstone for a long time before I was able to get a successful MySensors node working. (And I've worked with electronics and tech much of my life.)

                              Understanding the key components and how they fit together is essential for newcomers to MySensors, and is not very complex, but the information is widely scattered and completely missing from the the top level of the website. This discourages newcomers and creates endless questions on the forums as it is quite difficult to get anything working without many hours of reading and experimenting.

                              There is no obvious place on the website that explains the big picture as well as your last message! Newcomers to MySensors do not benefit from a clear simple picture of sensor nodes, gateways, and controllers and how they fit together.

                              • The Getting Started page does not mention controllers at all. And it's NOT as easy as 1, 2, 3!
                              • The Controller page does not describe the basic purpose of a controller, or how it connects to gateways and nodes. It's a useful advanced comparison of controller details, not beginner content.
                              • The Build page mentions some of the key components but again not how they fit together. (Nor is it about 'building'.)
                              • The Hardware doesn't really talk about the hardware.

                              (I'm sure there is much of this elsewhere on the website, but its not easy to find from the obvious links.)

                              It would be hugely helpful if Getting Started was an actual detailed overview of MySensors diagramming examples of complete end-to-end systems.

                              • sensor->arduino+radio node---->arduino+radio gateway->controller (Domoticz etc).
                              • sensor->gateware/node software->ESP8266 wifi->controller (no 'radio')
                              • etc.

                              Gateways are difficult to understand at the beginning as there are so many different ones and the Gateway names don't help...some are named by a single transport protocol (i.e. MQTT) some for an interface (Serial) some for a hardware platform (ESP8266), etc. I'm sure this seems obvious to lifelong engineers/developers but not so much for regular hobby geeks like many hobbyists.

                              I'm impressed with the work that has gone into MySensors and am grateful for all the hard work by the many developers and users who have contributed to it. I don't mean my comments to be a complaint. Presenting technical systems to often less technical newcomer/users is a challenging area. Improving the first impression of the big picture to newcomers would be a huge move forward.

                              Tim

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                              • G Grubstake

                                @tbowmo said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

                                It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                                Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                                Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

                                Hi Thomas,

                                You have hit on a point that I see over and over here, and that I shared with @tombstone for a long time before I was able to get a successful MySensors node working. (And I've worked with electronics and tech much of my life.)

                                Understanding the key components and how they fit together is essential for newcomers to MySensors, and is not very complex, but the information is widely scattered and completely missing from the the top level of the website. This discourages newcomers and creates endless questions on the forums as it is quite difficult to get anything working without many hours of reading and experimenting.

                                There is no obvious place on the website that explains the big picture as well as your last message! Newcomers to MySensors do not benefit from a clear simple picture of sensor nodes, gateways, and controllers and how they fit together.

                                • The Getting Started page does not mention controllers at all. And it's NOT as easy as 1, 2, 3!
                                • The Controller page does not describe the basic purpose of a controller, or how it connects to gateways and nodes. It's a useful advanced comparison of controller details, not beginner content.
                                • The Build page mentions some of the key components but again not how they fit together. (Nor is it about 'building'.)
                                • The Hardware doesn't really talk about the hardware.

                                (I'm sure there is much of this elsewhere on the website, but its not easy to find from the obvious links.)

                                It would be hugely helpful if Getting Started was an actual detailed overview of MySensors diagramming examples of complete end-to-end systems.

                                • sensor->arduino+radio node---->arduino+radio gateway->controller (Domoticz etc).
                                • sensor->gateware/node software->ESP8266 wifi->controller (no 'radio')
                                • etc.

                                Gateways are difficult to understand at the beginning as there are so many different ones and the Gateway names don't help...some are named by a single transport protocol (i.e. MQTT) some for an interface (Serial) some for a hardware platform (ESP8266), etc. I'm sure this seems obvious to lifelong engineers/developers but not so much for regular hobby geeks like many hobbyists.

                                I'm impressed with the work that has gone into MySensors and am grateful for all the hard work by the many developers and users who have contributed to it. I don't mean my comments to be a complaint. Presenting technical systems to often less technical newcomer/users is a challenging area. Improving the first impression of the big picture to newcomers would be a huge move forward.

                                Tim

                                tombstoneT Offline
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                                tombstone
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #334

                                @Grubstake
                                I was think of writing a post or making a video (like Pete) for the beginner's. Just an add-on of his work. Not saying his video are not good just saying I like to make more.... Aftrr I know how everything works. Not off on a good start but I get there.

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                                • G Grubstake

                                  @tbowmo said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

                                  It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                                  Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                                  Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

                                  Hi Thomas,

                                  You have hit on a point that I see over and over here, and that I shared with @tombstone for a long time before I was able to get a successful MySensors node working. (And I've worked with electronics and tech much of my life.)

                                  Understanding the key components and how they fit together is essential for newcomers to MySensors, and is not very complex, but the information is widely scattered and completely missing from the the top level of the website. This discourages newcomers and creates endless questions on the forums as it is quite difficult to get anything working without many hours of reading and experimenting.

                                  There is no obvious place on the website that explains the big picture as well as your last message! Newcomers to MySensors do not benefit from a clear simple picture of sensor nodes, gateways, and controllers and how they fit together.

                                  • The Getting Started page does not mention controllers at all. And it's NOT as easy as 1, 2, 3!
                                  • The Controller page does not describe the basic purpose of a controller, or how it connects to gateways and nodes. It's a useful advanced comparison of controller details, not beginner content.
                                  • The Build page mentions some of the key components but again not how they fit together. (Nor is it about 'building'.)
                                  • The Hardware doesn't really talk about the hardware.

