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RS485/RS232/Serial transport class for mysensors.org

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    shabba
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    I just started a thread on using sensors without a radio. So this really caught my attention. Would it be possible to modify it to use the USB Serial interface for arduinos that have it?

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      I just started a thread on using sensors without a radio. So this really caught my attention. Would it be possible to modify it to use the USB Serial interface for arduinos that have it?

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      LeoDesigner
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      @shabba I am not quite understood what exactly you want to do with USB. You can use arduino nano without any problems at all.
      All you have to do just to make sure to disconnect your RS485 bus from RX pin during the time when you will upload your sketch/firmware.
      Also it is possible to use this class without any converters at all. See attached simple schematics on github page.
      Regarding USB - you can attach an RS485-USB adapter to this bus as well too.
      So it is an universal solution for a serial communication between many arduinos via serial port. Please note about possibility to connect this bus to RPi directly. ICSC lib include the library for RPi too.
      Also, it's better to disable DEBUG option in mysensors config file to avoid additional traffic on the serial bus.

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        @LeoDesigner Sorry for not being clear. I was looking to connect my Arduino Mega (has about a dozen sensors and relays connected to it) to my existing RPi2 sensors serial gateway (using a UNO). I was hoping I could use a second USB/Serial port on the RPi2 to receive messages from the Mega.

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          @LeoDesigner Sorry for not being clear. I was looking to connect my Arduino Mega (has about a dozen sensors and relays connected to it) to my existing RPi2 sensors serial gateway (using a UNO). I was hoping I could use a second USB/Serial port on the RPi2 to receive messages from the Mega.

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          @shabba Take a look to https://github.com/MajenkoLibraries/ICSC/tree/master/debian
          It may be a starting point for you. You can adopt this part of the ICSC library to your RPi2 setup.

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            LeoDesigner
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            Finally I am received my RS485 modules.
            Here is the working example of gateway with two nodes:

            https://youtu.be/4Ls95PKLwng

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              hek
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              @LeoDesigner

              To test this I ordered a few of these..
              http://www.ebay.com/itm/381374599127?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

              Hope they are the correct model.

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                @LeoDesigner

                To test this I ordered a few of these..
                http://www.ebay.com/itm/381374599127?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                Hope they are the correct model.

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                LeoDesigner
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                @hek
                My modules are from http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-5PCS-LOT-MAX485-module-RS485-module-TTL-turn-RS-485-module-MCU-development-accessories/1718665649.html
                They are the same as yours - based on MAX485.
                However, it is possible to run a simple TTL signal level bus on a short distances.
                (https://github.com/leodesigner/mysensors-serial-transport/blob/master/sch.png)

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                  @hek
                  My modules are from http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-5PCS-LOT-MAX485-module-RS485-module-TTL-turn-RS-485-module-MCU-development-accessories/1718665649.html
                  They are the same as yours - based on MAX485.
                  However, it is possible to run a simple TTL signal level bus on a short distances.
                  (https://github.com/leodesigner/mysensors-serial-transport/blob/master/sch.png)

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                  hek
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                  @LeoDesigner

                  I've incorporated a slimmed down of the RS485 transport layer in this branch (soon to be merged into development):

                  https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors

                  But I've still haven't received my RS485 modules... Do you have time to run a small test?

                  Gateway:
                  https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors/examples/GatewaySerialRS485

                  And a test-motion sensor sketch:
                  https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors/examples/MotionSensorRS485

                  But you could use any example just replacing #define MY_RADIO_RF24 with #define MY_RS485

                  I've used the AltSerial library for RS485 communication so we can cope with dual serial ports on the serial gateway. This library requires using pins documented in sketch.

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                    @LeoDesigner

                    I've incorporated a slimmed down of the RS485 transport layer in this branch (soon to be merged into development):

                    https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors

                    But I've still haven't received my RS485 modules... Do you have time to run a small test?

                    Gateway:
                    https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors/examples/GatewaySerialRS485

                    And a test-motion sensor sketch:
                    https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/tree/serial-transport/libraries/MySensors/examples/MotionSensorRS485

                    But you could use any example just replacing #define MY_RADIO_RF24 with #define MY_RS485

                    I've used the AltSerial library for RS485 communication so we can cope with dual serial ports on the serial gateway. This library requires using pins documented in sketch.

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                    @hek
                    My example boxes are installed right now on the site and doing a daily job :)
                    It will take time to build a new one. I may try a breadboard, but I am still busy to finish additional improvements to mysensors.org project. (I will share them later - it's will be interesting too - I hope :) )

                    Actually, it's easy to test RS485 transport without a RS485 converters - just use a simple schematics I have been talking before.
                    Also, you may want to look to this: https://github.com/MajenkoLibraries/ICSC/pulls
                    It's untested support for SoftwareSerial option for library.
                    With AltSerial we will be forced to use only a documented pins.

                    Anyway - I am glad to contribute a bit to great mysensors community.

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                      hek
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                      Thanks,

                      @LeoDesigner said:

                      With AltSerial we will be forced to use only a documented pins.

                      Yes, I know. But AltSerial can handle higher speeds. I preferred that over the SoftwareSerial flexibility regarding pin selection. Hope I did the right choice ;)

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                        Thanks,

                        @LeoDesigner said:

                        With AltSerial we will be forced to use only a documented pins.

                        Yes, I know. But AltSerial can handle higher speeds. I preferred that over the SoftwareSerial flexibility regarding pin selection. Hope I did the right choice ;)

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                        @hek
                        Speed is one of the reasons why I have decided to use hardware serial. :)
                        But we should be flexible and universal as much as we can. I had been thinking also to add support for over the wire firmware update. As you have done with wireless.

