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110v-230v AC to Mysensors PCB board

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  • TmasterT Offline
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    Tmaster
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    #249

    Secure? ... A varistor and a 8v fuse on secundary line! ...
    Never touch devices when powered to mains. A simple light bulb that you can touch on metal part, a tablet charger that can blow up... just don't touch the module and put it inside wall (not wood) or circuit case.

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    i'm a arduino fan .Even sometimes don't undestanding how to use it :P

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    • A aproxx

      Wow, this thread has been really active in the past few months! I'm sorry for my absence, but I kind of got dragged into other projects.. :)

      A new version of the board will be shared soon! Compared to the current board following changes have been made:

      • A second solid state relay has been added. This 2nd relay is optional, so if only 1 device needs to be controlled just 1 relay needs to be installed and everything will still work fine.
      • The board size has been increased just a little bit to fit this 2nd relay. Size is still 5x5cm only.
      • Some components have been moved in order to make it easier to solder them (This was a bit tricky on version 3.2.3 because some components were really close to each other).
      • Traces between the relays and the connectors are now 'open air'. So there is no mask on top of the traces. This way it is possible to reinforce the traces. By doing this it shouldn't be any problem to connect a 2A load to the board.
      • A temperature cut-off has been added to the board.
      • The varistor for the low voltage circuit has been removed because it's not really needed anymore with all the extra security measures on the high voltage side of the board.

      Currently this board is still on it's way from China, but as soon as I've received this board I'll share all the documentation and everything else which is needed on this forum! This will probably happen in 3-5 weeks from now, so stay tuned! ;)

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      jemish
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      @aproxx
      what is your progress for new version of two relay switch board?

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        @aproxx
        what is your progress for new version of two relay switch board?

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        aproxx
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        @jemish The boards were sent to me from China 5 days ago. I don't have a tracking number available, but usually it takes between 3 and 5 weeks before they reach me (Belgium). I already have all the necessary components, so within a week after I received the boards I'll provide this topic with an update.

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          #252

          Its been a long time since I built one of these but I recall there were some gotchas. I have a bunch of version 2.2.3. Besides the silk screen showing wrong orientation for the regulator what else was there?
          Perhaps @aproxx could update first post?
          Thanks!

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            Hi @shabba.
            I assume you mean version 3.2.3 of the board?
            Besides the silkscreen of the LE33 being the other way around, there are a few other things to keep in mind:

            • The drill holes of the fuse/varistor on the 230v side might be a bit small. So it is advised to either make those holes a bit bigger, or to make the legs of the fuse/varistor a bit thinner using some sandpaper.
            • Make sure to solder the components in the correct order (As mentioned in the Word document, which is part of the ZIP file of the opening post).

            I'll update the first post of this topic in a few weeks, which includes the newer board version that fixes all the problems as stated above.

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              Hi @shabba.
              I assume you mean version 3.2.3 of the board?
              Besides the silkscreen of the LE33 being the other way around, there are a few other things to keep in mind:

              • The drill holes of the fuse/varistor on the 230v side might be a bit small. So it is advised to either make those holes a bit bigger, or to make the legs of the fuse/varistor a bit thinner using some sandpaper.
              • Make sure to solder the components in the correct order (As mentioned in the Word document, which is part of the ZIP file of the opening post).

              I'll update the first post of this topic in a few weeks, which includes the newer board version that fixes all the problems as stated above.

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              shabba
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              @aproxx Thanks - It was a while since I did my last one so wanted to be clear. Looking forward to seeing new one. Great work - appreciated!

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                Ordered the boards... Can't wait!

                Ever thought of implementing ACS 712 ?

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                  jemish
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                  I waiting for new version of two relay switch board.

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                    I waiting for new version of two relay switch board.

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                    aproxx
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                    @jemish
                    Then your wait is almost over! :) I'm currently doing my latest tests on the board, and so far everything works perfectly. I'll try and see if I can post everything during next weekend.

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                      @jemish
                      Then your wait is almost over! :) I'm currently doing my latest tests on the board, and so far everything works perfectly. I'll try and see if I can post everything during next weekend.