                                  (I'm sure there is much of this elsewhere on the website, but its not easy to find from the obvious links.)

                                  It would be hugely helpful if Getting Started was an actual detailed overview of MySensors diagramming examples of complete end-to-end systems.

                                  • sensor->arduino+radio node---->arduino+radio gateway->controller (Domoticz etc).
                                  • sensor->gateware/node software->ESP8266 wifi->controller (no 'radio')
                                  • etc.

                                  Gateways are difficult to understand at the beginning as there are so many different ones and the Gateway names don't help...some are named by a single transport protocol (i.e. MQTT) some for an interface (Serial) some for a hardware platform (ESP8266), etc. I'm sure this seems obvious to lifelong engineers/developers but not so much for regular hobby geeks like many hobbyists.

                                  I'm impressed with the work that has gone into MySensors and am grateful for all the hard work by the many developers and users who have contributed to it. I don't mean my comments to be a complaint. Presenting technical systems to often less technical newcomer/users is a challenging area. Improving the first impression of the big picture to newcomers would be a huge move forward.

                                  Tim

                                  gohanG Offline
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                                  gohan
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @Grubstake I think you missed the page https://www.mysensors.org/about/network
                                  IMHO mysensors made it "easy" to create a sensors network but it can't teach you the basics of arduino programming, I have already told many newbies that first they need to learn with the tutorials and simple exercises otherwise they would have no idea where to look for problems that they will face. Learning how to debug it's as hard as learning to program and in a complex environment like a sensors network it is very easy to get lost.

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                                  • G Grubstake

                                    @tbowmo said in Irrigation Controller (up to 16 valves with Shift Registers):

                                    It seems that you have not read up on how mysensors works.. The purpose of mysensors is to create wireless sensors. To do this, we normally have a gateway connected to a computer running some kind of controller software.

                                    Then we have sensor nodes that transmit (wireless) sensor data to the gateway which sends this to the controller software.

                                    Again, please read up on how mysensors are designed, find more here https://www.mysensors.org/about

                                    Hi Thomas,

                                    You have hit on a point that I see over and over here, and that I shared with @tombstone for a long time before I was able to get a successful MySensors node working. (And I've worked with electronics and tech much of my life.)

                                    Understanding the key components and how they fit together is essential for newcomers to MySensors, and is not very complex, but the information is widely scattered and completely missing from the the top level of the website. This discourages newcomers and creates endless questions on the forums as it is quite difficult to get anything working without many hours of reading and experimenting.

                                    There is no obvious place on the website that explains the big picture as well as your last message! Newcomers to MySensors do not benefit from a clear simple picture of sensor nodes, gateways, and controllers and how they fit together.

                                    • The Getting Started page does not mention controllers at all. And it's NOT as easy as 1, 2, 3!
                                    • The Controller page does not describe the basic purpose of a controller, or how it connects to gateways and nodes. It's a useful advanced comparison of controller details, not beginner content.
                                    • The Build page mentions some of the key components but again not how they fit together. (Nor is it about 'building'.)
                                    • The Hardware doesn't really talk about the hardware.

                                    (I'm sure there is much of this elsewhere on the website, but its not easy to find from the obvious links.)

                                    It would be hugely helpful if Getting Started was an actual detailed overview of MySensors diagramming examples of complete end-to-end systems.

                                    • sensor->arduino+radio node---->arduino+radio gateway->controller (Domoticz etc).
                                    • sensor->gateware/node software->ESP8266 wifi->controller (no 'radio')
                                    • etc.

                                    Gateways are difficult to understand at the beginning as there are so many different ones and the Gateway names don't help...some are named by a single transport protocol (i.e. MQTT) some for an interface (Serial) some for a hardware platform (ESP8266), etc. I'm sure this seems obvious to lifelong engineers/developers but not so much for regular hobby geeks like many hobbyists.

                                    I'm impressed with the work that has gone into MySensors and am grateful for all the hard work by the many developers and users who have contributed to it. I don't mean my comments to be a complaint. Presenting technical systems to often less technical newcomer/users is a challenging area. Improving the first impression of the big picture to newcomers would be a huge move forward.

                                    Tim

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                                    @Grubstake still may have a pont if there's been overs. Not saying we right or your right. But learning is a difficult thing. So is teaching. That's good that we have lots of open source site and when we get stuck members step ins and give a hand.

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                                      Thanks guys now I understand, felling stupid but it was like a mind blank as was thinking it worked another way.

                                      Can some one point me to the a link (error sending switch command check device/hardware) this comes up when turning on lights on the irrigation controller.

                                      I find this but it didn't makes sense. https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2553/error-sending-switch-command-check-device-hardware

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                                        @tbowmo If I can give an opinion, if we want to reach the newcomers, we must start to think on a integrated solution for burning mcus without programming knowledge. I'm also a software architect and my father caught me on electronics, but this is a public project and will also reach people without knowledge.
                                        NodeManager is a great jump on that direction and now we miss a small utility for computers.
                                        And signing+encryption is a problem here.

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                                          @tbowmo If I can give an opinion, if we want to reach the newcomers, we must start to think on a integrated solution for burning mcus without programming knowledge. I'm also a software architect and my father caught me on electronics, but this is a public project and will also reach people without knowledge.
                                          NodeManager is a great jump on that direction and now we miss a small utility for computers.
                                          And signing+encryption is a problem here.

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                                          @Sergio-Rius why is signing and encryption a problem? We have a simplified option that enables both using a single define. It can't be made simpler than that without making it enabled by default and then with a common PSK which is pointless. Although still only available in beta it will soon be released.
                                          If you find that too complex, I am all ears for improvement suggestions.

                                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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