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                          hek
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                          With a new bootloader? Using external flash+DualOptiBoot it should work already.

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                            With a new bootloader? Using external flash+DualOptiBoot it should work already.

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                            LeoDesigner
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                            @hek
                            Sure - but it can be possible done with standard bootloader - we just have to emulate standard Arduino sketch upload process on the gateway side. But I am not sure if it's possible to do with half duplex protocol. Just an idea.

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                              hek
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                              Interesting idea. Looking forward hearing about your results.

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                                @LeoDesigner

                                If using the standard bootloader, wouldn't it break the FW update if one of the other nodes on the bus starts to transmit?

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                                  @LeoDesigner

                                  If using the standard bootloader, wouldn't it break the FW update if one of the other nodes on the bus starts to transmit?

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                                  @tbowmo
                                  Node will listen RS485 bus before it will try to transmit anything (just like Ethernet).
                                  So other nodes will behave yourself :)
                                  But we have another difficulty: standard bootloader know nothing about TX/RX (dePin) management. So, we need to modify it to be able correctly emulate Arduino upload process. Maybe a simple schematics with diode will work in that case.
                                  I am still busy with other improvements.

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                                    TimO
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                                    @hek I've tested your code and can't get it working yet.

                                    I've installed the gateway and a DHT22 sketch on two nanos and connected them directly via D8 and D9.

                                    // Enable RS485 transport layer
                                    #define MY_RS485
                                    
                                    // Set RS485 baud rate to use
                                    #define MY_RS485_BAUD_RATE 9600
                                    
                                    
                                    #include <MySensor.h>
                                    #include <DHT.h>  
                                    
                                    #define INTERRUPT DIGITAL_INPUT_SENSOR-2 // Usually the interrupt = pin -2 (on uno/nano anyway)
                                    #define CHILD_ID_HUM 0
                                    #define CHILD_ID_TEMP 1
                                    #define HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN 3
                                    #define RS485_DE_PIN 4
                                    unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 3000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                                    
                                    // Initialize motion message
                                    DHT dht;
                                    boolean metric = true; 
                                    MyMessage msgHum(CHILD_ID_HUM, V_HUM);
                                    MyMessage msgTemp(CHILD_ID_TEMP, V_TEMP);
                                    
                                    void setup()  
                                    {  
                                      dht.setup(HUMIDITY_SENSOR_DIGITAL_PIN);
                                    }
                                    
                                    void presentation()  {
                                      // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                                      sendSketchInfo("Humidity Sensor", "1.0");
                                    
                                      // Register all sensors to gw (they will be created as child devices)
                                      present(CHILD_ID_HUM, S_HUM);
                                      present(CHILD_ID_TEMP, S_TEMP);
                                    }
                                    
                                    void loop()     
                                    {     
                                      float temperature = dht.getTemperature();
                                      if (isnan(temperature)) {
                                          Serial.println("Failed reading temperature from DHT");
                                      } else  {
                                        send(msgTemp.set(temperature, 1));
                                        Serial.print("T: ");
                                        Serial.println(temperature);
                                      }
                                      
                                      float humidity = dht.getHumidity();
                                      if (isnan(humidity)) {
                                          Serial.println("Failed reading humidity from DHT");
                                      } else {
                                          send(msgHum.set(humidity, 1));
                                          Serial.print("H: ");
                                          Serial.println(humidity);
                                      }
                                      // Sleep until interrupt comes in on motion sensor. Send update every two minute. 
                                      sleep(SLEEP_TIME);
                                    }
                                    

                                    The sketch is working fine according to serial output. But nothing is seen on the gateway.

                                    So, to find out, where there is a problem, I connected my Programmer (mySmartUSB MK3) to D8/D9 of the sensor and I'm able to see that there is output but the chars are not readable so I tried different baudrates than 9600. That didn' help. What I can say is, that the output is generated every 3 seconds, so the ports are right.

                                    To make sure I'm not doing something wrong with the programmer, I connected it to D0/D1 and switched baudrate to 115200 and it shows the serial output as expected.

                                    Any idea where to look next?

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                                      TimO
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                                      So, I've tried to further invest the problem and there is something wrong with _dev.write() in transportSend(). It is too much C-Kungfu for me but there is something wrong with the conversion of data.

                                      • _dev.write("bla") looks good in terminal
                                      • _dev.write(to) throws trash in the terminal
                                      • Serial.println(to) looks good in terminal

                                      Here is the output of the soft-serial:

                                      #���X��z
                                                     �Humidity Sensor��X
                                      ��
                                           �1.0�X��b�X��b�X
                                                                           ��*�������X
                                                                                           ��*�gfB�X
                                                                                                          ��*�������X
                                          ��*�gfB�X
                                                         
                                      

                                      Another thing:

                                      The management of the DE-Pin is missing right?

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                                        hek
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                                        to is a uint_t...so I guess it could generate trash in the terminal when showing the low ASCII values. Guess you'd have to use some other program to view the bytes sent.

                                        Yes, de-pin was stripped away. Would it be useful in your setup?

                                        (thankful for your help out testing it... I need some more time before I can setup a test rig)

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                                          TimO
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                                          Holy crap ...
                                          It was too obvious. :-(

                                          Gateway can't work with this code:
                                          https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/development/libraries/MySensors/examples/GatewaySerialRS485/GatewaySerialRS485.ino

                                          #define MY_DEFAULT_ERR_LED_PIN 7  // Error led pin
                                          #define MY_DEFAULT_RX_LED_PIN  8  // Receive led pin
                                          #define MY_DEFAULT_TX_LED_PIN  9  // the PCB, on board LED
                                          

                                          @hek: Your code works!

                                          The de-pin is set to high if a node wants to send something, otherwise it is set to ground.
                                          I'll try to add that code.

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