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                      Sefi Ninio
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                      @aproxx great news! This is something I look forward to!

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                        Sefi Ninio
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                        #259

                        @aproxx will the second relay be opt-in?
                        I mean, will the board function normally with only one relay?

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                        • Sefi NinioS Sefi Ninio

                          @aproxx will the second relay be opt-in?
                          I mean, will the board function normally with only one relay?

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                          aproxx
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                          @Sefi-Ninio
                          Yes, it will be perfectly possible to just install 1 relay on the board and it will still work fine.
                          More news in the next few days! ;)

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                            bruno
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                            SuperCool!! :smile: :smile: :smile:

                            I have business trip to China in the middle of May, so I can take the PCBs directly from dirtypcbs!

                            Many Thanks for your work!!

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                              aproxx
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                              The latest version of this board is available here!
                              Because of the large number of request a second (optional) solid state relay has been added to the board. Enjoy!

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                                bruno
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                                Thanks!!

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                                  The latest version of this board is available here!
                                  Because of the large number of request a second (optional) solid state relay has been added to the board. Enjoy!

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                                  jemish
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                                  @aproxx Where is the button/ Switch connection pin.

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                                    @aproxx Where is the button/ Switch connection pin.

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                                    @jemish
                                    It's on the middle of the board on the top side. 4 pins are present to use as switch inputs. 2 pins are ground, and then pin 4 and 7 are available as well.
                                    By closing the connection between pin 4 and ground you will switch te status of relay 1. When closing the connection between ground and pin 7 you'll switch the status of relay 2.

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                                      Hi all,

                                      **UPDATE April 17 2016 **
                                      The latest version of this board is available HERE.

                                      After spending a few months on this forum and a few prototypes later, I decided I wanted to build a small but cheap PCB which could be placed in either the wall behind the light switch, or above the lamp.

                                      Besides the boards I've seen on this forum, I wanted these boards to contain a module to go from 230v AC to 5/3.3v DC in order to power an Arduino nano and the NRF module. I eventually ended up with a PCB which is about 4 by 4.5cm. So with all components attached I'm hoping to get in stuffed in a 5x5x3cm plastic printed case.

                                      Modules which I've used to power the board:
                                      [http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-pcs-HLK-PM01-AC-DC-220V-to-5V-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module-Intelligent-Household/32319202093.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.19.8oKfZg

                                      UPDATE: 2015/09/18
                                      As promised, I've got an update for this project. The board has been tested in the past week, and everything is working as expected. Compared to the previous board I've posted, I have updated the following:
                                      • Solder pads of LE33CZ have been placed a little wider apart to avoid short circuit while soldering.
                                      • Solder pads of the resettable fuse (Fuse2) has been placed closer together to better fit the fuses of the BOM.
                                      • Moved the NRF24L01 connector a bit away from the solid state relay. Should make it easier to solder.
                                      • Moved Fuse2 to another location on the board, away from the 230v circuit.

                                      Some 3D pictures (Top and bottom):
                                      Top.png
                                      Bottom.png

                                      Anyone who is interested can order the PCB HERE

                                      Some documentation, complete list of required components and all gerber / DipTrace files (in case you would like to make some modifications) can be found here: MySensors board v3.2.3.zip.

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                                      zebmina
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                                      @aproxx I have a few left-over boards from the earlier release - where the holes for fuse2 were smaller than required (PTC Resettable Fuses 250V 1A TRF250-1000 PPTC Polymeric PTC PolySwitch). I wanted to use up the remaining boards, and wondering if the following fuse could be a substitute (USA-based, leads are smaller diameter and would fit the holes) - MF-R110 FUSE PTC RESETTABLE 1.10A HOLD MF-R110 110 MF.

                                      Thanks for your guidance.

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                                          @Fat-Fly these tiny boards have really bad isolation and are dangerous tu use.
                                          And did you have a look at this 1-diode "rectifier" ? The ripple is probably awful and the result will affect the quality of the radio transmission.
                                          Saving 0.5$ compared to an HLK is really not worth it !

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